Hello Tim and the group thank you for your reply. It is very good to hear, that it is effort in the Smalltalk Scratch, especially when it has such good results. By the way: can I see it as the new Smalltalk Scratch version also for other platforms than Raspberry Pi? I ask, because also other Smalltalk based implementations could profit from it, for example the ipad-version Pyonkee or the Version with Smalltalk-code-view Phratch. Speed would be a matter when programming serious Apps for tablets or smartphones. By using all its sensors children could make nice tools with it and they experiment not only with Software but with the real world objects (which also brings them closer to Smalltalks object orientation). But this detaches me from my real concern: how is it possible to bundle all the initiatives and power to have realized such a continuous Scratch / Smalltalk tool, that I tried to describe with my Topic. Unfortunately nobody answered on my question if such a tool is welcome. Maybe I am the only one with that vision. Best Regards, Bernhard I just replied in the squeak-list, that I shift the discussion to pharo list. I wrote there: „...Because there is no discussion started about my underlying question, I try to continue it on pharo list. I think, many of the participants in squeak list are also participants there. Further I think, that scratch could be a good starting point Tobias mentioned the https://programmieren.wdrmaus.de <https://programmieren.wdrmaus.de/> project which again shows that Scratch is spread and willingly used. Maybe it is not such important, which porting is used as long the "project" code is interchangeable, which means that the Smalltalk-based implementation should be maintained and always be up to date. I dont know if someone takes care about that."

Am 03.11.2018 um 04:27 schrieb tim Rowledge <tim@rowledge.org>:

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On 2018-11-02, at 3:22 PM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Tim

I think you do not read the Pharo list.

This is true. Only so much time in one life...

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Below post from somebody who is not aware that you ported Scratch to the freshly release Squeak 5.2 easily loadable through SqueakMap....

Hi Bernhard - I spent some time working for the Raspberry Pi Foundation to significantly rewrite the original Scratch/Squeak implementation so it would perform well on the Pi (back then of course the original Pi with the single core 700MHz cpu) and I was able to make it really quite a lot faster. I also made it possible to run on a modern version of Squeak and indeed it currently runs on Squeak 5.2 - which makes it *very* nice on a Pi3B+.

You can find it on SqueakMap as 'nuscratch' along with the gpio server and gpio driver libraries I developed. You might also be interested in the 'Whiskers' project by someone I only know as 'NoMod'; google is your friend in this case. They developed some further extensions to read .sb2 files, change the UI to closely match that of Scratch 2 (which as you likely know was a rewrite by MIT in *Flash*, of all horrible things) and add some new blocks.

tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Strange OpCodes: CBA: Compare if Biorhythms Amenable