[Pharo-project] OBDependencyWalker for Pharo
2009/8/12 <csrabak@bol.com.br>
In my attempt to install OBDependencyWalker in Pharo beta #10413, I discovered that it triggers DNUs because #theClass is no longer available in this image version.
I could not find easily the rationale for stripping the method.
Is this a known fact and OBDependencyWalker should be modified, or #theClass needs to be reinstated?
Hi have also opened a ticket a couple of days ago about a DNU theClass. See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1059 Best, Mariano
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Mariano and everybody when you open a ticket please - make sure that we know if this is for the OB version of a tools or not - send a clear mail to the list Stef On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:11 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
2009/8/12 <csrabak@bol.com.br> In my attempt to install OBDependencyWalker in Pharo beta #10413, I discovered that it triggers DNUs because #theClass is no longer available in this image version.
I could not find easily the rationale for stripping the method.
Is this a known fact and OBDependencyWalker should be modified, or #theClass needs to be reinstated?
Hi have also opened a ticket a couple of days ago about a DNU theClass.
See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1059
Best,
Mariano
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On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:
Mariano and everybody when you open a ticket please - make sure that we know if this is for the OB version of a tools or not
Stef: con can I know this?
- send a clear mail to the list
I already sent an email a week ago with that but ticket but no responses.
Stef
On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:11 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
2009/8/12 <csrabak@bol.com.br> In my attempt to install OBDependencyWalker in Pharo beta #10413, I discovered that it triggers DNUs because #theClass is no longer available in this image version.
I could not find easily the rationale for stripping the method.
Is this a known fact and OBDependencyWalker should be modified, or #theClass needs to be reinstated?
Hi have also opened a ticket a couple of days ago about a DNU theClass.
See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1059
Best,
Mariano
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If you use an OB based browser. Stef On Aug 13, 2009, at 2:58 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote: Mariano and everybody when you open a ticket please - make sure that we know if this is for the OB version of a tools or not
Stef: con can I know this?
- send a clear mail to the list
I already sent an email a week ago with that but ticket but no responses.
Stef
On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:11 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
2009/8/12 <csrabak@bol.com.br> In my attempt to install OBDependencyWalker in Pharo beta #10413, I discovered that it triggers DNUs because #theClass is no longer available in this image version.
I could not find easily the rationale for stripping the method.
Is this a known fact and OBDependencyWalker should be modified, or #theClass needs to be reinstated?
Hi have also opened a ticket a couple of days ago about a DNU theClass.
See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1059
Best,
Mariano
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On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
If you use an OB based browser.
I am using the default system browser of the PharoBeta. I attach this information in the ticket.
Stef
On Aug 13, 2009, at 2:58 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote: Mariano and everybody when you open a ticket please - make sure that we know if this is for the OB version of a tools or not
Stef: con can I know this?
- send a clear mail to the list
I already sent an email a week ago with that but ticket but no responses.
Stef
On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:11 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
2009/8/12 <csrabak@bol.com.br> In my attempt to install OBDependencyWalker in Pharo beta #10413, I discovered that it triggers DNUs because #theClass is no longer available in this image version.
I could not find easily the rationale for stripping the method.
Is this a known fact and OBDependencyWalker should be modified, or #theClass needs to be reinstated?
Hi have also opened a ticket a couple of days ago about a DNU theClass.
See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1059
Best,
Mariano
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Hello there, I cannot reproduce the installation problem in #10413. To install DW with the OmniBrowser support in a clean Pharo #10413 just doIt the following: ScriptLoader loadOBAlpha. Installer ss project: 'DependencyWalker'; install: 'DependencyWalker'; install: 'OBDependencyWalker'; install: 'DWTraitsFix'. let me know if you find errors with that procedure. Hernán 2009/8/12 <csrabak@bol.com.br>:
In my attempt to install OBDependencyWalker in Pharo beta #10413, I discovered that it triggers DNUs because #theClass is no longer available in this image version.
