[Pharo-project] Scripting with Pharo?
Is it possible to start Pharo headless and execute some command (say to get some info from a web page)?
What about coral? http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral 2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>
Is it possible to start Pharo headless and execute some command (say to get some info from a web page)?
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unfortunately I did not find the time to continue working on it but I would love to. On May 12, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Gabriel Brunstein wrote:
What about coral? http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Is it possible to start Pharo headless and execute some command (say to get some info from a web page)?
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I think that scripting support is essential for any interpreted language and if Pharo had it, its community would grow much faster. Let's say, I learned now how to use HTML parsing in the GUI version of Pharo. I went ahead and created my own class (or set of classes) in the image which can say retrieve a dollar rate from some bank web page. Now I should be able to run Pharo in a "batch mode" saying something like... "./pharo -batch "DollarRateInfo :getAndSendEmail 'myaddress@domain.com". This way I could schedule this command using cron to send me this dollar rate via email every day at 2 pm. Having this functionality I could really spend more time using Pharo for different needs and get better at using it. I don't think it should be too hard to implement (please correct me if I am wrong). In the batch mode pharo would start in a "headless mode", read some input from a standard input (or from command line), execute it in a 'hidden' Workspace and send the output of the evaluation to the standard output. Thank you, Andrei On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:
unfortunately I did not find the time to continue working on it but I would love to.
On May 12, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Gabriel Brunstein wrote:
What about coral? http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Is it possible to start Pharo headless and execute some command (say to get some info from a web page)?
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its a bit heawyweight to use VM as command-line tool. you could, intead run pharo in persistent mode, and schedule the same piece of code to run periodically as background process in it. 2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>:
I think that scripting support is essential for any interpreted language and if Pharo had it, its community would grow much faster. Let's say, I learned now how to use HTML parsing in the GUI version of Pharo. I went ahead and created my own class (or set of classes) in the image which can say retrieve a dollar rate from some bank web page. Now I should be able to run Pharo in a "batch mode" saying something like... "./pharo -batch "DollarRateInfo :getAndSendEmail 'myaddress@domain.com". This way I could schedule this command using cron to send me this dollar rate via email every day at 2 pm. Having this functionality I could really spend more time using Pharo for different needs and get better at using it.
I don't think it should be too hard to implement (please correct me if I am wrong). In the batch mode pharo would start in a "headless mode", read some input from a standard input (or from command line), execute it in a 'hidden' Workspace and send the output of the evaluation to the standard output.
Thank you, Andrei
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
unfortunately I did not find the time to continue working on it but I would love to.
On May 12, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Gabriel Brunstein wrote:
What about coral? http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Is it possible to start Pharo headless and execute some command (say to get some info from a web page)?
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Could you please give me an example of that usage? On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua@gmail.com> wrote:
its a bit heawyweight to use VM as command-line tool. you could, intead run pharo in persistent mode, and schedule the same piece of code to run periodically as background process in it.
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>:
I think that scripting support is essential for any interpreted language and if Pharo had it, its community would grow much faster. Let's say, I learned now how to use HTML parsing in the GUI version of Pharo. I went ahead and created my own class (or set of classes) in the image which can say retrieve a dollar rate from some bank web page. Now I should be able to run Pharo in a "batch mode" saying something like... "./pharo -batch "DollarRateInfo :getAndSendEmail 'myaddress@domain.com". This way I could schedule this command using cron to send me this dollar rate via email every day at 2 pm. Having this functionality I could really spend more time using Pharo for different needs and get better at using it.
I don't think it should be too hard to implement (please correct me if I am wrong). In the batch mode pharo would start in a "headless mode", read some input from a standard input (or from command line), execute it in a 'hidden' Workspace and send the output of the evaluation to the standard output.
Thank you, Andrei
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
unfortunately I did not find the time to continue working on it but I would love to.
On May 12, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Gabriel Brunstein wrote:
What about coral? http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Is it possible to start Pharo headless and execute some command (say
to
get some info from a web page)?
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Something like that: process := [ [ [ | now when | now := Time now. when := 1 hour + 24 minutes. "past midnight" now = when ] whileFalse: [ 30 seconds asDelay wait ]. ... do your stuff here ..... 2 minutes asDelay wait. "make sure we're not repeat the same thing within same day" ] repeat ] newProcess. process name: 'My periodic stuff'. process resume 2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>:
Could you please give me an example of that usage?
