[Pharo-project] maybe a stupid question :)
I mean "pharo" is "pharo core"
Is Linux only the Kernel? No. You have a Linux version (distro) and the kernel version.
and "pharo dev" is just pharo+packages loaded
Pharo-dev is what is distributed by default and typically called "Pharo". Similar to the platform and loaded packages in Eclipse or the linux kernel with loaded packages to form a Linux system. Bye T. -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01
On 14 May 2010 21:36, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de> wrote:
I mean "pharo" is "pharo core"
Is Linux only the Kernel? No. You have a Linux version (distro) and the kernel version.
and "pharo dev" is just pharo+packages loaded
Pharo-dev is what is distributed by default and typically called "Pharo". Similar to the platform and loaded packages in Eclipse or the linux kernel with loaded packages to form a Linux system.
My 2c. I think that the difference here is that Pharo-Core maintained by Pharo team and under their direct responsibility, while Pharo-dev includes various packages, which is maintained separately. Pharo team, of course having a strong influence on Pharo-dev shape, but main focus is core.
Bye T.
-- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
Hi, This was decided a long time ago: - PharoCore is PharoCore - PharoDev is Pharo (and from now on, perhaps it would be great to not talk about PharoDev anymore) So, Pharo is PharoDev. In fact, only for very few people will PharoCore be interesting. For most, Pharo(Dev) it is the interesting part. Cheers, Doru On 14 May 2010, at 20:48, Igor Stasenko wrote:
On 14 May 2010 21:36, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de> wrote:
I mean "pharo" is "pharo core"
Is Linux only the Kernel? No. You have a Linux version (distro) and the kernel version.
and "pharo dev" is just pharo+packages loaded
Pharo-dev is what is distributed by default and typically called "Pharo". Similar to the platform and loaded packages in Eclipse or the linux kernel with loaded packages to form a Linux system.
My 2c.
I think that the difference here is that Pharo-Core maintained by Pharo team and under their direct responsibility, while Pharo-dev includes various packages, which is maintained separately.
Pharo team, of course having a strong influence on Pharo-dev shape, but main focus is core.
Bye T.
-- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
-- www.tudorgirba.com "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen."
way back then there was a thread about not calling Pharo what we should not call it.... but we have as a group consistently failed to do this. i would suggest that if people can't drop using *it*, then we have to give up. it is very difficult doing such brand management in an online group. we should be aware that Pharo is a specific brand we are trying to maintain. we can't control what comes out of folks keyboards.... thanks Mike On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
This was decided a long time ago: - PharoCore is PharoCore - PharoDev is Pharo (and from now on, perhaps it would be great to not talk about PharoDev anymore)
So, Pharo is PharoDev. In fact, only for very few people will PharoCore be interesting. For most, Pharo(Dev) it is the interesting part.
Cheers, Doru
On 14 May 2010, at 20:48, Igor Stasenko wrote:
On 14 May 2010 21:36, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de> wrote:
I mean "pharo" is "pharo core"
Is Linux only the Kernel? No. You have a Linux version (distro) and the kernel version.
and "pharo dev" is just pharo+packages loaded
Pharo-dev is what is distributed by default and typically called "Pharo". Similar to the platform and loaded packages in Eclipse or the linux kernel with loaded packages to form a Linux system.
My 2c.
I think that the difference here is that Pharo-Core maintained by Pharo team and under their direct responsibility, while Pharo-dev includes various packages, which is maintained separately.
Pharo team, of course having a strong influence on Pharo-dev shape, but main focus is core.
Bye T.
-- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen."
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
true On May 17, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Michael Roberts wrote:
way back then there was a thread about not calling Pharo what we should not call it.... but we have as a group consistently failed to do this. i would suggest that if people can't drop using *it*, then we have to give up. it is very difficult doing such brand management in an online group. we should be aware that Pharo is a specific brand we are trying to maintain. we can't control what comes out of folks keyboards....
thanks Mike
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
This was decided a long time ago: - PharoCore is PharoCore - PharoDev is Pharo (and from now on, perhaps it would be great to not talk about PharoDev anymore)
So, Pharo is PharoDev. In fact, only for very few people will PharoCore be interesting. For most, Pharo(Dev) it is the interesting part.
Cheers, Doru
On 14 May 2010, at 20:48, Igor Stasenko wrote:
On 14 May 2010 21:36, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de> wrote:
I mean "pharo" is "pharo core"
Is Linux only the Kernel? No. You have a Linux version (distro) and the kernel version.
and "pharo dev" is just pharo+packages loaded
Pharo-dev is what is distributed by default and typically called "Pharo". Similar to the platform and loaded packages in Eclipse or the linux kernel with loaded packages to form a Linux system.
My 2c.
I think that the difference here is that Pharo-Core maintained by Pharo team and under their direct responsibility, while Pharo-dev includes various packages, which is maintained separately.
Pharo team, of course having a strong influence on Pharo-dev shape, but main focus is core.
Bye T.
-- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen."
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Looks like i missed that discussion.. As to me, its not really relevant what name you pick for it, its important what and how much effort you will put in it :) On 17 May 2010 22:16, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
true
On May 17, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Michael Roberts wrote:
way back then there was a thread about not calling Pharo what we should not call it.... but we have as a group consistently failed to do this. i would suggest that if people can't drop using *it*, then we have to give up. Â it is very difficult doing such brand management in an online group. we should be aware that Pharo is a specific brand we are trying to maintain. Â we can't control what comes out of folks keyboards....
thanks Mike
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
This was decided a long time ago: - PharoCore is PharoCore - PharoDev is Pharo (and from now on, perhaps it would be great to not talk about PharoDev anymore)
So, Pharo is PharoDev. In fact, only for very few people will PharoCore be interesting. For most, Pharo(Dev) it is the interesting part.
Cheers, Doru
On 14 May 2010, at 20:48, Igor Stasenko wrote:
On 14 May 2010 21:36, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de> wrote:
I mean "pharo" is "pharo core"
Is Linux only the Kernel? No. You have a Linux version (distro) and the kernel version.
and "pharo dev" is just pharo+packages loaded
Pharo-dev is what is distributed by default and typically called "Pharo". Similar to the platform and loaded packages in Eclipse or the linux kernel with loaded packages to form a Linux system.
My 2c.
I think that the difference here is that Pharo-Core maintained by Pharo team and under their direct responsibility, while Pharo-dev includes various packages, which is maintained separately.
Pharo team, of course having a strong influence on Pharo-dev shape, but main focus is core.
Bye T.
-- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen."
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
participants (5)
-
Igor Stasenko -
Michael Roberts -
Stéphane Ducasse -
Torsten Bergmann -
Tudor Girba