I could not find easily the rationale for stripping the method.
Is this a known fact and OBDependencyWalker should be modified, or #theClass needs to be reinstated?
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Hi csrabak, Thanks for the feedback. I wonder how you've installed the DW? Anyone else experimented this trouble? That MNU is fine, the problem is that message should never be sent to an OBInheritanceDependencyNode. Please note the two leftmost panes (columns) in the DependencyBrowser contains system categories or "packages", not classes. So I've tried to reproduce your problem with the three OB installations from Pharo: ScriptLoader loadOB. ScriptLoader loadSuperOB. ScriptLoader loadOBAlpha. selected every system category, gathering all dependencies in your Pharo version, and still cannot find that MNU. Can you provide me further details about it? Are you using latest OmniBrowser? Have you installed the DependencyBrowser with the script of my previous e-mail? This is happening when you select a particular package? Have you installed additional OB packages? Cheers, Hernán 2009/8/13 <csrabak@bol.com.br>:
It is not an instalallation problem. It is an execution problem. . . Fire DW and select any class in left pane it will show a "Gathering..." dialog and then MNU: OBInheritanceDependencyNode doesn't understand theClass. . .
Em 13/08/2009 01:28, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com > escreveu:
Hello there, I cannot reproduce the installation problem in #10413. To install DW with the OmniBrowser support in a clean Pharo #10413 just doIt the following:
ScriptLoader loadOBAlpha. Installer ss project: 'DependencyWalker'; install: 'DependencyWalker'; install: 'OBDependencyWalker'; install: 'DWTraitsFix'.
let me know if you find errors with that procedure.
Hernán
2009/8/12 :
In my attempt to install OBDependencyWalker in Pharo beta #10413, I discovered that it triggers DNUs because #theClass is no longer available in this image version.
I could not find easily the rationale for stripping the method.
Is this a known fact and OBDependencyWalker should be modified, or #theClass needs to be reinstated? > ;
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Em 13/08/2009 21:34, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> escreveu:
Hi csrabak, Thanks for the feedback. I wonder how you've installed the DW?
I followed http://cs.hernanmorales.com.ar/projects/dependencyBrowser/DBrowser-fr.php (Overture Pharo) tab (but I bet you _knew_ that ;-)! Notice I installed on Pharo1.0beta image. . . and use only "default" settings. . .
Anyone else experimented this trouble?
This is something I cannot answer :-(
That MNU is fine, the problem is that message should never be sent to an OBInheritanceDependencyNode. Please note the two leftmost panes (columns) in the DependencyBrowser contains system categories or "packages", not classes. So I've tried to reproduce your problem with the three OB installations from Pharo:
ScriptLoader loadOB. ScriptLoader loadSuperOB. ScriptLoader loadOBAlpha.
selected every system category, gathering all dependencies in your Pharo version, and still cannot find that MNU. Can you provide me further details about it?
Are you using latest OmniBrowser?
I do supose so as at the time I wrote the e-mail I had the image uptodate (#10413).
Have you installed the DependencyBrowser with the script of my previous e-mail?
I ran the script of your page.
This is happening when you select a particular package?
Any package will do, but to stick to a simple one I click in "OmniBrowser" and kaboom!
Have you installed additional OB packages?
I lost the control of what is considered "aditional" wrt to OB. So I attach the browser of the image I'm testing it: HTH -- Cesar Rabak
Oh, that page was obsolete sorry about that, working with PHP pages is so... fuckin horrible! However that's not the issue here. I need to do a little research to see why the Dependency Browser breaks with mysterious OB stuff? I will update the repository as soon as I find the cause. Thanks for reporting Hernán 2009/8/13 <csrabak@bol.com.br>:
Em 13/08/2009 21:34, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> escreveu:
Hi csrabak, Thanks for the feedback. I wonder how you've installed the DW?
I followed http://cs.hernanmorales.com.ar/projects/dependencyBrowser/DBrowser-fr.php (Overture Pharo) tab (but I bet you _knew_ that ;-)!
