Any way to avoid the filmification effect in GTInspector?
For example Process allInstances inspect. I am using #40460, and I want to select an item in a list and continue to see the list. I have tried to set the "Number of inspector panes" to 1, but that only shift the selected object sub-window. Hernán
There is no way at the moment. Just out of curiosity, why do you need to select an item if you do not want to see the details? Doru On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:30 AM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
For example
Process allInstances inspect.
I am using #40460, and I want to select an item in a list and continue to see the list.
I have tried to set the "Number of inspector panes" to 1, but that only shift the selected object sub-window.
Hernán
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
2015-01-26 5:54 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>:
There is no way at the moment.
Just out of curiosity, why do you need to select an item if you do not want to see the details?
This is for two reasons 1) I have items with big strings inside and it takes too long to load in the new inspector sub-window. 2) I select the item to send a message to it, or bring a pop-up menu to remove the item (I have implemented it in the old inspector and I would like to port it to Pharo 4) Hernán
Doru
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:30 AM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
For example
Process allInstances inspect.
I am using #40460, and I want to select an item in a list and continue to see the list.
I have tried to set the "Number of inspector panes" to 1, but that only shift the selected object sub-window.
Hernán
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
Hi, On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 5:54 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>:
There is no way at the moment.
Just out of curiosity, why do you need to select an item if you do not want to see the details?
This is for two reasons
1) I have items with big strings inside and it takes too long to load in the new inspector sub-window.
Why should it take too long? Is it because printString is too expensive? In that case, perhaps you might want to make printString cheaper and offer a separate presentation for your object that shows the full contents.
2) I select the item to send a message to it, or bring a pop-up menu to remove the item (I have implemented it in the old inspector and I would like to port it to Pharo 4)
This implies that you actually need a custom presentation. For such a custom presentation you can suppress the propagation of selection. If you tell me your use case in more details I can try to guide you. Cheers, Doru
Hernán
Doru
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:30 AM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
For example
Process allInstances inspect.
I am using #40460, and I want to select an item in a list and continue to see the list.
I have tried to set the "Number of inspector panes" to 1, but that only shift the selected object sub-window.
Hernán
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
2015-01-26 6:25 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>:
Hi,
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 5:54 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>:
There is no way at the moment.
Just out of curiosity, why do you need to select an item if you do not want to see the details?
This is for two reasons
1) I have items with big strings inside and it takes too long to load in the new inspector sub-window.
Why should it take too long? Is it because printString is too expensive? In that case, perhaps you might want to make printString cheaper and offer a separate presentation for your object that shows the full contents.
I don't know, I have this 7.7Mb XML file, opened the Time Profiler with: 'DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.xml' asFileReference contents inspect. it took almost 6 minutes to open the inspector. Here is the link to the file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pzw88gg3wyfkf8o/DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.zi... 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2) I select the item to send a message to it, or bring a pop-up menu to remove the item (I have implemented it in the old inspector and I would like to port it to Pharo 4)
This implies that you actually need a custom presentation. For such a custom presentation you can suppress the propagation of selection. If you tell me your use case in more details I can try to guide you.
My use case is I want to add or remove items from an Inspector/Explorer. The items are classified objects and the user curates false positives. Another item I used to have is "Serialize" the inspector contents (or from a specific item) so that one could import the curated data set and review. Hernán
Hi, On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 6:25 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>:
Hi,
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 5:54 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>:
There is no way at the moment.
Just out of curiosity, why do you need to select an item if you do not want to see the details?
This is for two reasons
1) I have items with big strings inside and it takes too long to load in the new inspector sub-window.
Why should it take too long? Is it because printString is too expensive? In that case, perhaps you might want to make printString cheaper and offer a separate presentation for your object that shows the full contents.
I don't know, I have this 7.7Mb XML file, opened the Time Profiler with:
'DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.xml' asFileReference contents inspect.
it took almost 6 minutes to open the inspector.
Here is the link to the file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pzw88gg3wyfkf8o/DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.zi... Here is the full report
- 350675 tallies, 359630 msec.
Hmm, Something is strange. I open the inspector on the same file in 1192 ms. It takes so long because the first presentation is a text presentation of the contents of that file. What image do you use? Is it possible that you have extra . Could you make it available?
