Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Re: [ANN] Demo with both Truetype +Polymorph
Marcus, I'm fairly certain the problem is in Redmond. It would not be the first thing they botched. I'm just annoyed with myself for not fingering them sooner. By all means though, newbies will encounter it, so protecting Windows from itself is probably a good move. Is Pharo going to adopt the one-click structure? On Windows, I do not much care. The VM "installs" trivially, and shortcuts are cheap. Shortcuts are not much more expensive on Linux, or maybe I haven't learned enough about how to skip steps on Linux. The VM is a little more trouble on Linux, but nothing I can't handle, and I'll gain familiarity as I go. All that said, since there is something that is brain-dead simple on the main platforms, I'm not too proud to use it ;) I do not much care whether we use it or not. If the plan is to do so, I can save myself some hassle sooner rather than later, but whatever you guys want to do is fine by me. Thanks! Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029
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On 22.09.2008, at 20:57, Andrew Tween wrote:
"Bill Schwab" <BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu> wrote in message
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Got it. My basic algorithm for finding problems usually starts with "what could Microsoft have done to screw this up?" I faltered. In this case, MS could have made a mockery of the file names in the archive, and that is apparently just what they did. I do not care for 7-Zip's user interface, but the engine works. It magically understood the archive (what's that word again, standards???<g>), unzipped all the files, and now everything works. Very impressive BTW.
That rings a bell. I had the same problem with the early Sophie releases. The Windows unzipper tried to create a folder and a file with the same name.
I reported the problem to the Sophie team, and with the most recent releases of Sophie, Windows can unzip it ok. Might be worth finding out how they got around the problem.
I think the problem is the Mac: the zip creates hidden files (starting with a dot, I think) for storing the resource fork of the old macos filesystem. I should create the zip differently... Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- denker@iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
On 22.09.2008, at 22:21, Bill Schwab wrote:
Marcus,
I'm fairly certain the problem is in Redmond. It would not be the first thing they botched. I'm just annoyed with myself for not fingering them sooner. By all means though, newbies will encounter it, so protecting Windows from itself is probably a good move.
Is Pharo going to adopt the one-click structure?
I would like to, yes. One thing that I think is hard is to explain newbies how to run squeak. You need to talk about Vms, source, changes, images that have noything to do with pictures... and mostly you need to discuss which image to use (like: don't use the one that is called "squeak", but instead an image from somewhere else called "squeak dev"). Much too complicated: you lose 50 % of the visitors that would check it out right there... Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- denker@iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker
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