Pharo3.0 and Halos: very annoying to work with
I am working on moving TWM to 3.0 and the way morphs are controlled now is really annoying. Now, we get the new menu when doing the special clicking (e.g. Shift-Alt-Click in Windows, Cmd-Shift Click in OSX). How is one now supposed to be accessing the internal morphs by clicking multiple times and having the halo follow suit? The menu prevents that as it gets in the way. Thanks. Phil
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 11:00 PM, <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
phil@highoctane.be wrote:
I am working on moving TWM to 3.0 and the way morphs are controlled now is really annoying.
Now, we get the new menu when doing the special clicking (e.g. Shift-Alt-Click in Windows, Cmd-Shift Click in OSX).
How is one now supposed to be accessing the internal morphs by clicking multiple times and having the halo follow suit?
The menu prevents that as it gets in the way.
Thanks.
Phil
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Not sure what you mean. Attached image shows halos after a single <Shift-Alt-Click> in Windows 7 build 30780. cheers -ben
Latest build, Windows 8.1 gives me the attached picture. Only when doing "add halos" in the menu showing up do we get halos. Phil
philippeback wrote
Now, we get the new menu when doing the special clicking (e.g. Shift-Alt-Click in Windows, Cmd-Shift Click in OSX).
On what are you clicking when the menu appears? Halos in 30792 on Mac works fine for me cycling in both directions when I click on several different Nautilus panes. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo3-0-and-Halos-very-annoying-to-work-with-tp474827... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Halos are great, but in the current implementation they are rather poor when you want to select a specific submorph. A different mechanism is offered by the GTInspector by means of two presentations: submorphs and preview. Take a look: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/custom-morph-screenshot-with-gtinspect... Cheers, Doru On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com>wrote:
philippeback wrote
Now, we get the new menu when doing the special clicking (e.g. Shift-Alt-Click in Windows, Cmd-Shift Click in OSX).
On what are you clicking when the menu appears? Halos in 30792 on Mac works fine for me cycling in both directions when I click on several different Nautilus panes.
----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo3-0-and-Halos-very-annoying-to-work-with-tp474827... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Tudor Girba-2 wrote
in the current implementation they are rather poor when you want to select a specific submorph.
Would you be more specific about what doesn't work well for you? I have not found it difficult to cycle through submorphs (once two-way cycling was re-enabled as a setting). ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo3-0-and-Halos-very-annoying-to-work-with-tp474827... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Hmm, how do you two-way cycle? Phil On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com>wrote:
Tudor Girba-2 wrote
in the current implementation they are rather poor when you want to select a specific submorph.
Would you be more specific about what doesn't work well for you? I have not found it difficult to cycle through submorphs (once two-way cycling was re-enabled as a setting).
----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo3-0-and-Halos-very-annoying-to-work-with-tp474827... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
philippeback wrote
Hmm, how do you two-way cycle?
After you enable the setting (search for "halo" I think), the shortcut without shift works in addition to shift variant, and cycles the opposite way (one is front to back, the other back to front). This is the original Squeak behavior ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo3-0-and-Halos-very-annoying-to-work-with-tp474827... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
I see what's been going on. I was Ctrl-Shift-Clicking in Windows, kind of muscle memory from OSX I guess. Well, sorry... I now know yet another menu then :-) Phil Pharo Consortium Member - http://consortium.pharo.org/ Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast - http://spamcast.libsyn.com Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value Added Reseller On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com>wrote:
philippeback wrote
Now, we get the new menu when doing the special clicking (e.g. Shift-Alt-Click in Windows, Cmd-Shift Click in OSX).
On what are you clicking when the menu appears? Halos in 30792 on Mac works fine for me cycling in both directions when I click on several different Nautilus panes.
----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo3-0-and-Halos-very-annoying-to-work-with-tp474827... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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