Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: SqueakSource down... again
You're right, we should continue expecting a human-robot volunteer to press the button every time the machine is broken, and that's very kind attitude. Hernán 2011/2/21 Frank Shearar <frank.shearar@angband.za.org>:
On 2011/02/21 15:31, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
Thanks, do nothing, just wait and see until SqueakSource turns completely unusable.
Maybe cut out the sarcasm. You waited an entire 29 minutes to complain that volunteers who might not be in your timezone aren't responding quickly enough for your tastes.
By the way, it looks rather unbroken from here.
frank
But the problem is that we have no alternatives, and if we want some, we have to build them :). It's not just about complaining and waiting for the others to solve our problems. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
You're right, we should continue expecting a human-robot volunteer to press the button every time the machine is broken, and that's very kind attitude.
Hernán
2011/2/21 Frank Shearar <frank.shearar@angband.za.org>:
On 2011/02/21 15:31, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
Thanks, do nothing, just wait and see until SqueakSource turns completely unusable.
Maybe cut out the sarcasm. You waited an entire 29 minutes to complain that volunteers who might not be in your timezone aren't responding quickly enough for your tastes.
By the way, it looks rather unbroken from here.
frank
Discussing alternatives is a start for a solution, and as I've seen from the posts above we have alternatives, we do not have consensus. 2011/2/21 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito@gmail.com>:
But the problem is that we have no alternatives, and if we want some, we have to build them :). It's not just about complaining and waiting for the others to solve our problems.
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
You're right, we should continue expecting a human-robot volunteer to press the button every time the machine is broken, and that's very kind attitude.
Hernán
2011/2/21 Frank Shearar <frank.shearar@angband.za.org>:
On 2011/02/21 15:31, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
Thanks, do nothing, just wait and see until SqueakSource turns completely unusable.
Maybe cut out the sarcasm. You waited an entire 29 minutes to complain that volunteers who might not be in your timezone aren't responding quickly enough for your tastes.
By the way, it looks rather unbroken from here.
frank
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Hi, at HPI, we have a SqueakSource with a GemStone backend. The only downtimes we experienced were due to necessary maintenance. Best, Michael Am 21.02.2011 um 19:21 schrieb Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com>:
Discussing alternatives is a start for a solution, and as I've seen from the posts above we have alternatives, we do not have consensus.
2011/2/21 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito@gmail.com>:
But the problem is that we have no alternatives, and if we want some, we have to build them :). It's not just about complaining and waiting for the others to solve our problems.
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
You're right, we should continue expecting a human-robot volunteer to press the button every time the machine is broken, and that's very kind attitude.
Hernán
2011/2/21 Frank Shearar <frank.shearar@angband.za.org>:
On 2011/02/21 15:31, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
Thanks, do nothing, just wait and see until SqueakSource turns completely unusable.
Maybe cut out the sarcasm. You waited an entire 29 minutes to complain that volunteers who might not be in your timezone aren't responding quickly enough for your tastes.
By the way, it looks rather unbroken from here.
frank
-- Hernán Morales Information Technology Manager, Institute of Veterinary Genetics. National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. Internal: 422 Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799.
El lun, 21-02-2011 a las 19:25 +0100, Michael Haupt escribió:
Hi,
at HPI, we have a SqueakSource with a GemStone backend. The only downtimes we experienced were due to necessary maintenance.
I think the number of users that hit squeaksource.com vs HPS's own everyday is a key factor in the perceived performance and net uptime of each installation. Cheers.
Michael
Am 21.02.2011 um 19:21 schrieb Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com>:
Discussing alternatives is a start for a solution, and as I've seen from the posts above we have alternatives, we do not have consensus.
2011/2/21 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito@gmail.com>:
But the problem is that we have no alternatives, and if we want some, we have to build them :). It's not just about complaining and waiting for the others to solve our problems.
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
You're right, we should continue expecting a human-robot volunteer to press the button every time the machine is broken, and that's very kind attitude.