Notice I installed on Pharo1.0beta image. . . and use only "default" settings. . .
Anyone else experimented this trouble?
This is something I cannot answer :-(
That MNU is fine, the problem is that message should never be sent to an OBInheritanceDependencyNode. Please note the two leftmost panes (columns) in the DependencyBrowser contains system categories or "packages", not classes. So I've tried to reproduce your problem with the three OB installations from Pharo:
ScriptLoader loadOB. ScriptLoader loadSuperOB. ScriptLoader loadOBAlpha.
selected every system category, gathering all dependencies in your Pharo version, and still cannot find that MNU. Can you provide me further details about it?
Are you using latest OmniBrowser?
I do supose so as at the time I wrote the e-mail I had the image uptodate (#10413).
Have you installed the DependencyBrowser with the script of my previous e-mail?
I ran the script of your page.
This is happening when you select a particular package?
Any package will do, but to stick to a simple one I click in "OmniBrowser" and kaboom!
Have you installed additional OB packages?
I lost the control of what is considered "aditional" wrt to OB. So I attach the browser of the image I'm testing it:
HTH
-- Cesar Rabak
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apparently there was a change in OB and it would be good to understand because we have some open issues that are related to that. Stef
Oh, that page was obsolete sorry about that, working with PHP pages is so... fuckin horrible! However that's not the issue here. I need to do a little research to see why the Dependency Browser breaks with mysterious OB stuff? I will update the repository as soon as I find the cause. Thanks for reporting
Hernán
2009/8/13 <csrabak@bol.com.br>:
Em 13/08/2009 21:34, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> escreveu:
Hi csrabak, Thanks for the feedback. I wonder how you've installed the DW?
I followed http://cs.hernanmorales.com.ar/projects/dependencyBrowser/DBrowser-fr.php (Overture Pharo) tab (but I bet you _knew_ that ;-)!
Notice I installed on Pharo1.0beta image. . . and use only "default" settings. . .
Anyone else experimented this trouble?
This is something I cannot answer :-(
That MNU is fine, the problem is that message should never be sent to an OBInheritanceDependencyNode. Please note the two leftmost panes (columns) in the DependencyBrowser contains system categories or "packages", not classes. So I've tried to reproduce your problem with the three OB installations from Pharo:
ScriptLoader loadOB. ScriptLoader loadSuperOB. ScriptLoader loadOBAlpha.
selected every system category, gathering all dependencies in your Pharo version, and still cannot find that MNU. Can you provide me further details about it?
Are you using latest OmniBrowser?
I do supose so as at the time I wrote the e-mail I had the image uptodate (#10413).
Have you installed the DependencyBrowser with the script of my previous e-mail?
I ran the script of your page.
This is happening when you select a particular package?
Any package will do, but to stick to a simple one I click in "OmniBrowser" and kaboom!
Have you installed additional OB packages?
I lost the control of what is considered "aditional" wrt to OB. So I attach the browser of the image I'm testing it:
HTH
-- Cesar Rabak
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Ok, I found this could be related with an OB installation using this script: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ImageBuildScripts I've loaded "AST", "Refactoring", "OmniBrowser" and "Tools". Then loaded the DependencyBrowser, selected a package and gotcha, the #theClass MNU was raised. However I wasn't able to debug it (please see the attachement), the stack isn't displayed in the debugger and some operations (Out, Over, etc) hang the image and I have interrupt with Alt+. Cheers Hernán 2009/8/14 Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>:
apparently there was a change in OB and it would be good to understand because we have some open issues that are related to that.
Stef
Oh, that page was obsolete sorry about that, working with PHP pages is so... fuckin horrible! However that's not the issue here. I need to do a little research to see why the Dependency Browser breaks with mysterious OB stuff? I will update the repository as soon as I find the cause. Thanks for reporting
Hernán
2009/8/13 Â <csrabak@bol.com.br>:
Em 13/08/2009 21:34, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> escreveu:
Hi csrabak, Thanks for the feedback. I wonder how you've installed the DW?