2) I select the item to send a message to it, or bring a pop-up menu to
remove the item (I have implemented it in the old inspector and I would like to port it to Pharo 4)
This implies that you actually need a custom presentation. For such a custom presentation you can suppress the propagation of selection. If you tell me your use case in more details I can try to guide you.
My use case is I want to add or remove items from an Inspector/Explorer. The items are classified objects and the user curates false positives. Another item I used to have is "Serialize" the inspector contents (or from a specific item) so that one could import the curated data set and review.
Do you mean items from collections in general, or items stored as a collection in a specific object? If you mean the latter, you can create a custom presentation just for that object and add all the actions you want. Do you want to give it a try? If yes, let me know the more specific use case and I can help :) Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
2015-01-27 3:41 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>:
Hi,
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 6:25 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>:
Hi,
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 5:54 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>:
There is no way at the moment.
Just out of curiosity, why do you need to select an item if you do not want to see the details?
This is for two reasons
1) I have items with big strings inside and it takes too long to load in the new inspector sub-window.
Why should it take too long? Is it because printString is too expensive? In that case, perhaps you might want to make printString cheaper and offer a separate presentation for your object that shows the full contents.
I don't know, I have this 7.7Mb XML file, opened the Time Profiler with:
'DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.xml' asFileReference contents inspect.
it took almost 6 minutes to open the inspector.
Here is the link to the file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pzw88gg3wyfkf8o/DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.zi... Here is the full report
- 350675 tallies, 359630 msec.
Hmm, Something is strange. I open the inspector on the same file in 1192 ms. It takes so long because the first presentation is a text presentation of the contents of that file. What image do you use? Is it possible that you have extra . Could you make it available?
I am using #40463 in Windows 8.1 x64. This is how I download the image $ wget -O- get.pharo.org/40+vm | bash image link with test file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/57hprg7cyryd9cs/testGT1.zip?dl=0
2) I select the item to send a message to it, or bring a pop-up menu to
remove the item (I have implemented it in the old inspector and I would like to port it to Pharo 4)
This implies that you actually need a custom presentation. For such a custom presentation you can suppress the propagation of selection. If you tell me your use case in more details I can try to guide you.
My use case is I want to add or remove items from an Inspector/Explorer. The items are classified objects and the user curates false positives. Another item I used to have is "Serialize" the inspector contents (or from a specific item) so that one could import the curated data set and review.
Do you mean items from collections in general, or items stored as a collection in a specific object? If you mean the latter, you can create a custom presentation just for that object and add all the actions you want. Do you want to give it a try? If yes, let me know the more specific use case and I can help :)
I would be glad to get some help :) I tried subclassing GTInspector. I see you implemented menu items in GTObjectVariablesBrowser. So question is how could I implement my own "GTObjectVariablesBrowser" and link to GTInspector subclass? Thank you Doru. Hernán
Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
Hi Hernan, GTInspector was built to be extensible without any subclassing :). The GTObjectVariablesBrowser shows the raw view and you probably do not want to mess with that. Rather than that you should create a new tab for your own class. The way you extend it for a specific class is by defining a method like this: MyClass>>gtInspectorCustomListIn: composite <gtInspectorPresentationOrder: 10> composite list title: 'My list' display: [ self list] If you want to see all inspector extensions available in the image take a look at the following post: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/managing-gtinspector-extensions Does it help? Doru On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-27 3:41 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>:
Hi,
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 6:25 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>:
Hi,
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 5:54 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>:
There is no way at the moment.
Just out of curiosity, why do you need to select an item if you do not want to see the details?
This is for two reasons
1) I have items with big strings inside and it takes too long to load in the new inspector sub-window.
Why should it take too long? Is it because printString is too expensive? In that case, perhaps you might want to make printString cheaper and offer a separate presentation for your object that shows the full contents.
I don't know, I have this 7.7Mb XML file, opened the Time Profiler with:
'DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.xml' asFileReference contents inspect.
it took almost 6 minutes to open the inspector.
Here is the link to the file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pzw88gg3wyfkf8o/DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.zi... Here is the full report
- 350675 tallies, 359630 msec.
