[Pharo-project] 1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.2 - Transcript behaving strange
Hi everyone, I'm going through the first chapter of Pharo by Example and the Transcript morph behaves somewhat strange. When I type "Transcript show: " into a workspace, every time I press space 2 numbers are shown in the Transcript, they look like character indexes from the text from the workspace it self. I believe this is non intentional, perhaps some debugging output left over ? -- And let me congratulate everyone involved in Pharo, it looks really polished and makes a very good first impression for newcommers to Smalltalk like me :) Best regards, Stanislav Paskalev
Hi Stanislav What image and vm version are you using? Max On 21.07.2010, at 21:47, Stanislav Paskalev wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm going through the first chapter of Pharo by Example and the Transcript morph behaves somewhat strange. When I type "Transcript show: " into a workspace, every time I press space 2 numbers are shown in the Transcript, they look like character indexes from the text from the workspace it self.
I believe this is non intentional, perhaps some debugging output left over ?
-- And let me congratulate everyone involved in Pharo, it looks really polished and makes a very good first impression for newcommers to Smalltalk like me :)
Best regards, Stanislav Paskalev
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Hi Max, I'm using Pharo.exe version 4.0.2 from 12th April 2010, together with the said 1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.2 PharoDev image and PharoV10.sources. I've just noticed that the Inspect shortcut doesn't seem to work. I can execute do it with ctrl+d, print it with ctrl+p and explore using ctrl+shift+i, however plain ctrl+i for inspect is not working. When I select it from the context menu, it's fine. Stanislav Paskalev On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Max Leske <maxleske@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Stanislav
What image and vm version are you using?
Max
On 21.07.2010, at 21:47, Stanislav Paskalev wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm going through the first chapter of Pharo by Example and the Transcript morph behaves somewhat strange. When I type "Transcript show: " into a workspace, every time I press space 2 numbers are shown in the Transcript, they look like character indexes from the text from the workspace it self.
I believe this is non intentional, perhaps some debugging output left over ?
-- And let me congratulate everyone involved in Pharo, it looks really polished and makes a very good first impression for newcommers to Smalltalk like me :)
Best regards, Stanislav Paskalev
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
You shouldn't use the rc and beta builds. There's a lot of developement going on and you'll likely experience weird behaviour. My advice: youse the PBE-image with the 4.0.2 vm. You can get the image from here: Pharo By Example image If you still experience problems, don't hesitate to ask again. We don't know everything :) Max On 21.07.2010, at 21:59, Stanislav Paskalev wrote:
Hi Max,
I'm using Pharo.exe version 4.0.2 from 12th April 2010, together with the said 1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.2 PharoDev image and PharoV10.sources.
I've just noticed that the Inspect shortcut doesn't seem to work. I can execute do it with ctrl+d, print it with ctrl+p and explore using ctrl+shift+i, however plain ctrl+i for inspect is not working. When I select it from the context menu, it's fine.
Stanislav Paskalev
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Max Leske <maxleske@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Stanislav
What image and vm version are you using?
Max
On 21.07.2010, at 21:47, Stanislav Paskalev wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm going through the first chapter of Pharo by Example and the Transcript morph behaves somewhat strange. When I type "Transcript show: " into a workspace, every time I press space 2 numbers are shown in the Transcript, they look like character indexes from the text from the workspace it self.
I believe this is non intentional, perhaps some debugging output left over ?
-- And let me congratulate everyone involved in Pharo, it looks really polished and makes a very good first impression for newcommers to Smalltalk like me :)
Best regards, Stanislav Paskalev
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:11 10PM, Max Leske wrote:
You shouldn't use the rc and beta builds. There's a lot of developement going on and you'll likely experience weird behaviour. My advice: youse the PBE-image with the 4.0.2 vm.
You can get the image from here: Pharo By Example image
Well, shouldn't is a strong word, we do appreciate reports of issues in RC builds. :) Going through the PBE as an intro to smalltalk, you'd probably appreciate the calmer waters of using the PBE-image as Max recommended though. Cheers, Henry
2010/7/21 Henrik Johansen <henrik.s.johansen@veloxit.no>
On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:11 10PM, Max Leske wrote:
You shouldn't use the rc and beta builds.
There's a lot of developement going on and you'll likely experience weird behaviour. My advice: youse the PBE-image with the 4.0.2 vm.
You can get the image from here: Pharo By Example image<https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27023/PBE-1.0.zip>
Well, shouldn't is a strong word, we do appreciate reports of issues in RC builds. :)
Yes, mostly becuase we are talking about a RELEASE CANDIDATE, which may not be the same as using a beta or unstable Pharo 1.2 for example.
