[Pharo-project] which Shout repository should we use?
Hi folks. We should discuss which Shout repository to use for the PharoDev image. Some months ago we had the same problem...which OB repository to took? the one from squeaksource or Lukas's one. We chose Lukas's one because he maintained it. Now we have the same situation with Shout. There is the SS (http://www.squeaksource.com/shout) repo for it, and Lukas' one ( http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/unsorted) in his own repo. Now...we have 3 options: 1) Start to use Lukas' one. For that, I have to update ConfigurationOfShout and start using that repo. 2) Continue to use the SS one but...someone needs to merge lukas fixes from his repo to the SS repo. I don't have time to do this. So....what do we do? As an example, Lukas committed today all the removal to Preferences, something that is needed for Pharo 1.2. Cheers Mariano
this is a good question. for now I would just update the configuration to point for the repo of lukas :) Stef On Aug 15, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Hi folks. We should discuss which Shout repository to use for the PharoDev image. Some months ago we had the same problem...which OB repository to took? the one from squeaksource or Lukas's one. We chose Lukas's one because he maintained it. Now we have the same situation with Shout. There is the SS (http://www.squeaksource.com/shout) repo for it, and Lukas' one (http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/unsorted) in his own repo.
Now...we have 3 options:
1) Start to use Lukas' one. For that, I have to update ConfigurationOfShout and start using that repo.
2) Continue to use the SS one but...someone needs to merge lukas fixes from his repo to the SS repo. I don't have time to do this.
So....what do we do?
As an example, Lukas committed today all the removal to Preferences, something that is needed for Pharo 1.2.
Cheers
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On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:
this is a good question. for now I would just update the configuration to point for the repo of lukas :)
But now for example, I need to remove the style instVar in PluggableShoutMorph because in Pharo 1.2 it has already such instVar. But I don't know if I can commit or if Lukas would integrate such change in his repo beacuse that will break Shout to load in Pharo 1.1 (the image he uses) so... lukas what do you think we should do? Thanks Mariano
Stef
On Aug 15, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Hi folks. We should discuss which Shout repository to use for the PharoDev image. Some months ago we had the same problem...which OB repository to took? the one from squeaksource or Lukas's one. We chose Lukas's one because he maintained it. Now we have the same situation with Shout. There is the SS (http://www.squeaksource.com/shout) repo for it, and Lukas' one (http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/unsorted) in his own repo.
Now...we have 3 options:
1) Start to use Lukas' one. For that, I have to update ConfigurationOfShout and start using that repo.
2) Continue to use the SS one but...someone needs to merge lukas fixes from his repo to the SS repo. I don't have time to do this.
So....what do we do?
As an example, Lukas committed today all the removal to Preferences, something that is needed for Pharo 1.2.
Cheers
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2010/8/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
this is a good question. for now I would just update the configuration to point for the repo of lukas :)
But now for example, I need to remove the style instVar in PluggableShoutMorph because in Pharo 1.2 it has already such instVar. But I don't know if I can commit or if Lukas would integrate such change in his repo beacuse that will break Shout to load in Pharo 1.1 (the image he uses)
I will fix it as soon as the PharoCore 1.2 release candidate is out and I am able to use the image.
so... lukas what do you think we should do?
So either fix it in Pharo or create your own 'temporary' version of Shout in the repository where you keep all the versions for building the images. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch
But, a simple instance variable rename would solve the problem for now. Why is that not good enough now and then remove it later? Cheers, Doru On 16 Aug 2010, at 18:25, Lukas Renggli wrote:
2010/8/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
this is a good question. for now I would just update the configuration to point for the repo of lukas :)
But now for example, I need to remove the style instVar in PluggableShoutMorph because in Pharo 1.2 it has already such instVar. But I don't know if I can commit or if Lukas would integrate such change in his repo beacuse that will break Shout to load in Pharo 1.1 (the image he uses)
I will fix it as soon as the PharoCore 1.2 release candidate is out and I am able to use the image.
so... lukas what do you think we should do?
So either fix it in Pharo or create your own 'temporary' version of Shout in the repository where you keep all the versions for building the images.
Lukas
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I thought that configurationOf what exactly to solve this kind of problem: using two different branches for to different distribution Stef On Aug 16, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
But, a simple instance variable rename would solve the problem for now. Why is that not good enough now and then remove it later?
Cheers, Doru
On 16 Aug 2010, at 18:25, Lukas Renggli wrote:
2010/8/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
this is a good question. for now I would just update the configuration to point for the repo of lukas :)
But now for example, I need to remove the style instVar in PluggableShoutMorph because in Pharo 1.2 it has already such instVar. But I don't know if I can commit or if Lukas would integrate such change in his repo beacuse that will break Shout to load in Pharo 1.1 (the image he uses)
I will fix it as soon as the PharoCore 1.2 release candidate is out and I am able to use the image.
so... lukas what do you think we should do?
So either fix it in Pharo or create your own 'temporary' version of Shout in the repository where you keep all the versions for building the images.
Lukas
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On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com> wrote:
But, a simple instance variable rename would solve the problem for now. Why is that not good enough now and then remove it later?
Yes, that's good enough. My question was more general than this particular situation. I wanted to discuss which repository Pharo official images should use.
Cheers, Doru
On 16 Aug 2010, at 18:25, Lukas Renggli wrote:
2010/8/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
this is a good question. for now I would just update the configuration to point for the repo of lukas :)
But now for example, I need to remove the style instVar in PluggableShoutMorph because in Pharo 1.2 it has already such instVar. But I don't know if I can commit or if Lukas would integrate such change in his repo beacuse that will break Shout to load in Pharo 1.1 (the image he uses)
I will fix it as soon as the PharoCore 1.2 release candidate is out and I am able to use the image.
so... lukas what do you think we should do?