Hmm, Something is strange. I open the inspector on the same file in 1192 ms. It takes so long because the first presentation is a text presentation of the contents of that file. What image do you use? Is it possible that you have extra . Could you make it available?
I am using #40463 in Windows 8.1 x64. This is how I download the image
$ wget -O- get.pharo.org/40+vm | bash
image link with test file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/57hprg7cyryd9cs/testGT1.zip?dl=0
2) I select the item to send a message to it, or bring a pop-up menu to
remove the item (I have implemented it in the old inspector and I would like to port it to Pharo 4)
This implies that you actually need a custom presentation. For such a custom presentation you can suppress the propagation of selection. If you tell me your use case in more details I can try to guide you.
My use case is I want to add or remove items from an Inspector/Explorer. The items are classified objects and the user curates false positives. Another item I used to have is "Serialize" the inspector contents (or from a specific item) so that one could import the curated data set and review.
Do you mean items from collections in general, or items stored as a collection in a specific object? If you mean the latter, you can create a custom presentation just for that object and add all the actions you want. Do you want to give it a try? If yes, let me know the more specific use case and I can help :)
I would be glad to get some help :) I tried subclassing GTInspector. I see you implemented menu items in GTObjectVariablesBrowser. So question is how could I implement my own "GTObjectVariablesBrowser" and link to GTInspector subclass? Thank you Doru.
Hernán
Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
2015-01-27 5:11 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>:
Hi Hernan,
GTInspector was built to be extensible without any subclassing :).
The GTObjectVariablesBrowser shows the raw view and you probably do not want to mess with that. Rather than that you should create a new tab for your own class.
The way you extend it for a specific class is by defining a method like this:
MyClass>>gtInspectorCustomListIn: composite <gtInspectorPresentationOrder: 10> composite list title: 'My list' display: [ self list]
If you want to see all inspector extensions available in the image take a look at the following post: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/managing-gtinspector-extensions
Nice! So it would be: gtInspectorCustomListIn: composite <gtInspectorPresentationOrder: 10> composite list title: 'My list'; display: [ self container ]; selectionAct: [ self actionForA ] on: $A entitled: 'Menu Item A'; selectionAct: [ self actionForB ] on: $B entitled: 'Menu Item B'. It is possible to remove the "Raw" and "Meta" tabs?
Does it help?
Doru
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-27 3:41 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>:
Hi,
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 6:25 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>:
Hi,
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 5:54 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>:
There is no way at the moment.
Just out of curiosity, why do you need to select an item if you do not want to see the details?
This is for two reasons
1) I have items with big strings inside and it takes too long to load in the new inspector sub-window.
Why should it take too long? Is it because printString is too expensive? In that case, perhaps you might want to make printString cheaper and offer a separate presentation for your object that shows the full contents.
I don't know, I have this 7.7Mb XML file, opened the Time Profiler with:
'DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.xml' asFileReference contents inspect.
it took almost 6 minutes to open the inspector.
Here is the link to the file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pzw88gg3wyfkf8o/DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.zi... Here is the full report
- 350675 tallies, 359630 msec.
Hmm, Something is strange. I open the inspector on the same file in 1192 ms. It takes so long because the first presentation is a text presentation of the contents of that file. What image do you use? Is it possible that you have extra . Could you make it available?
I am using #40463 in Windows 8.1 x64. This is how I download the image
$ wget -O- get.pharo.org/40+vm | bash
image link with test file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/57hprg7cyryd9cs/testGT1.zip?dl=0
Could you (or anyone) reproduce the case? The dropbox upload is vanilla image.
2) I select the item to send a message to it, or bring a pop-up menu to
remove the item (I have implemented it in the old inspector and I would like to port it to Pharo 4)
This implies that you actually need a custom presentation. For such a custom presentation you can suppress the propagation of selection. If you tell me your use case in more details I can try to guide you.
My use case is I want to add or remove items from an Inspector/Explorer. The items are classified objects and the user curates false positives. Another item I used to have is "Serialize" the inspector contents (or from a specific item) so that one could import the curated data set and review.
