Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Experimental Cocoa OS-X based Squeak Cog JIT VM 5.8b4.
Ok, so I have Ken Brown & Mariano Martinez Peck saying the cntl-arrow keys work, and Tudor Girba saying they don't work. Obviously I need someone to document the behaviour in a 4.x VM and then in 5.8b4 so we understand what happens or doesn't happen. On 2010-08-29, at 7:45 AM, Ken G. Brown wrote:
... When Squeak has focus, cntl-arrow keys change Spaces as is normal on MacPro 10.6.4
Ken G. Brown
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On 4.2.2beta1 these keys work as expected. I have to mention that I am still on Mac OS X 10.5.8. Perhaps the others are on Snow Leopard. Could that be a difference? Cheers, Doru On 29 Aug 2010, at 19:27, John M McIntosh wrote:
Ok, so I have Ken Brown & Mariano Martinez Peck saying the cntl- arrow keys work, and Tudor Girba saying they don't work. Obviously I need someone to document the behaviour in a 4.x VM and then in 5.8b4 so we understand what happens or doesn't happen.
On 2010-08-29, at 7:45 AM, Ken G. Brown wrote:
... When Squeak has focus, cntl-arrow keys change Spaces as is normal on MacPro 10.6.4
Ken G. Brown
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Ah, yes this is a functional change between 10.5 and 10.6 Can you document a test case for me in a 4.x squeak VM so I can figure out what to do for the 10.5 users On 2010-08-29, at 10:37 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
On 4.2.2beta1 these keys work as expected.
I have to mention that I am still on Mac OS X 10.5.8. Perhaps the others are on Snow Leopard. Could that be a difference?
Cheers, Doru
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Hi, On 29 Aug 2010, at 19:44, John M McIntosh wrote:
Ah, yes this is a functional change between 10.5 and 10.6
Can you document a test case for me in a 4.x squeak VM so I can figure out what to do for the 10.5 users
How exactly should I do that? I just checked in a 4.2.2 and everything works as expected. Cheers, Doru
On 2010-08-29, at 10:37 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
On 4.2.2beta1 these keys work as expected.
I have to mention that I am still on Mac OS X 10.5.8. Perhaps the others are on Snow Leopard. Could that be a difference?
Cheers, Doru
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Ok, well I have no idea what you are using control-arrow-left key for. if you bring up a browser window, place the cursor in the text entry input field then? What do you expect to happen when you tap certain keys? On 2010-08-29, at 10:50 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
On 29 Aug 2010, at 19:44, John M McIntosh wrote:
Ah, yes this is a functional change between 10.5 and 10.6
Can you document a test case for me in a 4.x squeak VM so I can figure out what to do for the 10.5 users
How exactly should I do that?
I just checked in a 4.2.2 and everything works as expected.
Cheers, Doru
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Ahh, I see. I expect it to jump between words. On regular Mac applications, you get this behavior by pressing alt-arrow. And when I press shift-ctrl-arrow, I expect it to select up to the end of the word. On regular Mac applications, you get this behavior by pressing alt-shift-arrow. Of course, I would not mind if instead of ctrl we would have alt :). Cheers, Doru On 29 Aug 2010, at 20:52, John M McIntosh wrote:
Ok, well I have no idea what you are using control-arrow-left key for. if you bring up a browser window, place the cursor in the text entry input field then? What do you expect to happen when you tap certain keys?
On 2010-08-29, at 10:50 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
On 29 Aug 2010, at 19:44, John M McIntosh wrote:
Ah, yes this is a functional change between 10.5 and 10.6
Can you document a test case for me in a 4.x squeak VM so I can figure out what to do for the 10.5 users
How exactly should I do that?
I just checked in a 4.2.2 and everything works as expected.
Cheers, Doru
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Ok, you are mixing two issues here (a) I need to make the 5.8 behaviour the same as the 4.2.x VM behaviour. (b) Once we have the same behaviour then you are welcome to propose changing the smalltalk text editor code to make the cursor and word selection dance however you or the community would like it to... On 2010-08-29, at 11:55 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Ahh, I see.
I expect it to jump between words. On regular Mac applications, you get this behavior by pressing alt-arrow.
And when I press shift-ctrl-arrow, I expect it to select up to the end of the word. On regular Mac applications, you get this behavior by pressing alt-shift-arrow.
Of course, I would not mind if instead of ctrl we would have alt :).
Cheers, Doru
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Ok, let me explain better. On 4.2.x (Mac OS X 10.5.8): - ctrl+arrow = jump between words - ctrl+shift+arrow = select up to the next word On 5.8 (Mac OS X 10.5.8): - ctrl+arrow = nothing happens - ctrl+shift+arrow = nothing happens I only mentioned regular Mac widgets for reference. Cheers, Doru On 29 Aug 2010, at 23:16, John M McIntosh wrote:
Ok, you are mixing two issues here
(a) I need to make the 5.8 behaviour the same as the 4.2.x VM behaviour.
(b) Once we have the same behaviour then you are welcome to propose changing the smalltalk text editor code to make the cursor and word selection dance however you or the community would like it to...
On 2010-08-29, at 11:55 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Ahh, I see.
I expect it to jump between words. On regular Mac applications, you get this behavior by pressing alt-arrow.
And when I press shift-ctrl-arrow, I expect it to select up to the end of the word. On regular Mac applications, you get this behavior by pressing alt-shift-arrow.
Of course, I would not mind if instead of ctrl we would have alt :).
Cheers, Doru
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On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4.2.2beta1 these keys work as expected.
I have to mention that I am still on Mac OS X 10.5.8. Perhaps the others are on Snow Leopard. Could that be a difference?
I am in 10.6.4
Cheers, Doru
On 29 Aug 2010, at 19:27, John M McIntosh wrote:
Ok, so I have Ken Brown & Mariano Martinez Peck saying the cntl-arrow
keys work, and Tudor Girba saying they don't work. Obviously I need someone to document the behaviour in a 4.x VM and then in 5.8b4 so we understand what happens or doesn't happen.
On 2010-08-29, at 7:45 AM, Ken G. Brown wrote:
...
When Squeak has focus, cntl-arrow keys change Spaces as is normal on MacPro 10.6.4
Ken G. Brown
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