Hernán
2011/2/21 Frank Shearar <frank.shearar@angband.za.org>:
On 2011/02/21 15:31, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
Thanks, do nothing, just wait and see until SqueakSource turns completely unusable.
Maybe cut out the sarcasm. You waited an entire 29 minutes to complain that volunteers who might not be in your timezone aren't responding quickly enough for your tastes.
By the way, it looks rather unbroken from here.
frank
-- Hernán Morales Information Technology Manager, Institute of Veterinary Genetics. National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. Internal: 422 Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799.
-- Miguel Cobá http://twitter.com/MiguelCobaMtz http://miguel.leugim.com.mx
Hi, Am 21.02.2011 um 19:31 schrieb Miguel Cobá <miguel.coba@gmail.com>:
at HPI, we have a SqueakSource with a GemStone backend. The only downtimes we experienced were due to necessary maintenance.
I think the number of users that hit squeaksource.com vs HPS's own everyday is a key factor in the perceived performance and net uptime of each installation.
Those SqueakSource standstills *never* occurred after we transitioned to the now-running installation. Before switching, we often experienced standstills as well. That's two simple facts, and the number of users does not play a role in this observation. I do not know the precise number of accesses per day, but around the end of the semester, when students are supposed to deliver their projects, it gets "hot". (I believe that, this term, we had some 80 students in 16 teams.) No freezes. Best, Michael
Hi michael where can we find the code for such a GemStone backend source? Stef On Feb 21, 2011, at 8:43 PM, Michael Haupt wrote:
Hi,
Am 21.02.2011 um 19:31 schrieb Miguel Cobá <miguel.coba@gmail.com>:
at HPI, we have a SqueakSource with a GemStone backend. The only downtimes we experienced were due to necessary maintenance.
I think the number of users that hit squeaksource.com vs HPS's own everyday is a key factor in the perceived performance and net uptime of each installation.
Those SqueakSource standstills *never* occurred after we transitioned to the now-running installation. Before switching, we often experienced standstills as well. That's two simple facts, and the number of users does not play a role in this observation.
I do not know the precise number of accesses per day, but around the end of the semester, when students are supposed to deliver their projects, it gets "hot". (I believe that, this term, we had some 80 students in 16 teams.)
No freezes.
Best,
Michael
Stef, I believe that the source is on SqueakSource in the squeaksource3 repository. This is a port of SqueakSource to Seaside3.0 that was done by Philippe, Tobias and James Foster... Tobias mentioned that he was getting close t finishing things up in an earlier message. Dale On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi michael
where can we find the code for such a GemStone backend source?
Stef On Feb 21, 2011, at 8:43 PM, Michael Haupt wrote:
Hi,
Am 21.02.2011 um 19:31 schrieb Miguel Cobá <miguel.coba@gmail.com>:
at HPI, we have a SqueakSource with a GemStone backend. The only downtimes we experienced were due to necessary maintenance.
I think the number of users that hit squeaksource.com vs HPS's own everyday is a key factor in the perceived performance and net uptime of each installation.
Those SqueakSource standstills *never* occurred after we transitioned to the now-running installation. Before switching, we often experienced standstills as well. That's two simple facts, and the number of users does not play a role in this observation.
I do not know the precise number of accesses per day, but around the end of the semester, when students are supposed to deliver their projects, it gets "hot". (I believe that, this term, we had some 80 students in 16 teams.)
No freezes.
Best,
Michael
Stef,
I believe that the source is on SqueakSource in the squeaksource3 repository. This is a port of SqueakSource to Seaside3.0 that was done by Philippe, Tobias and James Foster...
Thanks!.
Tobias mentioned that he was getting close t finishing things up in an earlier message.
Am 2011-02-21 um 19:25 schrieb Michael Haupt:
Hi,
at HPI, we have a SqueakSource with a GemStone backend. The only downtimes we experienced were due to necessary maintenance.
⦠and I'm working on bringing that to Seaside 3. When my examinations are over, I will release my results of that projects :). It's almost doneâ¢. So Long, -Tobias
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