Do you mean items from collections in general, or items stored as a collection in a specific object? If you mean the latter, you can create a custom presentation just for that object and add all the actions you want. Do you want to give it a try? If yes, let me know the more specific use case and I can help :)
I would be glad to get some help :) I tried subclassing GTInspector. I see you implemented menu items in GTObjectVariablesBrowser. So question is how could I implement my own "GTObjectVariablesBrowser" and link to GTInspector subclass? Thank you Doru.
Hernán
Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
On 28 Jan 2015, at 08:33, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-27 5:11 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: Hi Hernan,
GTInspector was built to be extensible without any subclassing :).
The GTObjectVariablesBrowser shows the raw view and you probably do not want to mess with that. Rather than that you should create a new tab for your own class.
The way you extend it for a specific class is by defining a method like this:
MyClass>>gtInspectorCustomListIn: composite <gtInspectorPresentationOrder: 10> composite list title: 'My list' display: [ self list]
If you want to see all inspector extensions available in the image take a look at the following post: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/managing-gtinspector-extensions
Nice! So it would be:
gtInspectorCustomListIn: composite <gtInspectorPresentationOrder: 10>
composite list title: 'My list'; display: [ self container ]; selectionAct: [ self actionForA ] on: $A entitled: 'Menu Item A'; selectionAct: [ self actionForB ] on: $B entitled: 'Menu Item B'.
It is possible to remove the "Raw" and "Meta" tabs?
Why ? The whole idea is to have multiple views. If you have a homogeneous list on the left and select one tab on the right, moving up and down the list should keep the same tab selected, even if it is not the highest priority one.
Does it help?
Doru
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-27 3:41 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: Hi,
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 6:25 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: Hi,
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 5:54 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: There is no way at the moment.
Just out of curiosity, why do you need to select an item if you do not want to see the details?
This is for two reasons
1) I have items with big strings inside and it takes too long to load in the new inspector sub-window.
Why should it take too long? Is it because printString is too expensive? In that case, perhaps you might want to make printString cheaper and offer a separate presentation for your object that shows the full contents.
I don't know, I have this 7.7Mb XML file, opened the Time Profiler with:
'DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.xml' asFileReference contents inspect.
it took almost 6 minutes to open the inspector.
Here is the link to the file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pzw88gg3wyfkf8o/DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.zi... Here is the full report
- 350675 tallies, 359630 msec.
Hmm, Something is strange. I open the inspector on the same file in 1192 ms. It takes so long because the first presentation is a text presentation of the contents of that file. What image do you use? Is it possible that you have extra . Could you make it available?
I am using #40463 in Windows 8.1 x64. This is how I download the image
$ wget -O- get.pharo.org/40+vm | bash
image link with test file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/57hprg7cyryd9cs/testGT1.zip?dl=0
Could you (or anyone) reproduce the case? The dropbox upload is vanilla image.
2) I select the item to send a message to it, or bring a pop-up menu to remove the item (I have implemented it in the old inspector and I would like to port it to Pharo 4)
This implies that you actually need a custom presentation. For such a custom presentation you can suppress the propagation of selection. If you tell me your use case in more details I can try to guide you.
My use case is I want to add or remove items from an Inspector/Explorer. The items are classified objects and the user curates false positives. Another item I used to have is "Serialize" the inspector contents (or from a specific item) so that one could import the curated data set and review.
Do you mean items from collections in general, or items stored as a collection in a specific object? If you mean the latter, you can create a custom presentation just for that object and add all the actions you want. Do you want to give it a try? If yes, let me know the more specific use case and I can help :)
I would be glad to get some help :) I tried subclassing GTInspector. I see you implemented menu items in GTObjectVariablesBrowser. So question is how could I implement my own "GTObjectVariablesBrowser" and link to GTInspector subclass? Thank you Doru.
Hernán
Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
2015-01-28 5:44 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu>:
On 28 Jan 2015, at 08:33, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-27 5:11 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: Hi Hernan,
GTInspector was built to be extensible without any subclassing :).
The GTObjectVariablesBrowser shows the raw view and you probably do not want to mess with that. Rather than that you should create a new tab for your own class.
