Hi I'm experimenting in building a control flow graph of pharo methods and I would like to know if you have ideas about what we can do with them to support our development environment. Stef
I used that in the past on intermediate representations, I feel it is very useful to directly edit the code of methods with large control flows since when you have many closing brackets ] ] ] ] you never know where to write your code. Now it's specific to some use-cases such as algorithms where you write methods with large control flows, in most methods due to object oriented programming convention the control flow is not that big. In this context other things could be possible (Smart suggestions to move code out of loops, etc.) On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:37 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
I'm experimenting in building a control flow graph of pharo methods and I would like to know if you have ideas about what we can do with them to support our development environment.
Stef
-- Clément Béra Pharo consortium engineer https://clementbera.wordpress.com/ Bâtiment B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq
It would be cool to have the graph for a method as a Calypso tool, so you can see them side by side :) On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Clément Bera <bera.clement@gmail.com> wrote:
I used that in the past on intermediate representations, I feel it is very useful to directly edit the code of methods with large control flows since when you have many closing brackets ] ] ] ] you never know where to write your code. Now it's specific to some use-cases such as algorithms where you write methods with large control flows, in most methods due to object oriented programming convention the control flow is not that big. In this context other things could be possible (Smart suggestions to move code out of loops, etc.)
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:37 AM, Stephane Ducasse < stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
I'm experimenting in building a control flow graph of pharo methods and I would like to know if you have ideas about what we can do with them to support our development environment.
Stef
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Tx. I was thinking about x = 3 ifTrue: [^ 66] ifFalse: [^ 88]. ^ 666 kind of analysis. Anyway for now I just continue to do it and we will see On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 2:27 PM, Peter Uhnák <i.uhnak@gmail.com> wrote:
It would be cool to have the graph for a method as a Calypso tool, so you can see them side by side :)
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Clément Bera <bera.clement@gmail.com> wrote:
I used that in the past on intermediate representations, I feel it is very useful to directly edit the code of methods with large control flows since when you have many closing brackets ] ] ] ] you never know where to write your code. Now it's specific to some use-cases such as algorithms where you write methods with large control flows, in most methods due to object oriented programming convention the control flow is not that big. In this context other things could be possible (Smart suggestions to move code out of loops, etc.)
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:37 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
I'm experimenting in building a control flow graph of pharo methods and I would like to know if you have ideas about what we can do with them to support our development environment.
Stef
-- Clément Béra Pharo consortium engineer https://clementbera.wordpress.com/ Bâtiment B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq
Clement this analysis can be done without a control flow no? On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Clément Bera <bera.clement@gmail.com> wrote:
I used that in the past on intermediate representations, I feel it is very useful to directly edit the code of methods with large control flows since when you have many closing brackets ] ] ] ] you never know where to write your code. Now it's specific to some use-cases such as algorithms where you write methods with large control flows, in most methods due to object oriented programming convention the control flow is not that big. In this context other things could be possible (Smart suggestions to move code out of loops, etc.)
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:37 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
I'm experimenting in building a control flow graph of pharo methods and I would like to know if you have ideas about what we can do with them to support our development environment.
Stef
-- Clément Béra Pharo consortium engineer https://clementbera.wordpress.com/ Bâtiment B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq
The control flow is just a visualisation, everything can be done without it, it's just way more convenient to look at. On Feb 24, 2018 09:08, "Stephane Ducasse" <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Clement this analysis can be done without a control flow no?
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Clément Bera <bera.clement@gmail.com> wrote:
I used that in the past on intermediate representations, I feel it is very useful to directly edit the code of methods with large control flows since when you have many closing brackets ] ] ] ] you never know where to write your code. Now it's specific to some use-cases such as algorithms where you write methods with large control flows, in most methods due to object oriented programming convention the control flow is not that big. In this context other things could be possible (Smart suggestions to move code out of loops, etc.)
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:37 AM, Stephane Ducasse < stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
I'm experimenting in building a control flow graph of pharo methods and I would like to know if you have ideas about what we can do with them to support our development environment.
Stef
-- Clément Béra Pharo consortium engineer https://clementbera.wordpress.com/ Bâtiment B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq
What kind of visualization would you have in mind? Doru
On Feb 24, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Clément Bera <bera.clement@gmail.com> wrote:
The control flow is just a visualisation, everything can be done without it, it's just way more convenient to look at.
On Feb 24, 2018 09:08, "Stephane Ducasse" <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote: Clement this analysis can be done without a control flow no?
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Clément Bera <bera.clement@gmail.com> wrote:
I used that in the past on intermediate representations, I feel it is very useful to directly edit the code of methods with large control flows since when you have many closing brackets ] ] ] ] you never know where to write your code. Now it's specific to some use-cases such as algorithms where you write methods with large control flows, in most methods due to object oriented programming convention the control flow is not that big. In this context other things could be possible (Smart suggestions to move code out of loops, etc.)
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:37 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
I'm experimenting in building a control flow graph of pharo methods and I would like to know if you have ideas about what we can do with them to support our development environment.
Stef
-- Clément Béra Pharo consortium engineer https://clementbera.wordpress.com/ Bâtiment B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq
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Yes I know but closing counting closing brackets are easier to do on the AST. Now I imagine that variable reachability is easier with control flow. A control flow is an dedicated abstraction over a program. Now people I met want to use it to support clone detection between different language because this is an abstraction. And I'm curious to see what we can do if we have this kind of trees. stef On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 11:51 AM, Clément Bera <bera.clement@gmail.com> wrote:
The control flow is just a visualisation, everything can be done without it, it's just way more convenient to look at.
On Feb 24, 2018 09:08, "Stephane Ducasse" <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Clement this analysis can be done without a control flow no?
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Clément Bera <bera.clement@gmail.com> wrote:
I used that in the past on intermediate representations, I feel it is very useful to directly edit the code of methods with large control flows since when you have many closing brackets ] ] ] ] you never know where to write your code. Now it's specific to some use-cases such as algorithms where you write methods with large control flows, in most methods due to object oriented programming convention the control flow is not that big. In this context other things could be possible (Smart suggestions to move code out of loops, etc.)
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:37 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
I'm experimenting in building a control flow graph of pharo methods and I would like to know if you have ideas about what we can do with them to support our development environment.
Stef
-- Clément Béra Pharo consortium engineer https://clementbera.wordpress.com/ Bâtiment B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq
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