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua@gmail.com> wrote:
its a bit heawyweight to use VM as command-line tool. you could, intead run pharo in persistent mode, and schedule the same piece of code to run periodically as background process in it.
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>:
I think that scripting support is essential for any interpreted language and if Pharo had it, its community would grow much faster. Let's say, I learned now how to use HTML parsing in the GUI version of Pharo. I went ahead and created my own class (or set of classes) in the image which can say retrieve a dollar rate from some bank web page. Now I should be able to run Pharo in a "batch mode" saying something like... "./pharo -batch "DollarRateInfo :getAndSendEmail 'myaddress@domain.com". This way I could schedule this command using cron to send me this dollar rate via email every day at 2 pm. Having this functionality I could really spend more time using Pharo for different needs and get better at using it.
I don't think it should be too hard to implement (please correct me if I am wrong). In the batch mode pharo would start in a "headless mode", read some input from a standard input (or from command line), execute it in a 'hidden' Workspace and send the output of the evaluation to the standard output.
Thank you, Andrei
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
unfortunately I did not find the time to continue working on it but I would love to.
On May 12, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Gabriel Brunstein wrote:
What about coral? http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Is it possible to start Pharo headless and execute some command (say to get some info from a web page)?
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Thanks! On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua@gmail.com> wrote:
Something like that:
process := [
[ [ | now when | now := Time now. when := 1 hour + 24 minutes. "past midnight" now = when ] whileFalse: [ 30 seconds asDelay wait ].
... do your stuff here .....
2 minutes asDelay wait. "make sure we're not repeat the same thing within same day" ] repeat
] newProcess.
process name: 'My periodic stuff'. process resume
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>:
Could you please give me an example of that usage?
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua@gmail.com> wrote:
its a bit heawyweight to use VM as command-line tool. you could, intead run pharo in persistent mode, and schedule the same piece of code to run periodically as background process in it.
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>:
I think that scripting support is essential for any interpreted
language
and if Pharo had it, its community would grow much faster. Let's say, I learned now how to use HTML parsing in the GUI version of Pharo. I went ahead and created my own class (or set of classes) in the image which can say retrieve a dollar rate from some bank web page. Now I should be able to run Pharo in a "batch mode" saying something like... "./pharo -batch "DollarRateInfo :getAndSendEmail ' myaddress@domain.com". This way I could schedule this command using cron to send me this dollar rate via email every day at 2 pm. Having this functionality I could really spend more time using Pharo for different needs and get better at using it.
I don't think it should be too hard to implement (please correct me if I am wrong). In the batch mode pharo would start in a "headless mode", read some input from a standard input (or from command line), execute it in a 'hidden' Workspace and send the output of the evaluation to the standard output.
Thank you, Andrei
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
unfortunately I did not find the time to continue working on it but I would love to.
On May 12, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Gabriel Brunstein wrote:
What about coral? http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Is it possible to start Pharo headless and execute some command
(say
to get some info from a web page)?
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Sorry, that was not working code.. just to illustrate.. Here is working example (i hope) process := [ [ | now when | now := Time now asDuration. when := 0 hours + 30 minutes. when < now ifTrue: [ when := when + 24 hours ]. (Delay forDuration: when - now) wait. ... do your stuff here ... ] repeat. ] newProcess. process name: 'My periodic stuff'. process resume On 13 May 2010 00:38, Igor Stasenko <siguctua@gmail.com> wrote:
Something like that:
process := [
[ [   | now when |   now := Time now.   when := 1 hour + 24 minutes.  "past midnight"   now = when  ] whileFalse: [ 30 seconds asDelay wait ].
 ... do your stuff here .....
 2 minutes asDelay wait. "make sure we're not repeat the same thing within same day" ] repeat
] Â newProcess.
process name: 'My periodic stuff'. process resume
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>:
Could you please give me an example of that usage?
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua@gmail.com> wrote:
its a bit heawyweight to use VM as command-line tool. you could, intead run pharo in persistent mode, and schedule the same piece of code to run periodically as background process in it.
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>:
I think that scripting support is essential for any interpreted language and if Pharo had it, its community would grow much faster. Let's say, I learned now how to use HTML parsing in the GUI version of Pharo. I went ahead and created my own class (or set of classes) in the image which can say retrieve a dollar rate from some bank web page. Now I should be able to run Pharo in a "batch mode" saying something like... "./pharo -batch "DollarRateInfo :getAndSendEmail 'myaddress@domain.com". This way I could schedule this command using cron to send me this dollar rate via email every day at 2 pm. Having this functionality I could really spend more time using Pharo for different needs and get better at using it.
