Hi, I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them). Uko
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features. Uko On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
something is going bad with smalltalkhub, it is working in *really* slow motion, with a lot of packet loss, etc. Iâm trying to figure out what is happening, but not sure how much time it will take. Iâm sorry for the inconveniences :P Esteban On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:03, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:09, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
something is going bad with smalltalkhub, it is working in *really* slow motion, with a lot of packet loss, etc.
I think it just misses Nico badly :).
Iâm trying to figure out what is happening, but not sure how much time it will take. Iâm sorry for the inconveniences :P
Itâs ok (not really ok, but I was worried that everything is working fine, just my projects disappeared). Good luck! Uko
Esteban
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:03, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:16, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:09, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
something is going bad with smalltalkhub, it is working in *really* slow motion, with a lot of packet loss, etc.
I think it just misses Nico badly :).
:)
Iâm trying to figure out what is happening, but not sure how much time it will take. Iâm sorry for the inconveniences :P
Itâs ok (not really ok, but I was worried that everything is working fine, just my projects disappeared).
in the mean time, I restored your projects (but is still working slow without any obvious reason) Esteban
Good luck! Uko
Esteban
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:03, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:21, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:16, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:09, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
something is going bad with smalltalkhub, it is working in *really* slow motion, with a lot of packet loss, etc.
I think it just misses Nico badly :).
:)
Iâm trying to figure out what is happening, but not sure how much time it will take. Iâm sorry for the inconveniences :P
Itâs ok (not really ok, but I was worried that everything is working fine, just my projects disappeared).
in the mean time, I restored your projects (but is still working slow without any obvious reason)
Thank you!
Esteban
Good luck! Uko
Esteban
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:03, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
You donât have to. Just keep your configuration (here is a guide how to do it http://sleepycoders.blogspot.ch/2014/04/how-to-distribute-your-github-pharo....) on some monticello repo, and assemble your image on CI. Yes, if someone wantâs to modify your project they have to use git, but as far as I know, Pharo is slowly moving git way anyway :) Cheers. Uko On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:17, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
Well lately I have been questioning the need for configurations . I am considering doing only the second port of your blog post. Ask github for the latest release of my project , download it, unzip it and point pharo to the unziped directory. Then pharo can periodocally keep probing github to see if there is a new release and prompt the user for an update. All that with a single click from the user or even automagically. But I have to figure out how to do that with Pharo first :) On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
You donât have to. Just keep your configuration (here is a guide how to do it http://sleepycoders.blogspot.ch/2014/04/how-to-distribute-your-github-pharo....) on some monticello repo, and assemble your image on CI. Yes, if someone wantâs to modify your project they have to use git, but as far as I know, Pharo is slowly moving git way anyway :)
Cheers. Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:17, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
Iâm follower of "new day â new imageâ way :) Uko On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:48, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
Well lately I have been questioning the need for configurations . I am considering doing only the second port of your blog post. Ask github for the latest release of my project , download it, unzip it and point pharo to the unziped directory. Then pharo can periodocally keep probing github to see if there is a new release and prompt the user for an update. All that with a single click from the user or even automagically. But I have to figure out how to do that with Pharo first :)
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: You donât have to. Just keep your configuration (here is a guide how to do it http://sleepycoders.blogspot.ch/2014/04/how-to-distribute-your-github-pharo....) on some monticello repo, and assemble your image on CI. Yes, if someone wantâs to modify your project they have to use git, but as far as I know, Pharo is slowly moving git way anyway :)
Cheers. Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:17, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
I had jenkins job doing that :) But sadly, my server is now sleeping in a box since I moved out :) Ben On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:53, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Iâm follower of "new day â new imageâ way :)
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:48, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
Well lately I have been questioning the need for configurations . I am considering doing only the second port of your blog post. Ask github for the latest release of my project , download it, unzip it and point pharo to the unziped directory. Then pharo can periodocally keep probing github to see if there is a new release and prompt the user for an update. All that with a single click from the user or even automagically. But I have to figure out how to do that with Pharo first :)
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: You donât have to. Just keep your configuration (here is a guide how to do it http://sleepycoders.blogspot.ch/2014/04/how-to-distribute-your-github-pharo....) on some monticello repo, and assemble your image on CI. Yes, if someone wantâs to modify your project they have to use git, but as far as I know, Pharo is slowly moving git way anyway :)
Cheers. Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:17, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
