[Pharo-project] Global Apology
Dear Pharo mailinglist, I would like to apologize for the rather unfriendly and loud mail I sent in response to a bugfix proposal by Igor on the mailing list. Luckily I listened to Esteban to prevent further damage. However my intervention was rude and inappropriate. You experienced an unnecessary presentation of an internal discussion that is not solved yet. Discussing and presenting it in public is counter productive and insulting. I wish to get my ongoing disagreement with Igor settled the following week to get us back into a productive and friendly environment. camillo bruni
Thanks camillo Your email is great! And I found mysefl in similar situation so I can tell you that "tu en sors grandi" :)
I would like to apologize for the rather unfriendly and loud mail I sent in response to a bugfix proposal by Igor on the mailing list.
Luckily I listened to Esteban to prevent further damage. However my intervention was rude and inappropriate.
You experienced an unnecessary presentation of an internal discussion that is not solved yet. Discussing and presenting it in public is counter productive and insulting.
I wish to get my ongoing disagreement with Igor settled the following week to get us back into a productive and friendly environment.
I'm sure you will but you have to discuss and communicate you two :) I'm convinced you have great things to achieve and I understand your frustration :) Just close the door and discuss :)
camillo bruni
Camillo Bruni-3 wrote
I would like to apologize for the rather unfriendly and loud mail I sent in response to a bugfix proposal by Igor on the mailing list.
I believe in acting decisively and error correcting quickly. Thank you for both the passion you bring and for getting us back on track :) ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Global-Apology-tp4680000p4680011.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
No problem. Alexandre On Apr 6, 2013, at 3:13 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Pharo mailinglist,
I would like to apologize for the rather unfriendly and loud mail I sent in response to a bugfix proposal by Igor on the mailing list.
Luckily I listened to Esteban to prevent further damage. However my intervention was rude and inappropriate.
You experienced an unnecessary presentation of an internal discussion that is not solved yet. Discussing and presenting it in public is counter productive and insulting.
I wish to get my ongoing disagreement with Igor settled the following week to get us back into a productive and friendly environment.
camillo bruni
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Who know maybe you and Igor turn out to be best friends. I had a physical fight with my best friend and we have been unseparable ever since for 19 years now and till this day he has the art of annoying me deeply :D But there is more to people that meets the eye, a lot more. Afterall we are humans not robots , flawed yet perfect :D -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Global-Apology-tp4680000p4680210.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
This is an intellectual difference of opinion and the emotions involved only show how much Pharo is involving people, deep inside, in its run up to an enterprise worthy platform. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:25 PM, kilon <thekilon@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Who know maybe you and Igor turn out to be best friends. I had a physical fight with my best friend and we have been unseparable ever since for 19 years now and till this day he has the art of annoying me deeply :D But there is more to people that meets the eye, a lot more.
Afterall we are humans not robots , flawed yet perfect :D
-- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Global-Apology-tp4680000p4680210.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
<arrogant tone> Apologies accepted </arrogant tone> Real tone: First, i must say Camillo has reasons to be frustrated. And my reaction was not the best one as well. So, please take my apologies, list and especially Camillo. I must to say that Camillo is a great guy, and it is pure luck that i am working together with such a person. And i am not exaggerating by a tiny bit: I spent years working in different companies, or working alone and it is very frustrating when you have nobody who could understand you or can share ideas with and discuss them. Nobody who can help you, or point on your mistakes. Being alone is a curse. It is great pleasure when you can explain things with just a few words, when our vision is aligned and when you don't need to educate person, before you can even try to present new ideas to him. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.
participants (7)
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Alexandre Bergel -
Camillo Bruni -
Igor Stasenko -
kilon -
S Krish -
Sean P. DeNigris -
Stéphane Ducasse