The way you extend it for a specific class is by defining a method like this:
MyClass>>gtInspectorCustomListIn: composite <gtInspectorPresentationOrder: 10> composite list title: 'My list' display: [ self list]
If you want to see all inspector extensions available in the image take a look at the following post: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/managing-gtinspector-extensions
Nice! So it would be:
gtInspectorCustomListIn: composite <gtInspectorPresentationOrder: 10>
composite list title: 'My list'; display: [ self container ]; selectionAct: [ self actionForA ] on: $A entitled: 'Menu Item A'; selectionAct: [ self actionForB ] on: $B entitled: 'Menu Item B'.
It is possible to remove the "Raw" and "Meta" tabs?
Why ? The whole idea is to have multiple views.
Even if it were nice one can have multiple views, it would be better no to be forced to have them. As practical reason that would only confuse my users. Beyond that, the inspector doesn't feel flexible enough if one must have multiple views.
If you have a homogeneous list on the left and select one tab on the right, moving up and down the list should keep the same tab selected, even if it is not the highest priority one.
Does it help?
Doru
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Hernán Morales Durand <
hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-27 3:41 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: Hi,
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Hernán Morales Durand <
hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 6:25 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: Hi,
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Hernán Morales Durand <
hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 5:54 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: There is no way at the moment.
Just out of curiosity, why do you need to select an item if you do not
want to see the details?
This is for two reasons
1) I have items with big strings inside and it takes too long to load in
the new inspector sub-window.
Why should it take too long? Is it because printString is too expensive?
In that case, perhaps you might want to make printString cheaper and offer a separate presentation for your object that shows the full contents.
I don't know, I have this 7.7Mb XML file, opened the Time Profiler with:
'DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.xml' asFileReference contents inspect.
it took almost 6 minutes to open the inspector.
Here is the link to the file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pzw88gg3wyfkf8o/DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.zi...
Here is the full report
- 350675 tallies, 359630 msec.
Hmm, Something is strange. I open the inspector on the same file in 1192 ms. It takes so long because the first presentation is a text presentation of the contents of that file. What image do you use? Is it possible that you have extra . Could you make it available?
I am using #40463 in Windows 8.1 x64. This is how I download the image
$ wget -O- get.pharo.org/40+vm | bash
image link with test file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/57hprg7cyryd9cs/testGT1.zip?dl=0
Could you (or anyone) reproduce the case? The dropbox upload is vanilla image.
2) I select the item to send a message to it, or bring a pop-up menu to remove the item (I have implemented it in the old inspector and I would like to port it to Pharo 4)
This implies that you actually need a custom presentation. For such a custom presentation you can suppress the propagation of selection. If you tell me your use case in more details I can try to guide you.
My use case is I want to add or remove items from an Inspector/Explorer. The items are classified objects and the user curates false positives. Another item I used to have is "Serialize" the inspector contents (or from a specific item) so that one could import the curated data set and review.
Do you mean items from collections in general, or items stored as a collection in a specific object? If you mean the latter, you can create a custom presentation just for that object and add all the actions you want. Do you want to give it a try? If yes, let me know the more specific use case and I can help :)
I would be glad to get some help :) I tried subclassing GTInspector. I see you implemented menu items in GTObjectVariablesBrowser. So question is how could I implement my own "GTObjectVariablesBrowser" and link to GTInspector subclass? Thank you Doru.
Hernán
Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
Hi Hernan, A couple of things. First, you do not want to disable Raw for an object because that implies that you will have no option for inspecting that raw state of that object. You are not forced to have multiple views. Only if you want them :). It seems to me that you are trying to overuse the inspector for customers. That is not the intention. The inspector is for developers. However, once you have various presentations for an object, you can put them together in a filtered inspector or even in a complete browser altogether. This is where Glamour kicks in. See here an example: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/creating-custom-browsers-out-of-inspec... Cheers, Doru On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-28 5:44 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu>:
On 28 Jan 2015, at 08:33, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-27 5:11 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: Hi Hernan,
GTInspector was built to be extensible without any subclassing :).
The GTObjectVariablesBrowser shows the raw view and you probably do not want to mess with that. Rather than that you should create a new tab for your own class.
