[Pharo-project] Fwd: [Pharo-users] Adding Websocket support to Zinc
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From: Andy Burnett <andy.burnett@knowinnovation.com> Subject: [Pharo-users] Adding Websocket support to Zinc Date: July 31, 2012 9:39:15 PM GMT+02:00 To: pharo-users@lists.gforge.inria.fr Reply-To: A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.gforge.inria.fr>
I think we need Websocket support built into Pharo. So, rather than talk about it, I have contracted with Sven to build it into Zinc. We hope to have a running version in the early Autumn.
The purpose of this email is: To let everyone know that we will have Websocket support soon To ask if anyone else feels that they would gain commercial benefit from using this feature, and if so, whether they would like to help cover the cost. If so, please drop me an email. Cheers Andy
-- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de
On 31 July 2012 21:12, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
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From: Andy Burnett <andy.burnett@knowinnovation.com> Subject: [Pharo-users] Adding Websocket support to Zinc Date: July 31, 2012 9:39:15 PM GMT+02:00 To: pharo-users@lists.gforge.inria.fr Reply-To: A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.gforge.inria.fr>
I think we need Websocket support built into Pharo. So, rather than talk about it, I have contracted with Sven to build it into Zinc. We hope to have a running version in the early Autumn.
The purpose of this email is:
To let everyone know that we will have Websocket support soon To ask if anyone else feels that they would gain commercial benefit from using this feature, and if so, whether they would like to help cover the cost. If so, please drop me an email.
Cheers Andy
I'm always happy with multiple, competing implementations of things - I was under the impression that Andreas Raab's WebClient also supports WebSockets? frank
-- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de
On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm always happy with multiple, competing implementations of things - I was under the impression that Andreas Raab's WebClient also supports WebSockets?
We originally wanted to use WebClient and were told very clearly that it was off limits for Pharo. (this is why Zinc was done). Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de
On 31 July 2012 21:57, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm always happy with multiple, competing implementations of things - I was under the impression that Andreas Raab's WebClient also supports WebSockets?
We originally wanted to use WebClient and were told very clearly that it was off limits for Pharo. (this is why Zinc was done).
That's... odd, given that it's licenced under MIT. I'm sad to hear that. frank
Marcus
-- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de
On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:16 PM, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar@gmail.com> wrote:
On 31 July 2012 21:57, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm always happy with multiple, competing implementations of things - I was under the impression that Andreas Raab's WebClient also supports WebSockets?
We originally wanted to use WebClient and were told very clearly that it was off limits for Pharo. (this is why Zinc was done).
That's... odd, given that it's licenced under MIT. I'm sad to hear that.
The MIT change came after we removed it from Pharo. Zinc is much better anyway. Not only from a technological point of view, much more from a social one. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de
Zinc is much better anyway. Not only from a technological point of view, much more from a social one.
Zinc constantly improved over the year and sven is always open to improvements. Zinc is a really nice gift to the community and we deeply appreciated the long effort sven did. Sven is aligned with our vision to build a powerful, clean, simple and pragmatic system so this is excellent. This is why a new look at WebSocket is definitively cool. What is also nice is that sven company uses zinc daily.
Dne 31. 07. 2012 22:18, piše Frank Shearar:
I'm always happy with multiple, competing implementations of things - I was under the impression that Andreas Raab's WebClient also supports WebSockets?
Swazoo 2.3 beta web server also uses WebSockets and we are currently upgrading it to the latest WebSocket version. And WebSockets are used by default in Aida for a while when visitor uses WebSocket enabled browser. It is certainly quite an an advantage in speed and responsibility of a web app if WebSockets are used for transport mechanism. Not to mention the out-of-the shelf realtime web app support, which are now really simple with WebSockets. By real-time I mean that content of the webpage is updated immediately when some outside even occured, like new twit comes. Yes, Twitter is one of the first real-time web apps around. Best regards Janko -- Janko Mivšek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si
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