I don't think it should be too hard to implement (please correct me if I am wrong). In the batch mode pharo would start in a "headless mode", read some input from a standard input (or from command line), execute it in a 'hidden' Workspace and send the output of the evaluation to the standard output.
Thank you, Andrei
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
unfortunately I did not find the time to continue working on it but I would love to.
On May 12, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Gabriel Brunstein wrote:
What about coral? http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Is it possible to start Pharo headless and execute some command (say to get some info from a web page)?
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Thank you, I'll give it a try. See, maybe my philosophy is wrong, but I'd rather get better at one tool (where it's possible) than learn multiple different tools to do similar tasks. I think Pharo has a potential to be if not a Swiss army knife like Python, but a very useful language for any programming tasks (scripting is one of them). So far, as a newbie, I like what I see in Pharo and having a blast learning it. I am so thrilled, that just a thought that it could do scripting sends shivers down my spine :) 2010/5/12 Gabriel Brunstein <gaboto@gmail.com>
What about coral? http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>
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As I read there, Coral IS A PACKAGE FOR PHARO! so you would not be using another tool. I don't know which is the state of Coral, if it works or not (based on the previous mail of Stephane) 2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>
Thank you, I'll give it a try. See, maybe my philosophy is wrong, but I'd rather get better at one tool (where it's possible) than learn multiple different tools to do similar tasks. I think Pharo has a potential to be if not a Swiss army knife like Python, but a very useful language for any programming tasks (scripting is one of them). So far, as a newbie, I like what I see in Pharo and having a blast learning it. I am so thrilled, that just a thought that it could do scripting sends shivers down my spine :)
2010/5/12 Gabriel Brunstein <gaboto@gmail.com>
What about coral?
http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>
Is it possible to start Pharo headless and execute some command (say to get some info from a web page)?
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Right, I just didn't get it on the first read... 2010/5/12 Gabriel Brunstein <gaboto@gmail.com>
As I read there, Coral IS A PACKAGE FOR PHARO! so you would not be using another tool. I don't know which is the state of Coral, if it works or not (based on the previous mail of Stephane)
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>
Thank you, I'll give it a try. See, maybe my philosophy is wrong, but I'd rather get better at one tool (where it's possible) than learn multiple different tools to do similar tasks. I think Pharo has a potential to be if not a Swiss army knife like Python, but a very useful language for any programming tasks (scripting is one of them). So far, as a newbie, I like what I see in Pharo and having a blast learning it. I am so thrilled, that just a thought that it could do scripting sends shivers down my spine :)
2010/5/12 Gabriel Brunstein <gaboto@gmail.com>
What about coral?
http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>
Is it possible to start Pharo headless and execute some command (say to get some info from a web page)?
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It seems the wiki is outdated. Please try this to install it: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Coral'; package: 'LoadCoral'; load. (Smalltalk at: #CoralLoader) load. DISCLAIMER: I have no idea of it is working or not. It just load. And I am not even sure if loads completely correct Cheers mariano 2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>
Right, I just didn't get it on the first read...
2010/5/12 Gabriel Brunstein <gaboto@gmail.com>
As I read there, Coral IS A PACKAGE FOR PHARO! so you would not be using another tool. I don't know which is the state of Coral, if it works or not (based on the previous mail of Stephane)
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>
Thank you, I'll give it a try. See, maybe my philosophy is wrong, but I'd rather get better at one tool (where it's possible) than learn multiple different tools to do similar tasks. I think Pharo has a potential to be if not a Swiss army knife like Python, but a very useful language for any programming tasks (scripting is one of them). So far, as a newbie, I like what I see in Pharo and having a blast learning it. I am so thrilled, that just a thought that it could do scripting sends shivers down my spine :)
2010/5/12 Gabriel Brunstein <gaboto@gmail.com>
What about coral?
http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>
Is it possible to start Pharo headless and execute some command (say to get some info from a web page)?
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Installation worked well. Something is still missing (docs for sure!) when I type "OSProcess thisOSProcess" and evaluate/print it it says "a WindowsProcess with pid nil". 2010/5/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>
It seems the wiki is outdated. Please try this to install it:
Gofer new squeaksource: 'Coral'; package: 'LoadCoral'; load.
(Smalltalk at: #CoralLoader) load.