The way you extend it for a specific class is by defining a method like this:
MyClass>>gtInspectorCustomListIn: composite <gtInspectorPresentationOrder: 10> composite list title: 'My list' display: [ self list]
If you want to see all inspector extensions available in the image take a look at the following post: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/managing-gtinspector-extensions
Nice! So it would be:
gtInspectorCustomListIn: composite <gtInspectorPresentationOrder: 10>
composite list title: 'My list'; display: [ self container ]; selectionAct: [ self actionForA ] on: $A entitled: 'Menu Item A'; selectionAct: [ self actionForB ] on: $B entitled: 'Menu Item B'.
It is possible to remove the "Raw" and "Meta" tabs?
Why ? The whole idea is to have multiple views.
Even if it were nice one can have multiple views, it would be better no to be forced to have them. As practical reason that would only confuse my users.
Beyond that, the inspector doesn't feel flexible enough if one must have multiple views.
If you have a homogeneous list on the left and select one tab on the right, moving up and down the list should keep the same tab selected, even if it is not the highest priority one.
Does it help?
Doru
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Hernán Morales Durand <
hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-27 3:41 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: Hi,
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Hernán Morales Durand <
hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 6:25 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: Hi,
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Hernán Morales Durand <
hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 5:54 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: There is no way at the moment.
Just out of curiosity, why do you need to select an item if you do not
want to see the details?
This is for two reasons
1) I have items with big strings inside and it takes too long to load
in the new inspector sub-window.
Why should it take too long? Is it because printString is too
expensive? In that case, perhaps you might want to make printString cheaper and offer a separate presentation for your object that shows the full contents.
I don't know, I have this 7.7Mb XML file, opened the Time Profiler with:
'DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.xml' asFileReference contents inspect.
it took almost 6 minutes to open the inspector.
Here is the link to the file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pzw88gg3wyfkf8o/DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.zi...
Here is the full report
- 350675 tallies, 359630 msec.
Hmm, Something is strange. I open the inspector on the same file in 1192 ms. It takes so long because the first presentation is a text presentation of the contents of that file. What image do you use? Is it possible that you have extra . Could you make it available?
I am using #40463 in Windows 8.1 x64. This is how I download the image
$ wget -O- get.pharo.org/40+vm | bash
image link with test file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/57hprg7cyryd9cs/testGT1.zip?dl=0
Could you (or anyone) reproduce the case? The dropbox upload is vanilla image.
2) I select the item to send a message to it, or bring a pop-up menu to remove the item (I have implemented it in the old inspector and I would like to port it to Pharo 4)
This implies that you actually need a custom presentation. For such a custom presentation you can suppress the propagation of selection. If you tell me your use case in more details I can try to guide you.
My use case is I want to add or remove items from an Inspector/Explorer. The items are classified objects and the user curates false positives. Another item I used to have is "Serialize" the inspector contents (or from a specific item) so that one could import the curated data set and review.
Do you mean items from collections in general, or items stored as a collection in a specific object? If you mean the latter, you can create a custom presentation just for that object and add all the actions you want. Do you want to give it a try? If yes, let me know the more specific use case and I can help :)
I would be glad to get some help :) I tried subclassing GTInspector. I see you implemented menu items in GTObjectVariablesBrowser. So question is how could I implement my own "GTObjectVariablesBrowser" and link to GTInspector subclass? Thank you Doru.
Hernán
Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
Hi Tudor, 2015-01-28 19:36 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>:
Hi Hernan,
A couple of things. First, you do not want to disable Raw for an object because that implies that you will have no option for inspecting that raw state of that object.
You are not forced to have multiple views. Only if you want them :).
It seems to me that you are trying to overuse the inspector for customers. That is not the intention. The inspector is for developers.
I think we finally found the real point. I see Glamour has the potential to become a framework to build final UI's, not only for developers. And I hope one day anyone could build their own view of objects even visually.
However, once you have various presentations for an object, you can put them together in a filtered inspector or even in a complete browser altogether. This is where Glamour kicks in. See here an example:
http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/creating-custom-browsers-out-of-inspec...
Thank you for the link *and* the post, I will check if could suit my needs. Cheers, Hernán Cheers,
Doru
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-28 5:44 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu>:
On 28 Jan 2015, at 08:33, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-27 5:11 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: Hi Hernan,
GTInspector was built to be extensible without any subclassing :).
