Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] Re: Tools to Build Cog on Win32
I have a good [rough draft] start on very detailed (too detailed?) steps to properly install Cygwin and build the Cog VM on Windows. I just need to add preparing the image for first time use, etc...: http://book.pharo-project.org/book/Virtual-Machine/Building/BuildVMOnWindows... (I haven't started editing/revising yet). Anyway, if anyone could help me properly position my two topics, "Cog VM" and "Traditional (Squeak) VM" underneath "The MS-Windows way," I would greatly appreciated it. Although they are subsections, they are fully "unindented" like a chapter in the table of contents... Thank you, Rob On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:12 AM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell@gmail.com>wrote:
Disregard! I have found the magic incantation and even got Pharo 1.1 running in a VM compiled on my own!
Cool, this is waiting for you :) http://book.pharo-project.org/book/Virtual-Machine/Building/BuildVMOnWindows...
Laurent
I will try to type up the formula for others to follow in terms of installing cygwin and the required tools.
Thank you,
Rob
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell@gmail.com>wrote:
Is there some way to package the tools required to build Cog similar to the Squeak-Win32-Tools package that is available for the standard Squeak VM?
I just don't seem to be savvy enough to choose all the proper cygwin options. I DID manage to get subversion loaded in cygwin and check out the sources, but I am sure I am doing the wrong thing by installing the 1.7.5 version of cygwin since HowToBuild references 1.5.24. Plus, I just can't seem to get the right gcc...I keep getting "gcc: The -mno-cygwin flag has been removed; use a mingq-targeted cross-compiler," and I just can't seem to get the right installation options selected in the "Devel" section.
So...either a prebuilt bundle or very specific instructions for mere mortals would be very helpful! It would be nice to keep up with the fixes; this VM made a HUGE difference in some Binaural Beat generation code I have that writes very large audio files. I can actually fork the code now and keep using the image with very good responsiveness! Amazing!
Thanks for any help,
Rob
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell@gmail.com>wrote:
I have a good [rough draft] start on very detailed (too detailed?) steps to properly install Cygwin and build the Cog VM on Windows. I just need to add preparing the image for first time use, etc...:
http://book.pharo-project.org/book/Virtual-Machine/Building/BuildVMOnWindows...
Thank you !! (I haven't started editing/revising yet).
Anyway, if anyone could help me properly position my two topics, "Cog VM" and "Traditional (Squeak) VM" underneath "The MS-Windows way," I would greatly appreciated it. Although they are subsections, they are fully "unindented" like a chapter in the table of contents...
It seems someone has done it ... Anyway, to move a page, click on the 'Move' link in the command line and the choose the parent section. Laurent
Thank you,
Rob
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:12 AM, laurent laffont < laurent.laffont@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell@gmail.com>wrote:
Disregard! I have found the magic incantation and even got Pharo 1.1 running in a VM compiled on my own!
Cool, this is waiting for you :) http://book.pharo-project.org/book/Virtual-Machine/Building/BuildVMOnWindows...
Laurent
I will try to type up the formula for others to follow in terms of installing cygwin and the required tools.
Thank you,
Rob
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell@gmail.com>wrote:
Is there some way to package the tools required to build Cog similar to the Squeak-Win32-Tools package that is available for the standard Squeak VM?
I just don't seem to be savvy enough to choose all the proper cygwin options. I DID manage to get subversion loaded in cygwin and check out the sources, but I am sure I am doing the wrong thing by installing the 1.7.5 version of cygwin since HowToBuild references 1.5.24. Plus, I just can't seem to get the right gcc...I keep getting "gcc: The -mno-cygwin flag has been removed; use a mingq-targeted cross-compiler," and I just can't seem to get the right installation options selected in the "Devel" section.
So...either a prebuilt bundle or very specific instructions for mere mortals would be very helpful! It would be nice to keep up with the fixes; this VM made a HUGE difference in some Binaural Beat generation code I have that writes very large audio files. I can actually fork the code now and keep using the image with very good responsiveness! Amazing!
Thanks for any help,
Rob
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:11 AM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont@gmail.com>wrote: It seems someone has done it ... Anyway, to move a page, click on the 'Move'
link in the command line and the choose the parent section.
The section is right, but on the table of contents, it looks like this: 2.0 Virtual-Machine 2.1 Building 2.1.1 The GNU/Linux way 2.1.2 The Mac OSX way 2.1.3 The MS-Windows way 2.1.3.1 Cog VM 2.1.3.2 Traditional (Squeak) VM 2.1.4 VMMaker Instead of this: 2.0 Virtual-Machine 2.1 Building 2.1.1 The GNU/Linux way 2.1.2 The Mac OSX way 2.1.3 The MS-Windows way 2.1.3.1 Cog VM 2.1.3.2 Traditional (Squeak) VM 2.1.4 VMMaker (See attached graphic) I also have some "lost diagrams" that I do not know how to get back to--I know I created something incorrectly and it is "in the system" somewhere, but I don't know how to find it and delete it... Thanks, Rob
Yes, and there's another problem too. When you try to change the order of a group of sections it *seems* to do it but then you hit refresh and nothing has changed at all. Regards, Javier. On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:11 AM, laurent laffont < laurent.laffont@gmail.com> wrote:
It seems someone has done it ... Anyway, to move a page, click on the
'Move' link in the command line and the choose the parent section.