DISCLAIMER: I have no idea of it is working or not. It just load. And I am not even sure if loads completely correct
Cheers
mariano
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>
Right, I just didn't get it on the first read...
2010/5/12 Gabriel Brunstein <gaboto@gmail.com>
As I read there, Coral IS A PACKAGE FOR PHARO! so you would not be using another tool. I don't know which is the state of Coral, if it works or not (based on the previous mail of Stephane)
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>
Thank you, I'll give it a try. See, maybe my philosophy is wrong, but I'd rather get better at one tool (where it's possible) than learn multiple different tools to do similar tasks. I think Pharo has a potential to be if not a Swiss army knife like Python, but a very useful language for any programming tasks (scripting is one of them). So far, as a newbie, I like what I see in Pharo and having a blast learning it. I am so thrilled, that just a thought that it could do scripting sends shivers down my spine :)
2010/5/12 Gabriel Brunstein <gaboto@gmail.com>
What about coral?
http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>
Is it possible to start Pharo headless and execute some command (say to get some info from a web page)?
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Hi, As far as I know, OSProcess does not work on Windows. Cheers, Doru On 12 May 2010, at 23:54, Andrei Stebakov wrote:
Installation worked well. Something is still missing (docs for sure!) when I type "OSProcess thisOSProcess" and evaluate/print it it says "a WindowsProcess with pid nil".
2010/5/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com> It seems the wiki is outdated. Please try this to install it:
Gofer new squeaksource: 'Coral'; package: 'LoadCoral'; load.
(Smalltalk at: #CoralLoader) load.
DISCLAIMER: I have no idea of it is working or not. It just load. And I am not even sure if loads completely correct
Cheers
mariano
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Right, I just didn't get it on the first read...
2010/5/12 Gabriel Brunstein <gaboto@gmail.com> As I read there, Coral IS A PACKAGE FOR PHARO! so you would not be using another tool. I don't know which is the state of Coral, if it works or not (based on the previous mail of Stephane)
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Thank you, I'll give it a try. See, maybe my philosophy is wrong, but I'd rather get better at one tool (where it's possible) than learn multiple different tools to do similar tasks. I think Pharo has a potential to be if not a Swiss army knife like Python, but a very useful language for any programming tasks (scripting is one of them). So far, as a newbie, I like what I see in Pharo and having a blast learning it. I am so thrilled, that just a thought that it could do scripting sends shivers down my spine :)
2010/5/12 Gabriel Brunstein <gaboto@gmail.com>
What about coral? http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Is it possible to start Pharo headless and execute some command (say to get some info from a web page)?
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Well, maybe partially. At least "OSProcess isWindows" or "OSProcess osVersion" report the correct info. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
As far as I know, OSProcess does not work on Windows.
Cheers, Doru
On 12 May 2010, at 23:54, Andrei Stebakov wrote:
Installation worked well.
Something is still missing (docs for sure!) when I type "OSProcess thisOSProcess" and evaluate/print it it says "a WindowsProcess with pid nil".
2010/5/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com> It seems the wiki is outdated. Please try this to install it:
Gofer new squeaksource: 'Coral'; package: 'LoadCoral'; load.
(Smalltalk at: #CoralLoader) load.
DISCLAIMER: I have no idea of it is working or not. It just load. And I am not even sure if loads completely correct
Cheers
mariano
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Right, I just didn't get it on the first read...
2010/5/12 Gabriel Brunstein <gaboto@gmail.com> As I read there, Coral IS A PACKAGE FOR PHARO! so you would not be using another tool. I don't know which is the state of Coral, if it works or not (based on the previous mail of Stephane)
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Thank you, I'll give it a try. See, maybe my philosophy is wrong, but I'd rather get better at one tool (where it's possible) than learn multiple different tools to do similar tasks. I think Pharo has a potential to be if not a Swiss army knife like Python, but a very useful language for any programming tasks (scripting is one of them). So far, as a newbie, I like what I see in Pharo and having a blast learning it. I am so thrilled, that just a thought that it could do scripting sends shivers down my spine :)
2010/5/12 Gabriel Brunstein <gaboto@gmail.com>
What about coral? http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Is it possible to start Pharo headless and execute some command (say to get some info from a web page)?
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OSProcess is partially implemented on Windows, but the required plugin is not normally distributed with Windows VMs. That is the reason for "WindowsProcess with pid nil". The WindowsProcess object is a proxy for the external Windows process, and the pid is nil because the actual process could not be started (because of the missing plugin). http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708 Dave On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:28:14AM +0200, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
As far as I know, OSProcess does not work on Windows.
