On Jan 27, 2012, at 7:06 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote:

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Guido Stepken <gstepken@googlemail.com> wrote: I see quite a difference between "doing things right" and "doing the right things" ! :-)

Agreed. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good and all that. But we're talking at different levels here. I want to hear what Marcus thinks to my reply to his post.

I think we need to look at the result. Does this kind of "piss on everything that moves" critique leads to a system that gets better? Or does it lead to complete standstill (because everyone fears to even suggest something). One can train a community to have a "no" reflex... this is what happend to Squeak over the years. Another aspect is: Is it *fun*? That is, does the community has positive energy? It can happen very quickly that this is lost. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de