I don't like it. First its not suitable for my project since my project contains python files as well. Second get 30 mbs image so you can get an additional few kbs sounds like an overkill. Forth what happens to the image you work already ? what if it contains code you want to keep ? send the user to the process of reimporting the code is not acceptable for me either. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Iâm follower of "new day â new imageâ way :)
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:48, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
Well lately I have been questioning the need for configurations . I am considering doing only the second port of your blog post. Ask github for the latest release of my project , download it, unzip it and point pharo to the unziped directory. Then pharo can periodocally keep probing github to see if there is a new release and prompt the user for an update. All that with a single click from the user or even automagically. But I have to figure out how to do that with Pharo first :)
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
You donât have to. Just keep your configuration (here is a guide how to do it http://sleepycoders.blogspot.ch/2014/04/how-to-distribute-your-github-pharo....) on some monticello repo, and assemble your image on CI. Yes, if someone wantâs to modify your project they have to use git, but as far as I know, Pharo is slowly moving git way anyway :)
Cheers. Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:17, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
Kilon, When working with git/github, you really don't need a configuration anymore ... the configuration functions more like tag than anything else. For day to day operations with git/github you only need a baseline[1]. The baseline just describes the package relationships and of course git manages the versions of the packages: baseline: spec <baseline> spec for: #common do: [ spec configuration: 'Seaside30' with: [ spec version: #stable; repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository' ]. spec package: 'Sample-Core'with: [ spec requires: 'Seaside30' ]; package: 'Sample-Tests' with: [ spec requires: 'Sample-Core' ]]. but there is no longer any need to track the version numbers of the individual mcz file. To load from a repository using a baseline you do the following: Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; load. This is very similar to using #bleedingEdge,but a lot safer, since presumably you are using travis-ci to run tests before anything gets merged into your master branch and of course all of the packages are versioned together. To refresh the version from the master branch you do the following: Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; get. Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; load. This is admittedly a bit awkward, but there has been a couple year lag between the time I did the basic implementation in support of git/github and the time that folks are finally becoming interested in actually using it:) So I have focussed on functionality instead or prettiness ... I will eventually get to the point where you can do:) Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; get; load. If you use a configuration, then the version method for the configuration would look like the following: version0900: spec <version: '0.9.0'> spec for: #'common' do: [ spec blessing: #'development'. spec description: 'initial work: first commit on custom branch'. spec author: 'dkh'. spec timestamp: '5/4/2012 14:16'. spec baseline: 'External' with: [ spec repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:1ac58502ade7814e1590f71d615cca434b1a4fd5/repository' ] ] So version 0.9.0 is simply a tag for a particular commit ... but within the Metacello eco-system this approach can be useful. Dale [1] https://github.com/dalehenrich/metacello-work/blob/master/docs/GettingStarte... On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:48 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
Well lately I have been questioning the need for configurations . I am considering doing only the second port of your blog post. Ask github for the latest release of my project , download it, unzip it and point pharo to the unziped directory. Then pharo can periodocally keep probing github to see if there is a new release and prompt the user for an update. All that with a single click from the user or even automagically. But I have to figure out how to do that with Pharo first :)
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
You donât have to. Just keep your configuration (here is a guide how to do it http://sleepycoders.blogspot.ch/2014/04/how-to-distribute-your-github-pharo....) on some monticello repo, and assemble your image on CI. Yes, if someone wantâs to modify your project they have to use git, but as far as I know, Pharo is slowly moving git way anyway :)
Cheers. Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:17, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
Hi Dale, I wonât agree that you donât need configuration. For me the main purpose of configuration is defining dependencies. And as far as I know we donât have any other alternative. Uko On 05 Aug 2014, at 17:21, Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
Kilon,
When working with git/github, you really don't need a configuration anymore ... the configuration functions more like tag than anything else.
For day to day operations with git/github you only need a baseline[1]. The baseline just describes the package relationships and of course git manages the versions of the packages:
baseline: spec <baseline> spec for: #common do: [ spec configuration: 'Seaside30' with: [ spec version: #stable; repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository' ]. spec package: 'Sample-Core'with: [ spec requires: 'Seaside30' ]; package: 'Sample-Tests' with: [ spec requires: 'Sample-Core' ]].
but there is no longer any need to track the version numbers of the individual mcz file.
To load from a repository using a baseline you do the following:
Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; load.
This is very similar to using #bleedingEdge,but a lot safer, since presumably you are using travis-ci to run tests before anything gets merged into your master branch and of course all of the packages are versioned together.
To refresh the version from the master branch you do the following:
Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; get. Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; load.