The section is right, but on the table of contents, it looks like this:
2.0 Virtual-Machine 2.1 Building 2.1.1 The GNU/Linux way 2.1.2 The Mac OSX way 2.1.3 The MS-Windows way 2.1.3.1 Cog VM 2.1.3.2 Traditional (Squeak) VM 2.1.4 VMMaker
Instead of this:
2.0 Virtual-Machine 2.1 Building 2.1.1 The GNU/Linux way 2.1.2 The Mac OSX way 2.1.3 The MS-Windows way 2.1.3.1 Cog VM 2.1.3.2 Traditional (Squeak) VM 2.1.4 VMMaker
(See attached graphic)
I also have some "lost diagrams" that I do not know how to get back to--I know I created something incorrectly and it is "in the system" somewhere, but I don't know how to find it and delete it...
Thanks,
Rob
-- Javier Pimás Ciudad de Buenos Aires
Any Suggestions? Maybe rebuild a new Chapter completely from scratch and copy the content? I don't have any experience with this... Rob On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Javier Pimás <elpochodelagente@gmail.com>wrote:
Yes, and there's another problem too. When you try to change the order of a group of sections it *seems* to do it but then you hit refresh and nothing has changed at all.
Regards, Javier.
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:11 AM, laurent laffont < laurent.laffont@gmail.com> wrote:
It seems someone has done it ... Anyway, to move a page, click on the
'Move' link in the command line and the choose the parent section.
The section is right, but on the table of contents, it looks like this:
2.0 Virtual-Machine 2.1 Building 2.1.1 The GNU/Linux way 2.1.2 The Mac OSX way 2.1.3 The MS-Windows way 2.1.3.1 Cog VM 2.1.3.2 Traditional (Squeak) VM 2.1.4 VMMaker
Instead of this:
2.0 Virtual-Machine 2.1 Building 2.1.1 The GNU/Linux way 2.1.2 The Mac OSX way 2.1.3 The MS-Windows way 2.1.3.1 Cog VM 2.1.3.2 Traditional (Squeak) VM 2.1.4 VMMaker
(See attached graphic)
I also have some "lost diagrams" that I do not know how to get back to--I know I created something incorrectly and it is "in the system" somewhere, but I don't know how to find it and delete it...
Thanks,
Rob
-- Javier Pimás Ciudad de Buenos Aires
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell@gmail.com>wrote:
Any Suggestions?
send a separate thread to Pharo mailing list, with a accurate subject, and cc Tudor Girba cheers mariano
Maybe rebuild a new Chapter completely from scratch and copy the content? I don't have any experience with this...
Rob
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Javier Pimás <elpochodelagente@gmail.com>wrote:
Yes, and there's another problem too. When you try to change the order of a group of sections it *seems* to do it but then you hit refresh and nothing has changed at all.
Regards, Javier.
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:11 AM, laurent laffont < laurent.laffont@gmail.com> wrote:
It seems someone has done it ... Anyway, to move a page, click on the
'Move' link in the command line and the choose the parent section.
The section is right, but on the table of contents, it looks like this:
2.0 Virtual-Machine 2.1 Building 2.1.1 The GNU/Linux way 2.1.2 The Mac OSX way 2.1.3 The MS-Windows way 2.1.3.1 Cog VM 2.1.3.2 Traditional (Squeak) VM 2.1.4 VMMaker
Instead of this:
2.0 Virtual-Machine 2.1 Building 2.1.1 The GNU/Linux way 2.1.2 The Mac OSX way 2.1.3 The MS-Windows way 2.1.3.1 Cog VM 2.1.3.2 Traditional (Squeak) VM 2.1.4 VMMaker
(See attached graphic)
I also have some "lost diagrams" that I do not know how to get back to--I know I created something incorrectly and it is "in the system" somewhere, but I don't know how to find it and delete it...
Thanks,
Rob
-- Javier Pimás Ciudad de Buenos Aires
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell@gmail.com>wrote:
Any Suggestions?
send a separate thread to Pharo mailing list, with a accurate subject, and cc Tudor Girba
cheers
mariano
Maybe rebuild a new Chapter completely from scratch and copy the content? I don't have any experience with this...
Rob
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Javier Pimás <elpochodelagente@gmail.com>wrote:
Yes, and there's another problem too. When you try to change the order of a group of sections it *seems* to do it but then you hit refresh and nothing has changed at all.
Regards, Javier.
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:11 AM, laurent laffont < laurent.laffont@gmail.com> wrote:
It seems someone has done it ... Anyway, to move a page, click on the
'Move' link in the command line and the choose the parent section.