Cheers, Doru
On 12 May 2010, at 23:54, Andrei Stebakov wrote:
Installation worked well. Something is still missing (docs for sure!) when I type "OSProcess thisOSProcess" and evaluate/print it it says "a WindowsProcess with pid nil".
2010/5/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com> It seems the wiki is outdated. Please try this to install it:
Gofer new squeaksource: 'Coral'; package: 'LoadCoral'; load.
(Smalltalk at: #CoralLoader) load.
DISCLAIMER: I have no idea of it is working or not. It just load. And I am not even sure if loads completely correct
Cheers
mariano
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Right, I just didn't get it on the first read...
2010/5/12 Gabriel Brunstein <gaboto@gmail.com> As I read there, Coral IS A PACKAGE FOR PHARO! so you would not be using another tool. I don't know which is the state of Coral, if it works or not (based on the previous mail of Stephane)
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Thank you, I'll give it a try. See, maybe my philosophy is wrong, but I'd rather get better at one tool (where it's possible) than learn multiple different tools to do similar tasks. I think Pharo has a potential to be if not a Swiss army knife like Python, but a very useful language for any programming tasks (scripting is one of them). So far, as a newbie, I like what I see in Pharo and having a blast learning it. I am so thrilled, that just a thought that it could do scripting sends shivers down my spine :)
2010/5/12 Gabriel Brunstein <gaboto@gmail.com>
What about coral? http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Is it possible to start Pharo headless and execute some command (say to get some info from a web page)?
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On windows I do not know if OSProcess is working. I tested on mac. Stef On May 12, 2010, at 11:54 PM, Andrei Stebakov wrote:
Installation worked well. Something is still missing (docs for sure!) when I type "OSProcess thisOSProcess" and evaluate/print it it says "a WindowsProcess with pid nil".
2010/5/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com> It seems the wiki is outdated. Please try this to install it:
Gofer new squeaksource: 'Coral'; package: 'LoadCoral'; load.
(Smalltalk at: #CoralLoader) load.
DISCLAIMER: I have no idea of it is working or not. It just load. And I am not even sure if loads completely correct
Cheers
mariano
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Right, I just didn't get it on the first read...
2010/5/12 Gabriel Brunstein <gaboto@gmail.com> As I read there, Coral IS A PACKAGE FOR PHARO! so you would not be using another tool. I don't know which is the state of Coral, if it works or not (based on the previous mail of Stephane)
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Thank you, I'll give it a try. See, maybe my philosophy is wrong, but I'd rather get better at one tool (where it's possible) than learn multiple different tools to do similar tasks. I think Pharo has a potential to be if not a Swiss army knife like Python, but a very useful language for any programming tasks (scripting is one of them). So far, as a newbie, I like what I see in Pharo and having a blast learning it. I am so thrilled, that just a thought that it could do scripting sends shivers down my spine :)
2010/5/12 Gabriel Brunstein <gaboto@gmail.com>
What about coral? http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Is it possible to start Pharo headless and execute some command (say to get some info from a web page)?