Going through the PBE as an intro to smalltalk, you'd probably appreciate the calmer waters of using the PBE-image as Max recommended though.
yes
Cheers, Henry
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Thanks for the correction. I tried to say pretty much that but I guess it came out a bit wrong :p Max On 21.07.2010, at 23:23, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
2010/7/21 Henrik Johansen <henrik.s.johansen@veloxit.no>
On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:11 10PM, Max Leske wrote:
You shouldn't use the rc and beta builds. There's a lot of developement going on and you'll likely experience weird behaviour. My advice: youse the PBE-image with the 4.0.2 vm.
You can get the image from here: Pharo By Example image
Well, shouldn't is a strong word, we do appreciate reports of issues in RC builds. :)
Yes, mostly becuase we are talking about a RELEASE CANDIDATE, which may not be the same as using a beta or unstable Pharo 1.2 for example.
Going through the PBE as an intro to smalltalk, you'd probably appreciate the calmer waters of using the PBE-image as Max recommended though.
yes
Cheers, Henry
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
I understand, I will stick to the PBE image for the book. Thanks everyone! Stanislav Paskalev 2010/7/22 Max Leske <maxleske@gmail.com>:
Thanks for the correction. I tried to say pretty much that but I guess it came out a bit wrong :p Max
On 21.07.2010, at 23:23, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
2010/7/21 Henrik Johansen <henrik.s.johansen@veloxit.no>
On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:11 10PM, Max Leske wrote:
You shouldn't use the rc and beta builds.
There's a lot of developement going on and you'll likely experience weird behaviour. My advice: youse the PBE-image with the 4.0.2 vm. You can get the image from here:Â Pharo By Example image
Well, shouldn't is a strong word, we do appreciate reports of issues in RC builds. :)
Yes, mostly becuase we are talking about a RELEASE CANDIDATE, which may not be the same as using a beta or unstable Pharo 1.2 for example.
Going through the PBE as an intro to smalltalk, you'd probably appreciate the calmer waters of using the PBE-image as Max recommended though.
yes
Cheers, Henry
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Stan First welcome. I noticed that too and I think that this is left over of a trace for trying to catch a bug related to shortcut. We should spot it and remove it. Stef On Jul 21, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Stanislav Paskalev wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm going through the first chapter of Pharo by Example and the Transcript morph behaves somewhat strange. When I type "Transcript show: " into a workspace, every time I press space 2 numbers are shown in the Transcript, they look like character indexes from the text from the workspace it self.
I believe this is non intentional, perhaps some debugging output left over ?
-- And let me congratulate everyone involved in Pharo, it looks really polished and makes a very good first impression for newcommers to Smalltalk like me :)
Best regards, Stanislav Paskalev
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Stanislav Paskalev <kshorg@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm going through the first chapter of Pharo by Example and the Transcript morph behaves somewhat strange. When I type "Transcript show: " into a workspace, every time I press space 2 numbers are shown in the Transcript, they look like character indexes from the text from the workspace it self.
I believe this is non intentional, perhaps some debugging output left over ?
Welcome! Exactly. I also noticed this and it is for sure a left over some debugging. What I am not sure if there is an open bug report for this. Can someone check and open if it isn't ?
-- And let me congratulate everyone involved in Pharo, it looks really polished and makes a very good first impression for newcommers to Smalltalk like me :)
Best regards, Stanislav Paskalev
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
I opened this one (http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2610) June 30, seems to me that it describes the same behaviour cheers, 2010/7/21 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>:
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Stanislav Paskalev <kshorg@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm going through the first chapter of Pharo by Example and the Transcript morph behaves somewhat strange. When I type "Transcript show: " into a workspace, every time I press space 2 numbers are shown in the Transcript, they look like character indexes from the text from the workspace it self.
I believe this is non intentional, perhaps some debugging output left over ?
Welcome!
Exactly. I also noticed this and it is for sure a left over some debugging. What I am not sure if there is an open bug report for this.
Can someone check and open if it isn't ?
-- And let me congratulate everyone involved in Pharo, it looks really polished and makes a very good first impression for newcommers to Smalltalk like me :)
Best regards, Stanislav Paskalev
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
-- Patrick Barroca
participants (6)
-
Henrik Johansen -
Mariano Martinez Peck -
Max Leske -
Patrick Barroca -
Stanislav Paskalev -
Stéphane Ducasse