So either fix it in Pharo or create your own 'temporary' version of Shout in the repository where you keep all the versions for building the images.
Lukas
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Yes, that's good enough. My question was more general than this particular situation. I wanted to discuss which repository Pharo official images should use.
why can't we use a configurationOfXX based on a pharoShout folder With Gofer we can script the pull from repositories.
Cheers, Doru
On 16 Aug 2010, at 18:25, Lukas Renggli wrote:
2010/8/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
this is a good question. for now I would just update the configuration to point for the repo of lukas :)
But now for example, I need to remove the style instVar in PluggableShoutMorph because in Pharo 1.2 it has already such instVar. But I don't know if I can commit or if Lukas would integrate such change in his repo beacuse that will break Shout to load in Pharo 1.1 (the image he uses)
I will fix it as soon as the PharoCore 1.2 release candidate is out and I am able to use the image.
so... lukas what do you think we should do?
So either fix it in Pharo or create your own 'temporary' version of Shout in the repository where you keep all the versions for building the images.
Lukas
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Lukas if we will use "your" Shout repository for the Dev images....I think it would be nice (and not difficult to do) to have them in its own repository and not in "unsorted". Thanks mariano On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Yes, that's good enough. My question was more general than this particular situation. I wanted to discuss which repository Pharo official images should use.
why can't we use a configurationOfXX based on a pharoShout folder With Gofer we can script the pull from repositories.
Cheers, Doru
On 16 Aug 2010, at 18:25, Lukas Renggli wrote:
2010/8/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
this is a good question. for now I would just update the configuration to point for the repo of lukas :)
But now for example, I need to remove the style instVar in PluggableShoutMorph because in Pharo 1.2 it has already such instVar. But I don't know if I can commit or if Lukas would integrate such change
in
his repo beacuse that will break Shout to load in Pharo 1.1 (the image he uses)
I will fix it as soon as the PharoCore 1.2 release candidate is out and I am able to use the image.
so... lukas what do you think we should do?
So either fix it in Pharo or create your own 'temporary' version of Shout in the repository where you keep all the versions for building the images.
Lukas
-- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch
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I thought I pushed my changes all to the official repos, no? Lukas 2010/9/26 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>:
Lukas if we will use "your" Shout repository for the Dev images....I think it would be nice (and not difficult to do) to have them in its own repository and not in "unsorted".
Thanks
mariano
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Yes, that's good enough. My question was more general than this particular situation. I wanted to discuss which repository Pharo official images should use.
why can't we use a configurationOfXX based on a pharoShout folder With Gofer we can script the pull from repositories.
Cheers, Doru
On 16 Aug 2010, at 18:25, Lukas Renggli wrote:
2010/8/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
this is a good question. for now I would just update the configuration to point for the repo of lukas :)
But now for example, I need to remove the style instVar in PluggableShoutMorph because in Pharo 1.2 it has already such instVar. But I don't know if I can commit or if Lukas would integrate such change in his repo beacuse that will break Shout to load in Pharo 1.1 (the image he uses)
I will fix it as soon as the PharoCore 1.2 release candidate is out and I am able to use the image.
so... lukas what do you think we should do?
So either fix it in Pharo or create your own 'temporary' version of Shout in the repository where you keep all the versions for building the images.
Lukas
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On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli@gmail.com> wrote:
I thought I pushed my changes all to the official repos, no?
yep....sorry for the noise. Thanks lukas
Lukas
2010/9/26 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>:
Lukas if we will use "your" Shout repository for the Dev images....I think it would be nice (and not difficult to do) to have them in its own repository and not in "unsorted".
Thanks
mariano
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Yes, that's good enough. My question was more general than this particular situation. I wanted to discuss which repository Pharo
official
images should use.
why can't we use a configurationOfXX based on a pharoShout folder With Gofer we can script the pull from repositories.
Cheers, Doru
On 16 Aug 2010, at 18:25, Lukas Renggli wrote:
2010/8/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
this is a good question. for now I would just update the configuration to point for the repo of lukas :)
But now for example, I need to remove the style instVar in PluggableShoutMorph because in Pharo 1.2 it has already such instVar. But I don't know if I can commit or if Lukas would integrate such
change
in his repo beacuse that will break Shout to load in Pharo 1.1 (the image he uses)
I will fix it as soon as the PharoCore 1.2 release candidate is out and I am able to use the image.
so... lukas what do you think we should do?
So either fix it in Pharo or create your own 'temporary' version of Shout in the repository where you keep all the versions for building the images.
Lukas
-- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch
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Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
... Now...we have 3 options:
1) Start to use Lukas' one. For that, I have to update ConfigurationOfShout and start using that repo.
2) Continue to use the SS one but...someone needs to merge lukas fixes from his repo to the SS repo. I don't have time to do this.
So....what do we do?
...
That's only 2 options Mariano :) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/which-Shout-repository-should-we-use-tp2326021p2326635... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Geert Claes <geert.wl.claes@gmail.com>wrote:
Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
... Now...we have 3 options:
1) Start to use Lukas' one. For that, I have to update ConfigurationOfShout and start using that repo.
2) Continue to use the SS one but...someone needs to merge lukas fixes from his repo to the SS repo. I don't have time to do this.
So....what do we do?
...
That's only 2 options Mariano :)
hahahahha it alwasys happens that to me...I add or remove items from my original list and I forget to update ;) BTW....other opinions? Lukas? the rest?
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