The GTObjectVariablesBrowser shows the raw view and you probably do not want to mess with that. Rather than that you should create a new tab for your own class.
The way you extend it for a specific class is by defining a method like this:
MyClass>>gtInspectorCustomListIn: composite <gtInspectorPresentationOrder: 10> composite list title: 'My list' display: [ self list]
If you want to see all inspector extensions available in the image take a look at the following post: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/managing-gtinspector-extensions
Nice! So it would be:
gtInspectorCustomListIn: composite <gtInspectorPresentationOrder: 10>
composite list title: 'My list'; display: [ self container ]; selectionAct: [ self actionForA ] on: $A entitled: 'Menu Item A'; selectionAct: [ self actionForB ] on: $B entitled: 'Menu Item B'.
It is possible to remove the "Raw" and "Meta" tabs?
Why ? The whole idea is to have multiple views.
Even if it were nice one can have multiple views, it would be better no to be forced to have them. As practical reason that would only confuse my users.
Beyond that, the inspector doesn't feel flexible enough if one must have multiple views.
If you have a homogeneous list on the left and select one tab on the right, moving up and down the list should keep the same tab selected, even if it is not the highest priority one.
Does it help?
Doru
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Hernán Morales Durand <
hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-27 3:41 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: Hi,
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Hernán Morales Durand <
hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 6:25 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: Hi,
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Hernán Morales Durand <
hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 5:54 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: There is no way at the moment.
Just out of curiosity, why do you need to select an item if you do not
want to see the details?
This is for two reasons
1) I have items with big strings inside and it takes too long to load
in the new inspector sub-window.
Why should it take too long? Is it because printString is too
expensive? In that case, perhaps you might want to make printString cheaper and offer a separate presentation for your object that shows the full contents.
I don't know, I have this 7.7Mb XML file, opened the Time Profiler
with:
'DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.xml' asFileReference contents inspect.
it took almost 6 minutes to open the inspector.
Here is the link to the file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pzw88gg3wyfkf8o/DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.zi...
Here is the full report
- 350675 tallies, 359630 msec.
Hmm, Something is strange. I open the inspector on the same file in 1192 ms. It takes so long because the first presentation is a text presentation of the contents of that file. What image do you use? Is it possible that you have extra . Could you make it available?
I am using #40463 in Windows 8.1 x64. This is how I download the image
$ wget -O- get.pharo.org/40+vm | bash
image link with test file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/57hprg7cyryd9cs/testGT1.zip?dl=0
Could you (or anyone) reproduce the case? The dropbox upload is vanilla image.
2) I select the item to send a message to it, or bring a pop-up menu to remove the item (I have implemented it in the old inspector and I would like to port it to Pharo 4)
This implies that you actually need a custom presentation. For such a custom presentation you can suppress the propagation of selection. If you tell me your use case in more details I can try to guide you.
My use case is I want to add or remove items from an Inspector/Explorer. The items are classified objects and the user curates false positives. Another item I used to have is "Serialize" the inspector contents (or from a specific item) so that one could import the curated data set and review.
Do you mean items from collections in general, or items stored as a collection in a specific object? If you mean the latter, you can create a custom presentation just for that object and add all the actions you want. Do you want to give it a try? If yes, let me know the more specific use case and I can help :)
I would be glad to get some help :) I tried subclassing GTInspector. I see you implemented menu items in GTObjectVariablesBrowser. So question is how could I implement my own "GTObjectVariablesBrowser" and link to GTInspector subclass? Thank you Doru.
Hernán
Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tudor,
2015-01-28 19:36 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>:
Hi Hernan,
A couple of things. First, you do not want to disable Raw for an object because that implies that you will have no option for inspecting that raw state of that object.
You are not forced to have multiple views. Only if you want them :).
It seems to me that you are trying to overuse the inspector for customers. That is not the intention. The inspector is for developers.
