Not seeing hidden character is confusing :)
Hi I have the impression that we can introduce hidden characters while typing code and this is a problem to me because we do not see them :) I got for example selhiddenf and it can lead to strange situations. I will try to chase the key combinations that produce them and see how we can control and avoid this situation. If you find the key combination please let me know. S. -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
Yes... We need to show something. At least in the code editor, when it is clear we don't want them. On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 20:44 Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi
I have the impression that we can introduce hidden characters while typing code and this is a problem to me because we do not see them :) I got for example selhiddenf and it can lead to strange situations.
I will try to chase the key combinations that produce them and see how we can control and avoid this situation. If you find the key combination please let me know.
S. -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
Shift + space = insecable space It would be cool to be able to toggle a mode as in text editor where hidden characters are represented by a symbol. https://www.avrfreaks.net/sites/default/files/notepadpp.PNG On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 8:44 PM Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi
I have the impression that we can introduce hidden characters while typing code and this is a problem to me because we do not see them :) I got for example selhiddenf and it can lead to strange situations.
I will try to chase the key combinations that produce them and see how we can control and avoid this situation. If you find the key combination please let me know.
S. -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
-- Cyril Ferlicot https://ferlicot.fr
Something like this, yes. And the visualized codes in the editor should be the *default* view -- there are little to no cases where embedded non-printable control codes would be intentional. I can't even think of a case where you would want to press a key combination to make them disappear... And I would argue that turning off this visualization of non-printable codes should be a menu choice to toggle them invisible, not a key sequence. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html
Honoré and I had a debugging session during my sabbatical that was 2+ hours because of a frustrating hidden character that got inserted in a string that was executed in a Shell command. It was not possible to see it in the Pharo editor. It was a CTRL-X at some point, here's the commit where I removed it: https://github.com/fuhrmanator/GitMiner/commit/0b1e564ba2c25fb9cf7dfa925b063... On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 15:49, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi
I have the impression that we can introduce hidden characters while typing code and this is a problem to me because we do not see them :) I got for example selhiddenf and it can lead to strange situations.
I will try to chase the key combinations that produce them and see how we can control and avoid this situation. If you find the key combination please let me know.
S. -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
-- Christopher Fuhrman, P.Eng., PhD *Professeur au Département de génie logiciel et des technologies de l'informationÃTS (Ãcole de technologie supérieure)* http://profs.etsmtl.ca/cfuhrman +1 514 396 8638 *L'ÃTS est une constituante de l'Université du Québec*
It was a CTRL-X
The context was pair-programming (we were using Honoré's Mac). I'm not much of a Mac user anymore, and so on Windows I do CTRL-X to cut (it's a reflex). But on a Mac one must use the Command key, right? I think this is how it happened, but I'm not 100% sure. On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 16:13, Christopher Fuhrman < christopher.fuhrman@etsmtl.ca> wrote:
Honoré and I had a debugging session during my sabbatical that was 2+ hours because of a frustrating hidden character that got inserted in a string that was executed in a Shell command. It was not possible to see it in the Pharo editor.
It was a CTRL-X at some point, here's the commit where I removed it: https://github.com/fuhrmanator/GitMiner/commit/0b1e564ba2c25fb9cf7dfa925b063...
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 15:49, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi
I have the impression that we can introduce hidden characters while typing code and this is a problem to me because we do not see them :) I got for example selhiddenf and it can lead to strange situations.
I will try to chase the key combinations that produce them and see how we can control and avoid this situation. If you find the key combination please let me know.
S. -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
-- Christopher Fuhrman, P.Eng., PhD
*Professeur au Département de génie logiciel et des technologies de l'informationÃTS (Ãcole de technologie supérieure)*
http://profs.etsmtl.ca/cfuhrman +1 514 396 8638 *L'ÃTS est une constituante de l'Université du Québec*
-- Christopher Fuhrman, P.Eng., PhD *Professeur au Département de génie logiciel et des technologies de l'informationÃTS (Ãcole de technologie supérieure)* http://profs.etsmtl.ca/cfuhrman +1 514 396 8638 *L'ÃTS est une constituante de l'Université du Québec*
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