I followed http://cs.hernanmorales.com.ar/projects/dependencyBrowser/DBrowser-fr.php  (Overture Pharo) tab (but I bet you _knew_ that ;-)!
Notice I installed on Pharo1.0beta image. . . and use only "default" settings. . .
Anyone else experimented this trouble?
This is something I cannot answer :-(
That MNU is fine, the problem is that message should never be sent to an OBInheritanceDependencyNode. Please note the two leftmost panes (columns) in the DependencyBrowser contains system categories or "packages", not classes. So I've tried to reproduce your problem with the three OB installations from Pharo:
ScriptLoader loadOB. ScriptLoader loadSuperOB. ScriptLoader loadOBAlpha.
selected every system category, gathering all dependencies in your Pharo version, and still cannot find that MNU. Can you provide me further details about it?
Are you using latest OmniBrowser?
I do supose so as at the time I wrote the e-mail I had the image uptodate (#10413).
Have you installed the DependencyBrowser with the script of my previous e-mail?
I ran the script of your page.
This is happening when you select a particular package?
Any package will do, but to stick to a simple one I click in "OmniBrowser" and kaboom!
Have you installed additional OB packages?
I lost the control of what is considered "aditional" wrt to OB. So I attach the browser of the image I'm testing it:
HTH
-- Cesar Rabak
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Hi Cesar, Please update to the latest version of the DependencyBrowser. I was using a ClassSortFilter for filtering packages (which is wrong), and there are two different implementations of this message from David and Lukas: OBClassSortFilter>>nodesFrom:forNode: The one from David was preventing to send #theClass classNodes := nodes select: [ :ea | ea respondsTo: #theClass ]. but I don't know which one is the right one, the implementation from Lukas is newer and usually his releases works pretty fine. Recently Colin posted another OB version, I hope the work done in OB gets a better coordination, it would be such a sad thing to have good incompatible versions of the framework. Cheers, Hernán 2009/8/14 <csrabak@bol.com.br>:
Hernán,
I also don't have the expertise to debug it, but could you get more info if you put a #theClass method in OBClassSort with a sefl halt on it?
It will avoid the sending of messages upstream in the "food chain"...
Em 14/08/2009 09:05, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com > escreveu:
Ok, I found this could be related with an OB installation using this script: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ImageBuildScripts I've loaded "AST", "Refactoring", "OmniBrowser" and "Tools". Then loaded the DependencyBrowser, selected a package and gotcha, the #theClass MNU was raised. However I wasn't able to debug it (please see the attachement), the stack isn't displayed in the debugger and some operations (Out, Over, etc) hang the image and I have interrupt with Alt+. Cheers
Hernán
2009/8/14 Stéphane Ducasse :
apparently there was a change in OB and it would be good to understand because we have some open issues that are related to that.
Stef
Oh, that page was obsolete sorry about that, working with PHP pages is &g t; so... fuckin horrible! However that's not the issue here. I need to do a little research to see why the Dependency Browser breaks with mysterious OB stuff? I will update the repository as soon as I find the cause. Thanks for reporting
Hernán
2009/8/13 Â :
Em 13/08/2009 21:34, Hernán Morales Durand escreveu:
Hi csrabak, Thanks for the feedback. I wonder how you've installed the DW?
I followed http://cs.hernanmorales.com.ar/projects/dependencyBrowser/DBrowser-fr.php  (Overture Pharo) tab (but I bet you _knew_ that ;-)!
Notice I installed on Pharo1.0beta image. . . and use only "default" settings. . .
Anyone else experi mented this trouble?