This is admittedly a bit awkward, but there has been a couple year lag between the time I did the basic implementation in support of git/github and the time that folks are finally becoming interested in actually using it:) So I have focussed on functionality instead or prettiness ... I will eventually get to the point where you can do:)
Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; get; load.
If you use a configuration, then the version method for the configuration would look like the following:
version0900: spec <version: '0.9.0'> spec for: #'common' do: [ spec blessing: #'development'. spec description: 'initial work: first commit on custom branch'. spec author: 'dkh'. spec timestamp: '5/4/2012 14:16'. spec baseline: 'External' with: [ spec repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:1ac58502ade7814e1590f71d615cca434b1a4fd5/repository' ] ]
So version 0.9.0 is simply a tag for a particular commit ... but within the Metacello eco-system this approach can be useful.
Dale
[1] https://github.com/dalehenrich/metacello-work/blob/master/docs/GettingStarte...
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:48 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote: Well lately I have been questioning the need for configurations . I am considering doing only the second port of your blog post. Ask github for the latest release of my project , download it, unzip it and point pharo to the unziped directory. Then pharo can periodocally keep probing github to see if there is a new release and prompt the user for an update. All that with a single click from the user or even automagically. But I have to figure out how to do that with Pharo first :)
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: You donât have to. Just keep your configuration (here is a guide how to do it http://sleepycoders.blogspot.ch/2014/04/how-to-distribute-your-github-pharo....) on some monticello repo, and assemble your image on CI. Yes, if someone wantâs to modify your project they have to use git, but as far as I know, Pharo is slowly moving git way anyway :)
Cheers. Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:17, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
Hey Uko, I guess I wasn't clear;( What is not needed when using git are the version methods with the painstaking records of the mcz version associated with each file ... A baseline is created by subclassing BaselineOf and adding a single baseline: method that contains the package/project dependencies. This BaselineOfXXX is saved directly in the repository along with the packages. You can poke around in my External project on GitHub[1] to see more detail. Dale [1] https://github.com/dalehenrich/external/tree/master/repository On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Hi Dale,
I wonât agree that you donât need configuration. For me the main purpose of configuration is defining dependencies. And as far as I know we donât have any other alternative.
Uko
On 05 Aug 2014, at 17:21, Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
Kilon,
When working with git/github, you really don't need a configuration anymore ... the configuration functions more like tag than anything else.
For day to day operations with git/github you only need a baseline[1]. The baseline just describes the package relationships and of course git manages the versions of the packages:
baseline: spec <baseline> spec for: #common do: [ spec configuration: 'Seaside30' with: [ spec version: #stable; repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository' ]. spec package: 'Sample-Core'with: [ spec requires: 'Seaside30' ]; package: 'Sample-Tests' with: [ spec requires: 'Sample-Core' ]].
but there is no longer any need to track the version numbers of the individual mcz file.
To load from a repository using a baseline you do the following:
Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; load.
This is very similar to using #bleedingEdge,but a lot safer, since presumably you are using travis-ci to run tests before anything gets merged into your master branch and of course all of the packages are versioned together.
To refresh the version from the master branch you do the following:
Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; get. Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; load.
This is admittedly a bit awkward, but there has been a couple year lag between the time I did the basic implementation in support of git/github and the time that folks are finally becoming interested in actually using it:) So I have focussed on functionality instead or prettiness ... I will eventually get to the point where you can do:)
Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; get; load.
If you use a configuration, then the version method for the configuration would look like the following:
version0900: spec <version: '0.9.0'> spec for: #'common' do: [ spec blessing: #'development'. spec description: 'initial work: first commit on custom branch'. spec author: 'dkh'. spec timestamp: '5/4/2012 14:16'. spec baseline: 'External' with: [ spec repository: ' github://dalehenrich/external:1ac58502ade7814e1590f71d615cca434b1a4fd5/repository' ] ]
So version 0.9.0 is simply a tag for a particular commit ... but within the Metacello eco-system this approach can be useful.
Dale
[1] https://github.com/dalehenrich/metacello-work/blob/master/docs/GettingStarte...