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On May 12, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Gabriel Brunstein wrote:
As I read there, Coral IS A PACKAGE FOR PHARO! so you would not be using another tool. I don't know which is the state of Coral, if it works or not (based on the previous mail of Stephane)
it works but on my machine. So you have to create sh script by end to laucnh pharo on the command line.... But it works. Stef
On May 12, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Andrei Stebakov wrote:
Thank you, I'll give it a try. See, maybe my philosophy is wrong, but I'd rather get better at one tool (where it's possible) than learn multiple different tools to do similar tasks. I think Pharo has a potential to be if not a Swiss army knife like Python, but a very useful language for any programming tasks (scripting is one of them). So far, as a newbie, I like what I see in Pharo and having a blast learning it. I am so thrilled, that just a thought that it could do scripting sends shivers down my spine :)
Yes I would love to have what you describe. This is why I started to - define a cool scripting syntax - it works - play with sh script to have the possibility to run script in headless or with debugger on problem. So if you want to have a look (but this is preliminary). Load CoralLoader and do CoralLoader load and you should have a look at the comments but this is a bit the mess. If you want to help there is space for improvement. Stef
Was trying to install Coral with "ScriptLoader new installer ss project: 'Coral'; install: 'LoadCoral'.df" command. Gave me a MessageNotUnderstood along the process: MessageNotUnderstood: Installer class>>squeaksource Installer class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #squeaksource [] in Installer class>>doesNotUnderstand: #squeaksource IdentityDictionary(Dictionary)>>at:ifAbsent: Installer class>>doesNotUnderstand: #squeaksource Installer class>>ss UndefinedObject>>DoIt Compiler>>evaluate:in:to:notifying:ifFail:logged: [] in TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>evaluateSelection BlockClosure>>on:do: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>evaluateSelection TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>doIt [] in TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>doIt: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>terminateAndInitializeAround: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>doIt: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>dispatchOnKeyEvent:with: TextMorphForShoutEditor(TextMorphEditor)>>dispatchOnKeyEvent:with: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>keystroke: TextMorphForShoutEditor(TextMorphEditor)>>keystroke: [] in [] in TextMorphForShout(TextMorph)>>keyStroke: TextMorphForShout(TextMorph)>>handleInteraction: Installer class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #squeaksource [] in Installer class>>doesNotUnderstand: #squeaksource IdentityDictionary(Dictionary)>>at:ifAbsent: Installer class>>doesNotUnderstand: #squeaksource Installer class>>ss UndefinedObject>>DoIt Compiler>>evaluate:in:to:notifying:ifFail:logged: [] in TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>evaluateSelection BlockClosure>>on:do: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>evaluateSelection TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>doIt [] in TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>doIt: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>terminateAndInitializeAround: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>doIt: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>dispatchOnKeyEvent:with: TextMorphForShoutEditor(TextMorphEditor)>>dispatchOnKeyEvent:with: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>keystroke: TextMorphForShoutEditor(TextMorphEditor)>>keystroke: [] in [] in TextMorphForShout(TextMorph)>>keyStroke: TextMorphForShout(TextMorph)>>handleInteraction: doesNotUnderstand: aMessage Oh well, probably some dependencies are missing... 2010/5/12 Gabriel Brunstein <gaboto@gmail.com>
What about coral? http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com>
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Do not use installer CoralLoader load should work. Stef On May 12, 2010, at 11:10 PM, Andrei Stebakov wrote:
Was trying to install Coral with "ScriptLoader new installer ss project: 'Coral'; install: 'LoadCoral'.df" command.
Gave me a MessageNotUnderstood along the process:
MessageNotUnderstood: Installer class>>squeaksource Installer class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #squeaksource [] in Installer class>>doesNotUnderstand: #squeaksource IdentityDictionary(Dictionary)>>at:ifAbsent: Installer class>>doesNotUnderstand: #squeaksource Installer class>>ss UndefinedObject>>DoIt Compiler>>evaluate:in:to:notifying:ifFail:logged: [] in TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>evaluateSelection BlockClosure>>on:do: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>evaluateSelection TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>doIt [] in TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>doIt: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>terminateAndInitializeAround: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>doIt: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>dispatchOnKeyEvent:with: TextMorphForShoutEditor(TextMorphEditor)>>dispatchOnKeyEvent:with: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>keystroke: TextMorphForShoutEditor(TextMorphEditor)>>keystroke: [] in [] in TextMorphForShout(TextMorph)>>keyStroke: TextMorphForShout(TextMorph)>>handleInteraction:
Installer class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #squeaksource [] in Installer class>>doesNotUnderstand: #squeaksource IdentityDictionary(Dictionary)>>at:ifAbsent: Installer class>>doesNotUnderstand: #squeaksource Installer class>>ss UndefinedObject>>DoIt Compiler>>evaluate:in:to:notifying:ifFail:logged: [] in TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>evaluateSelection BlockClosure>>on:do: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>evaluateSelection TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>doIt [] in TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>doIt: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>terminateAndInitializeAround: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>doIt: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>dispatchOnKeyEvent:with: TextMorphForShoutEditor(TextMorphEditor)>>dispatchOnKeyEvent:with: TextMorphForShoutEditor(ParagraphEditor)>>keystroke: TextMorphForShoutEditor(TextMorphEditor)>>keystroke: [] in [] in TextMorphForShout(TextMorph)>>keyStroke: TextMorphForShout(TextMorph)>>handleInteraction: doesNotUnderstand: aMessage
Oh well, probably some dependencies are missing...
2010/5/12 Gabriel Brunstein <gaboto@gmail.com> What about coral? http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/projects/bachelorsprojects/coral
2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat@gmail.com> Is it possible to start Pharo headless and execute some command (say to get some info from a web page)?
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