This is something I cannot answer :-(
That MNU is fine, the problem is that message should never be sent to an OBInheritanceDependencyNode. Please note the two leftmost panes (columns) in the DependencyBrowser contains system categories or "packages", not classes. So I've tried to reproduce your problem with the three OB installations from Pharo:
ScriptLoader loadOB. ScriptLoader loadSuperOB. ScriptLoader loadOBAlpha.
selected every system category, gathering all dependencies in your Pharo version, and still cannot find that MNU. Can you provide me further details about it?
Are you using latest OmniBrowser?
I do supose so as at the time I wrote the e-mail I had the image uptodate (#10413).
Have you installed the DependencyBrowser with the script of my previous e-mail?
I ran the script of your page.
This is happening when you select a particular package?
Any package will do, but to stick to a simple one I click in "OmniBrowser" and kaboom!
Have you installed additional OB packages?
I lost the control of what is considered "aditional" wrt to OB. So I attach the browser of the image I'm testing it:
HTH
-- Cesar Rabak
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I imagine that david did that because he could not touch the code. I hope that with the new OB release things will get clarified and better. Stef On Aug 15, 2009, at 3:11 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
Hi Cesar, Please update to the latest version of the DependencyBrowser. I was using a ClassSortFilter for filtering packages (which is wrong), and there are two different implementations of this message from David and Lukas:
OBClassSortFilter>>nodesFrom:forNode:
The one from David was preventing to send #theClass
classNodes := nodes select: [ :ea | ea respondsTo: #theClass ].
but I don't know which one is the right one, the implementation from Lukas is newer and usually his releases works pretty fine. Recently Colin posted another OB version, I hope the work done in OB gets a better coordination, it would be such a sad thing to have good incompatible versions of the framework. Cheers,
Hernán
2009/8/14 <csrabak@bol.com.br>:
Hernán,
I also don't have the expertise to debug it, but could you get more info if you put a #theClass method in OBClassSort with a sefl halt on it?
It will avoid the sending of messages upstream in the "food chain"...
Em 14/08/2009 09:05, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com > escreveu:
Ok, I found this could be related with an OB installation using this script: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ImageBuildScripts I've loaded "AST", "Refactoring", "OmniBrowser" and "Tools". Then loaded the DependencyBrowser, selected a package and gotcha, the #theClass MNU was raised. However I wasn't able to debug it (please see the attachement), the stack isn't displayed in the debugger and some operations (Out, Over, etc) hang the image and I have interrupt with Alt+. Cheers
Hernán
2009/8/14 Stéphane Ducasse :
apparently there was a change in OB and it would be good to understand because we have some open issues that are related to that.
Stef
Oh, that page was obsolete sorry about that, working with PHP pages is &g t; so... fuckin horrible! However that's not the issue here. I need to do a little research to see why the Dependency Browser breaks with mysterious OB stuff? I will update the repository as soon as I find the cause. Thanks for reporting
Hernán
2009/8/13 :
Em 13/08/2009 21:34, Hernán Morales Durand escreveu:
Hi csrabak, Thanks for the feedback. I wonder how you've installed the DW?
I followed http://cs.hernanmorales.com.ar/projects/dependencyBrowser/DBrowser-fr.php (Overture Pharo) tab (but I bet you _knew_ that ;-)!
Notice I installed on Pharo1.0beta image. . . and use only "default" settings. . .
Anyone else experi mented this trouble?
This is something I cannot answer :-(
That MNU is fine, the problem is that message should never be sent to an OBInheritanceDependencyNode. Please note the two leftmost panes (columns) in the DependencyBrowser contains system categories or "packages", not classes. So I've tried to reproduce your problem with the three OB installations from Pharo:
ScriptLoader loadOB. ScriptLoader loadSuperOB. ScriptLoader loadOBAlpha.
selected every system category, gathering all dependencies in your Pharo version, and still cannot find that MNU. Can you provide me further details about it?
Are you using latest OmniBrowser?
I do supose so as at the time I wrote the e-mail I had the image uptodate (#10413).
Have you installed the DependencyBrowser with the script of my previous e-mail?
I ran the script of your page.
This is happening when you select a particular package?
