[Pharo-project] [ANN][Pharo-dev] First release
Hi, I've published the first version of Pharo-dev. It is hosted on gforge as usual: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299. I will try to generate new pharo-dev images when I generate squeak-dev images if anyone is interested. Are you? Bye -- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
I agree with Bil, it is hard to say whether people will find Pharo-dev useful. Just give a try :-) Cheers, Alexandre On 30 May 2008, at 15:06, Damien Cassou wrote:
Hi,
I've published the first version of Pharo-dev. It is hosted on gforge as usual: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299. I will try to generate new pharo-dev images when I generate squeak-dev images if anyone is interested. Are you?
Bye
-- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
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On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu> wrote:
I agree with Bil, it is hard to say whether people will find Pharo-dev useful. Just give a try :-)
I was thinking about you guys who are working on Pharo himself. It seems you all load OB, RB and the other manually. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
I personally invoke the ObLoader2 method at each Pharo release to have the tools that I need.., Cheers, Alexandre On 30 May 2008, at 16:12, Damien Cassou wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu> wrote:
I agree with Bil, it is hard to say whether people will find Pharo- dev useful. Just give a try :-)
I was thinking about you guys who are working on Pharo himself. It seems you all load OB, RB and the other manually.
-- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
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yes we are. I hope to have a server soon for the universe On May 30, 2008, at 3:06 PM, Damien Cassou wrote:
Hi,
I've published the first version of Pharo-dev. It is hosted on gforge as usual: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299. I will try to generate new pharo-dev images when I generate squeak-dev images if anyone is interested. Are you?
Bye
-- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
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On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
yes we are. I hope to have a server soon for the universe
I think it will be difficult to maintain a universe server (each time you update a package on the squeak universe, you will have to do it again for pharo). -- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
Yes!. I would love to have a minimal universe with nothing loaded but so that people can one click load their favorite tools. Stef On May 30, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Damien Cassou wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu> wrote:
I agree with Bil, it is hard to say whether people will find Pharo- dev useful. Just give a try :-)
I was thinking about you guys who are working on Pharo himself. It seems you all load OB, RB and the other manually.
-- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
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I hope to have a server soon for the universe
I think it will be difficult to maintain a universe server (each time you update a package on the squeak universe, you will have to do it again for pharo).
A Universe is a set of packages. You want another set. If I change the Squeak set, the Pharo set won't be updated. This has some advantages (we control what appears in our universe), but has the big disadvantage of duplicating my effort to update the Squeak Universe. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com> wrote:
A Universe is a set of packages. You want another set. If I change the Squeak set, the Pharo set won't be updated. This has some advantages (we control what appears in our universe), but has the big disadvantage of duplicating my effort to update the Squeak Universe.
What about Keith's Sake packages? Since they are regular smalltalk method they can be managed using MC instead of an ad-hoc server, and maybe the common parts can be modularized using inheritance/delegation... -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet
2008/6/1 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com>:
I hope to have a server soon for the universe
I think it will be difficult to maintain a universe server (each time you update a package on the squeak universe, you will have to do it again for pharo).
A Universe is a set of packages. You want another set. If I change the Squeak set, the Pharo set won't be updated. This has some advantages (we control what appears in our universe), but has the big disadvantage of duplicating my effort to update the Squeak Universe.
I guess Squeak Universe manage versions ? Why not consider Pharo as a specific Squeak version ? -- Serge Stinckwich http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich@doesnotunderstand.org> wrote:
2008/6/1 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com>:
I hope to have a server soon for the universe
I think it will be difficult to maintain a universe server (each time you update a package on the squeak universe, you will have to do it again for pharo).
A Universe is a set of packages. You want another set. If I change the Squeak set, the Pharo set won't be updated. This has some advantages (we control what appears in our universe), but has the big disadvantage of duplicating my effort to update the Squeak Universe.
I guess Squeak Universe manage versions ? Why not consider Pharo as a specific Squeak version ?
I think it does not change anything. Once you create a universe (from scratch or from another one), I don't think updates in one goes to the other. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
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