The section is right, but on the table of contents, it looks like this:
2.0 Virtual-Machine 2.1 Building 2.1.1 The GNU/Linux way 2.1.2 The Mac OSX way 2.1.3 The MS-Windows way 2.1.3.1 Cog VM 2.1.3.2 Traditional (Squeak) VM 2.1.4 VMMaker
Instead of this:
2.0 Virtual-Machine 2.1 Building 2.1.1 The GNU/Linux way 2.1.2 The Mac OSX way 2.1.3 The MS-Windows way 2.1.3.1 Cog VM 2.1.3.2 Traditional (Squeak) VM 2.1.4 VMMaker
(See attached graphic)
I also have some "lost diagrams" that I do not know how to get back to--I know I created something incorrectly and it is "in the system" somewhere, but I don't know how to find it and delete it...
Thanks,
Rob
-- Javier Pimás Ciudad de Buenos Aires
Hi, The problem was in the CSS. It is fixed now. Cheers, Doru On 2 Jul 2010, at 10:33, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell@gmail.com> wrote:
Any Suggestions?
send a separate thread to Pharo mailing list, with a accurate subject, and cc Tudor Girba
cheers
mariano
Maybe rebuild a new Chapter completely from scratch and copy the content? I don't have any experience with this...
Rob
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Javier Pimás <elpochodelagente@gmail.com
wrote:
Yes, and there's another problem too. When you try to change the order of a group of sections it *seems* to do it but then you hit refresh and nothing has changed at all.
Regards, Javier.
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:11 AM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont@gmail.com
wrote:
It seems someone has done it ... Anyway, to move a page, click on the 'Move' link in the command line and the choose the parent section.
The section is right, but on the table of contents, it looks like this:
2.0 Virtual-Machine 2.1 Building 2.1.1 The GNU/Linux way 2.1.2 The Mac OSX way 2.1.3 The MS-Windows way 2.1.3.1 Cog VM 2.1.3.2 Traditional (Squeak) VM 2.1.4 VMMaker
Instead of this:
2.0 Virtual-Machine 2.1 Building 2.1.1 The GNU/Linux way 2.1.2 The Mac OSX way 2.1.3 The MS-Windows way 2.1.3.1 Cog VM 2.1.3.2 Traditional (Squeak) VM 2.1.4 VMMaker
(See attached graphic)
I also have some "lost diagrams" that I do not know how to get back to--I know I created something incorrectly and it is "in the system" somewhere, but I don't know how to find it and delete it...
Thanks,
Rob
-- Javier Pimás Ciudad de Buenos Aires
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On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell@gmail.com>wrote:
I have a good [rough draft] start on very detailed (too detailed?) steps to properly install Cygwin and build the Cog VM on Windows. I just need to add preparing the image for first time use, etc...:
http://book.pharo-project.org/book/Virtual-Machine/Building/BuildVMOnWindows...
This is really great! I am glad to have created an user for you :) Thank you a lot Mariano
(I haven't started editing/revising yet).
Anyway, if anyone could help me properly position my two topics, "Cog VM" and "Traditional (Squeak) VM" underneath "The MS-Windows way," I would greatly appreciated it. Although they are subsections, they are fully "unindented" like a chapter in the table of contents...
Thank you,
Rob
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:12 AM, laurent laffont < laurent.laffont@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell@gmail.com>wrote:
Disregard! I have found the magic incantation and even got Pharo 1.1 running in a VM compiled on my own!
Cool, this is waiting for you :) http://book.pharo-project.org/book/Virtual-Machine/Building/BuildVMOnWindows...
Laurent
I will try to type up the formula for others to follow in terms of installing cygwin and the required tools.
Thank you,
Rob
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell@gmail.com>wrote:
Is there some way to package the tools required to build Cog similar to the Squeak-Win32-Tools package that is available for the standard Squeak VM?
I just don't seem to be savvy enough to choose all the proper cygwin options. I DID manage to get subversion loaded in cygwin and check out the sources, but I am sure I am doing the wrong thing by installing the 1.7.5 version of cygwin since HowToBuild references 1.5.24. Plus, I just can't seem to get the right gcc...I keep getting "gcc: The -mno-cygwin flag has been removed; use a mingq-targeted cross-compiler," and I just can't seem to get the right installation options selected in the "Devel" section.
So...either a prebuilt bundle or very specific instructions for mere mortals would be very helpful! It would be nice to keep up with the fixes; this VM made a HUGE difference in some Binaural Beat generation code I have that writes very large audio files. I can actually fork the code now and keep using the image with very good responsiveness! Amazing!
Thanks for any help,
Rob
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 4:00 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck@gmail.com> wrote: This is really great! I am glad to have created an user for you :)
Not having innate Squeak "HowTo" coursing through my veins like so many of the experts here, I have always threatened to fix my biggest complaint with Smalltalk in general and the Squeak "line of products" specifically: no help! Things seem to be moving in the right direction; maybe I can help out a bit... Thanks, Rob
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