Any package will do, but to stick to a simple one I click in "OmniBrowser" and kaboom!
Have you installed additional OB packages?
I lost the control of what is considered "aditional" wrt to OB. So I attach the browser of the image I'm testing it:
HTH
-- Cesar Rabak
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Hernán: I would like to use this tools to detect dependencies between packages and with that write the metacello configurations for Pharo. Do you know how can I manage to install it in the latests 1.0 dev image? thanks mariano On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
I imagine that david did that because he could not touch the code. I hope that with the new OB release things will get clarified and better.
Stef
On Aug 15, 2009, at 3:11 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
Hi Cesar, Please update to the latest version of the DependencyBrowser. I was using a ClassSortFilter for filtering packages (which is wrong), and there are two different implementations of this message from David and Lukas:
OBClassSortFilter>>nodesFrom:forNode:
The one from David was preventing to send #theClass
classNodes := nodes select: [ :ea | ea respondsTo: #theClass ].
but I don't know which one is the right one, the implementation from Lukas is newer and usually his releases works pretty fine. Recently Colin posted another OB version, I hope the work done in OB gets a better coordination, it would be such a sad thing to have good incompatible versions of the framework. Cheers,
Hernán
2009/8/14 <csrabak@bol.com.br>:
Hernán,
I also don't have the expertise to debug it, but could you get more info if you put a #theClass method in OBClassSort with a sefl halt on it?
It will avoid the sending of messages upstream in the "food chain"...
Em 14/08/2009 09:05, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com > escreveu:
Ok, I found this could be related with an OB installation using this script: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ImageBuildScripts I've loaded "AST", "Refactoring", "OmniBrowser" and "Tools". Then loaded the DependencyBrowser, selected a package and gotcha, the #theClass MNU was raised. However I wasn't able to debug it (please see the attachement), the stack isn't displayed in the debugger and some operations (Out, Over, etc) hang the image and I have interrupt with Alt+. Cheers
Hernán
2009/8/14 Stéphane Ducasse :
apparently there was a change in OB and it would be good to understand because we have some open issues that are related to that.
Stef
Oh, that page was obsolete sorry about that, working with PHP pages is &g t; so... fuckin horrible! However that's not the issue here. I need to do a little research to see why the Dependency Browser breaks with mysterious OB stuff? I will update the repository as soon as I find the cause. Thanks for reporting
Hernán
2009/8/13 :
Em 13/08/2009 21:34, Hernán Morales Durand escreveu:
Hi csrabak, Thanks for the feedback. I wonder how you've installed the DW?
I followed
http://cs.hernanmorales.com.ar/projects/dependencyBrowser/DBrowser-fr.php
(Overture Pharo) tab (but I bet you _knew_ that ;-)!
Notice I installed on Pharo1.0beta image. . . and use only "default" settings. . .
Anyone else experi mented this trouble?
This is something I cannot answer :-(
That MNU is fine, the problem is that message should never be sent to an OBInheritanceDependencyNode. Please note the two leftmost panes (columns) in the DependencyBrowser contains system categories or "packages", not classes. So I've tried to reproduce your problem with the three OB installations from Pharo:
ScriptLoader loadOB. ScriptLoader loadSuperOB. ScriptLoader loadOBAlpha.
selected every system category, gathering all dependencies in your Pharo version, and still cannot find that MNU. Can you provide me further details about it?
Are you using latest OmniBrowser?
I do supose so as at the time I wrote the e-mail I had the image uptodate (#10413).
Have you installed the DependencyBrowser with the script of my previous e-mail?
I ran the script of your page.
This is happening when you select a particular package?
Any package will do, but to stick to a simple one I click in "OmniBrowser" and kaboom!
Have you installed additional OB packages?
