[Pharo-project] New much faster Pharo based on 10379
I've just uploaded a new Pharo image. It is much faster now, but you won't get the package browsing (only the category browsing). http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download For all the people who found Pharo slow, please tell me what you think of this one ! -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry
On Jul 18, 2009, at 8:55 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
I've just uploaded a new Pharo image. It is much faster now, but you won't get the package browsing (only the category browsing).
http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download
For all the people who found Pharo slow, please tell me what you think of this one !
funnily enough I cannot program with this browser. So I will load the OBpackage one and wait that it gets faster. Stef
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can you disable the annotation pane too? Could you also load the packageBrowser so that we can pick the other one too? May be put also the highPerformance on I would also remove the optional buttons because they just take space. (You see I can also be dogmatic). I imgaine that the roundcorner could be disable too to gain some cycles too. Stef On Jul 18, 2009, at 8:55 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
I've just uploaded a new Pharo image. It is much faster now, but you won't get the package browsing (only the category browsing).
http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download
For all the people who found Pharo slow, please tell me what you think of this one !
-- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
"Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry
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On Jul 18, 2009, at 10:28 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
can you disable the annotation pane too?
+1
Could you also load the packageBrowser so that we can pick the other one too? May be put also the highPerformance on
This preference should be removed. It does not increase performance, rather to the contrary it may make the image slower as it increases the number of screen update cycles. Adrian
I would also remove the optional buttons because they just take space. (You see I can also be dogmatic).
I imgaine that the roundcorner could be disable too to gain some cycles too. Stef
On Jul 18, 2009, at 8:55 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
I've just uploaded a new Pharo image. It is much faster now, but you won't get the package browsing (only the category browsing).
http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download
For all the people who found Pharo slow, please tell me what you think of this one !
-- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
"Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry
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On Jul 18, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
On Jul 18, 2009, at 10:28 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
can you disable the annotation pane too?
+1
Could you also load the packageBrowser so that we can pick the other one too? May be put also the highPerformance on
This preference should be removed. It does not increase performance, rather to the contrary it may make the image slower as it increases the number of screen update cycles.
Arghhhh trapped again I spotted some other obsolete preferences.
Adrian
I would also remove the optional buttons because they just take space. (You see I can also be dogmatic).
I imgaine that the roundcorner could be disable too to gain some cycles too. Stef
On Jul 18, 2009, at 8:55 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
I've just uploaded a new Pharo image. It is much faster now, but you won't get the package browsing (only the category browsing).
http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download
For all the people who found Pharo slow, please tell me what you think of this one !
-- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
"Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry
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can you disable the annotation pane too?
Yeah, the annotation pane is extremely slow. I never use it myself.
Could you also load the packageBrowser so that we can pick the other one too?
I don't think that would work with the code that is used in the image Damien created. The OB code in this image does not contain the slow extra checks that were hacked into the core code to make the package browser functioning. Furthermore the normal browser is not really useable if the package browser is loaded, because menu items are missing and strangely positioned to the point it is not useable anymore. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
OK then we should ask david if - he addressed the check removal - found the problems with the menus? david? Stef On Jul 18, 2009, at 11:00 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
can you disable the annotation pane too?
Yeah, the annotation pane is extremely slow. I never use it myself.
Could you also load the packageBrowser so that we can pick the other one too?
I don't think that would work with the code that is used in the image Damien created. The OB code in this image does not contain the slow extra checks that were hacked into the core code to make the package browser functioning. Furthermore the normal browser is not really useable if the package browser is loaded, because menu items are missing and strangely positioned to the point it is not useable anymore.
Lukas
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Stef, I think you are making a very good case for the wiki page on feartures and performance. Some of these tradeoffs are too individual to be properly addressed in a few downloads. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 3:29 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] New much faster Pharo based on 10379 can you disable the annotation pane too? Could you also load the packageBrowser so that we can pick the other one too? May be put also the highPerformance on I would also remove the optional buttons because they just take space. (You see I can also be dogmatic). I imgaine that the roundcorner could be disable too to gain some cycles too. Stef On Jul 18, 2009, at 8:55 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
I've just uploaded a new Pharo image. It is much faster now, but you won't get the package browsing (only the category browsing).
http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download
For all the people who found Pharo slow, please tell me what you think of this one !
-- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
"Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry
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On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:
can you disable the annotation pane too? Could you also load the packageBrowser so that we can pick the other one too?
Ok. I tested and is MUCH faster for me. I think this will be a good step. People (and mostly newbies) will be able to just download a image and this will be faster enougth. I also thing that having also the packageBrowser loaded is a good thing so that anyone who want can use it.
May be put also the highPerformance on I would also remove the optional buttons because they just take space. (You see I can also be dogmatic).
I imgaine that the roundcorner could be disable too to gain some cycles too. Stef
On Jul 18, 2009, at 8:55 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
I've just uploaded a new Pharo image. It is much faster now, but you won't get the package browsing (only the category browsing).
http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download
For all the people who found Pharo slow, please tell me what you think of this one !
-- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
"Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry
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I downloaded it, and used it "randomly" and it considerably faster than the previous version. Thanks for the improvement. ps: I got some errors while looking for senders, for example looking at the senders of #asArray and clicking on some of the senders. Regards, -- Esteban.
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com>wrote:
I downloaded it, and used it "randomly" and it considerably faster than the previous version.
Thanks for the improvement.
Actually, as I understand there was no improvment but identified and removed the slow stuff.
ps: I got some errors while looking for senders, for example looking at the senders of #asArray and clicking on some of the senders.
please, describe a bit more the problem and if necessary create a ticket in: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list best, Mariano
Regards,
-- Esteban.
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Yes it was speedup also (henrik optimisation) but not as much as we want Stef On Jul 19, 2009, at 1:48 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com
wrote: I downloaded it, and used it "randomly" and it considerably faster than the previous version.
Thanks for the improvement.
Actually, as I understand there was no improvment but identified and removed the slow stuff.
ps: I got some errors while looking for senders, for example looking at the senders of #asArray and clicking on some of the senders.
please, describe a bit more the problem and if necessary create a ticket in: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list
best,
Mariano
Regards,
-- Esteban.
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On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Esteban A. Maringolo<emaringolo@gmail.com> wrote:
I got some errors while looking for senders, for example looking at the senders of #asArray and clicking on some of the senders.
Could you please open a bug report with detailed information on how to reproduce? -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry
It "feels" snappier. No benchmarks... and only about 1.5 hours worth of use coding/browsing (on the non-web version 09.07.3). Better. I like it. Thanks Damien, Cam PS: I have never used this browser before (OK, briefly in squeak), so a few icons are not-obvious to me. Category searching seems to work with several key-strokes if typed quickly... or else I am getting lucky. So I guess it is quite satisfactory. On Jul 18, 2009, at 2:55 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
I've just uploaded a new Pharo image. It is much faster now, but you won't get the package browsing (only the category browsing).
http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download
For all the people who found Pharo slow, please tell me what you think of this one !
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Adrian Lienhard -
Cameron Sanders -
Damien Cassou -
Esteban A. Maringolo -
Lukas Renggli -
Mariano Martinez Peck -
Schwab,Wilhelm K -
Stéphane Ducasse