I think we finally found the real point. I see Glamour has the potential to become a framework to build final UI's, not only for developers. And I hope one day anyone could build their own view of objects even visually.
yes, but glamour ~= gtinspector glamour is the framework gtinspector is a tool made with glamour (and a tool intended for developers) Esteban
However, once you have various presentations for an object, you can put them together in a filtered inspector or even in a complete browser altogether. This is where Glamour kicks in. See here an example:
http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/creating-custom-browsers-out-of-inspec...
Thank you for the link *and* the post, I will check if could suit my needs.
Cheers,
Hernán
Cheers,
Doru
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-28 5:44 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu>:
On 28 Jan 2015, at 08:33, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-27 5:11 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: Hi Hernan,
GTInspector was built to be extensible without any subclassing :).
The GTObjectVariablesBrowser shows the raw view and you probably do not want to mess with that. Rather than that you should create a new tab for your own class.
The way you extend it for a specific class is by defining a method like this:
MyClass>>gtInspectorCustomListIn: composite <gtInspectorPresentationOrder: 10> composite list title: 'My list' display: [ self list]
If you want to see all inspector extensions available in the image take a look at the following post: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/managing-gtinspector-extensions
Nice! So it would be:
gtInspectorCustomListIn: composite <gtInspectorPresentationOrder: 10>
composite list title: 'My list'; display: [ self container ]; selectionAct: [ self actionForA ] on: $A entitled: 'Menu Item A'; selectionAct: [ self actionForB ] on: $B entitled: 'Menu Item B'.
It is possible to remove the "Raw" and "Meta" tabs?
Why ? The whole idea is to have multiple views.
Even if it were nice one can have multiple views, it would be better no to be forced to have them. As practical reason that would only confuse my users.
Beyond that, the inspector doesn't feel flexible enough if one must have multiple views.
If you have a homogeneous list on the left and select one tab on the right, moving up and down the list should keep the same tab selected, even if it is not the highest priority one.
Does it help?
Doru
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Hernán Morales Durand <
hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-27 3:41 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: Hi,
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Hernán Morales Durand <
hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 6:25 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: Hi,
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Hernán Morales Durand <
hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-01-26 5:54 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com>: There is no way at the moment.
Just out of curiosity, why do you need to select an item if you do
not want to see the details?
This is for two reasons
1) I have items with big strings inside and it takes too long to load
in the new inspector sub-window.
Why should it take too long? Is it because printString is too
expensive? In that case, perhaps you might want to make printString cheaper and offer a separate presentation for your object that shows the full contents.
I don't know, I have this 7.7Mb XML file, opened the Time Profiler
with:
'DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.xml' asFileReference contents
inspect.
it took almost 6 minutes to open the inspector.
Here is the link to the file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pzw88gg3wyfkf8o/DLoop_Bovino_31-10-14-Alignment.zi...
Here is the full report
- 350675 tallies, 359630 msec.
Hmm, Something is strange. I open the inspector on the same file in 1192 ms. It takes so long because the first presentation is a text presentation of the contents of that file. What image do you use? Is it possible that you have extra . Could you make it available?
I am using #40463 in Windows 8.1 x64. This is how I download the image
$ wget -O- get.pharo.org/40+vm | bash
image link with test file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/57hprg7cyryd9cs/testGT1.zip?dl=0
Could you (or anyone) reproduce the case? The dropbox upload is vanilla image.
2) I select the item to send a message to it, or bring a pop-up menu to remove the item (I have implemented it in the old inspector and I would like to port it to Pharo 4)
This implies that you actually need a custom presentation. For such a custom presentation you can suppress the propagation of selection. If you tell me your use case in more details I can try to guide you.
My use case is I want to add or remove items from an Inspector/Explorer. The items are classified objects and the user curates false positives. Another item I used to have is "Serialize" the inspector contents (or from a specific item) so that one could import the curated data set and review.
Do you mean items from collections in general, or items stored as a collection in a specific object? If you mean the latter, you can create a custom presentation just for that object and add all the actions you want. Do you want to give it a try? If yes, let me know the more specific use case and I can help :)
I would be glad to get some help :) I tried subclassing GTInspector. I see you implemented menu items in GTObjectVariablesBrowser. So question is how could I implement my own "GTObjectVariablesBrowser" and link to GTInspector subclass? Thank you Doru.
Hernán
Doru
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