I lost the control of what is considered "aditional" wrt to OB. So I attach the browser of the image I'm testing it:
HTH
-- Cesar Rabak
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Hi Mariano, To install the Dependency Browser in the 1.0 dev image, please evaluate: Gofer new squeaksource: 'DependencyWalker'; package: 'DependencyWalker'; package: 'OBDependencyWalker'; package: 'DWTraitsFix'; load; recompile. and then open from the world menu, Tools -> More -> Dependency Browser Cheers, Hernán 2009/12/26 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>:
Hernán: I would like to use this tools to detect dependencies between packages and with that write the metacello configurations for Pharo.
Do you know how can I manage to install it in the latests 1.0 dev image?
thanks
mariano
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
I imagine that david did that because he could not touch the code. I hope that with the new OB release things will get clarified and better.
Stef
On Aug 15, 2009, at 3:11 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
Hi Cesar, Â Please update to the latest version of the DependencyBrowser. I was using a ClassSortFilter for filtering packages (which is wrong), and there are two different implementations of this message from David and Lukas:
OBClassSortFilter>>nodesFrom:forNode:
The one from David was preventing to send #theClass
   classNodes := nodes select: [ :ea | ea respondsTo: #theClass ].
but I don't know which one is the right one, the implementation from Lukas is newer and usually his releases works pretty fine. Recently Colin posted another OB version, I hope the work done in OB gets a better coordination, it would be such a sad thing to have good incompatible versions of the framework. Cheers,
Hernán
2009/8/14 Â <csrabak@bol.com.br>:
Hernán,
I also don't have the expertise to debug it, but could you get more info if you put a #theClass method in OBClassSort with a sefl halt on it?
It will avoid the sending of messages upstream in the "food chain"...
Em 14/08/2009 09:05, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com > escreveu:
Ok, I found this could be related with an OB installation using this script: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ImageBuildScripts I've loaded "AST", "Refactoring", "OmniBrowser" and "Tools". Then loaded the DependencyBrowser, selected a package and gotcha, the #theClass MNU was raised. However I wasn't able to debug it (please see the attachement), the stack isn't displayed in the debugger and some operations (Out, Over, etc) hang the image and I have interrupt with Alt+. Cheers
Hernán
2009/8/14 Stéphane Ducasse :
apparently there was a change in OB and it would be good to understand because we have some open issues that are related to that.
Stef
Oh, that page was obsolete sorry about that, working with PHP pages is &g t; so... fuckin horrible! However that's not the issue here. I need to do a little research to see why the Dependency Browser breaks with mysterious OB stuff? I will update the repository as soon as I find the cause. Thanks for reporting
Hernán
2009/8/13 Â :
Em 13/08/2009 21:34, Hernán Morales Durand escreveu:
Hi csrabak, Thanks for the feedback. I wonder how you've installed the DW?
I followed
http://cs.hernanmorales.com.ar/projects/dependencyBrowser/DBrowser-fr.php  (Overture Pharo) tab (but I bet you _knew_ that ;-)!
Notice I installed on Pharo1.0beta image. . . and use only "default" settings. . .
Anyone else experi mented this trouble?
This is something I cannot answer :-(
That MNU is fine, the problem is that message should never be sent to an OBInheritanceDependencyNode. Please note the two leftmost panes (columns) in the DependencyBrowser contains system categories or "packages", not classes. So I've tried to reproduce your problem with the three OB installations from Pharo:
ScriptLoader loadOB. ScriptLoader loadSuperOB. ScriptLoader loadOBAlpha.
selected every system category, gathering all dependencies in your Pharo version, and still cannot find that MNU. Can you provide me further details about it?
Are you using latest OmniBrowser?
I do supose so as at the time I wrote the e-mail I had the image uptodate (#10413).
Have you installed the DependencyBrowser with the script of my previous e-mail?
I ran the script of your page.
This is happening when you select a particular package?
Any package will do, but to stick to a simple one I click in "OmniBrowser" and kaboom!
Have you installed additional OB packages?
I lost the control of what is considered "aditional" wrt to OB. So I attach the browser of the image I'm testing it:
HTH
-- Cesar Rabak
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