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:48 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
Well lately I have been questioning the need for configurations . I am considering doing only the second port of your blog post. Ask github for the latest release of my project , download it, unzip it and point pharo to the unziped directory. Then pharo can periodocally keep probing github to see if there is a new release and prompt the user for an update. All that with a single click from the user or even automagically. But I have to figure out how to do that with Pharo first :)
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
You donât have to. Just keep your configuration (here is a guide how to do it http://sleepycoders.blogspot.ch/2014/04/how-to-distribute-your-github-pharo....) on some monticello repo, and assemble your image on CI. Yes, if someone wantâs to modify your project they have to use git, but as far as I know, Pharo is slowly moving git way anyway :)
Cheers. Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:17, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
looks very interesting but I see you pull from a specific git commit , what if I wanted to pull from latest commit ? On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Dale Henrichs < dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
Hey Uko,
I guess I wasn't clear;(
What is not needed when using git are the version methods with the painstaking records of the mcz version associated with each file ...
A baseline is created by subclassing BaselineOf and adding a single baseline: method that contains the package/project dependencies. This BaselineOfXXX is saved directly in the repository along with the packages.
You can poke around in my External project on GitHub[1] to see more detail.
Dale
[1] https://github.com/dalehenrich/external/tree/master/repository
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Hi Dale,
I wonât agree that you donât need configuration. For me the main purpose of configuration is defining dependencies. And as far as I know we donât have any other alternative.
Uko
On 05 Aug 2014, at 17:21, Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
Kilon,
When working with git/github, you really don't need a configuration anymore ... the configuration functions more like tag than anything else.
For day to day operations with git/github you only need a baseline[1]. The baseline just describes the package relationships and of course git manages the versions of the packages:
baseline: spec <baseline> spec for: #common do: [ spec configuration: 'Seaside30' with: [ spec version: #stable; repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository' ]. spec package: 'Sample-Core'with: [ spec requires: 'Seaside30' ]; package: 'Sample-Tests' with: [ spec requires: 'Sample-Core' ]].
but there is no longer any need to track the version numbers of the individual mcz file.
To load from a repository using a baseline you do the following:
Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; load.
This is very similar to using #bleedingEdge,but a lot safer, since presumably you are using travis-ci to run tests before anything gets merged into your master branch and of course all of the packages are versioned together.
To refresh the version from the master branch you do the following:
Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; get. Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; load.
This is admittedly a bit awkward, but there has been a couple year lag between the time I did the basic implementation in support of git/github and the time that folks are finally becoming interested in actually using it:) So I have focussed on functionality instead or prettiness ... I will eventually get to the point where you can do:)
Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; get; load.
If you use a configuration, then the version method for the configuration would look like the following:
version0900: spec <version: '0.9.0'> spec for: #'common' do: [ spec blessing: #'development'. spec description: 'initial work: first commit on custom branch'. spec author: 'dkh'. spec timestamp: '5/4/2012 14:16'. spec baseline: 'External' with: [ spec repository: ' github://dalehenrich/external:1ac58502ade7814e1590f71d615cca434b1a4fd5/repository' ] ]
So version 0.9.0 is simply a tag for a particular commit ... but within the Metacello eco-system this approach can be useful.
Dale
[1] https://github.com/dalehenrich/metacello-work/blob/master/docs/GettingStarte...
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:48 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
Well lately I have been questioning the need for configurations . I am considering doing only the second port of your blog post. Ask github for the latest release of my project , download it, unzip it and point pharo to the unziped directory. Then pharo can periodocally keep probing github to see if there is a new release and prompt the user for an update. All that with a single click from the user or even automagically. But I have to figure out how to do that with Pharo first :)
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
You donât have to. Just keep your configuration (here is a guide how to do it http://sleepycoders.blogspot.ch/2014/04/how-to-distribute-your-github-pharo....) on some monticello repo, and assemble your image on CI. Yes, if someone wantâs to modify your project they have to use git, but as far as I know, Pharo is slowly moving git way anyway :)
Cheers. Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:17, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
Personally I think that the CofngurationOf is best used as a tag. You *can* specify any one of branch/SHA/tag in a ConfigurationOf ... So you can just reference the name of the branch instead of the SHA and you'll load the latest commit on that branch ... Dale On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
looks very interesting but I see you pull from a specific git commit , what if I wanted to pull from latest commit ?
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Dale Henrichs < dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
Hey Uko,
I guess I wasn't clear;(
What is not needed when using git are the version methods with the painstaking records of the mcz version associated with each file ...
A baseline is created by subclassing BaselineOf and adding a single baseline: method that contains the package/project dependencies. This BaselineOfXXX is saved directly in the repository along with the packages.
You can poke around in my External project on GitHub[1] to see more detail.
Dale
[1] https://github.com/dalehenrich/external/tree/master/repository
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Hi Dale,
I wonât agree that you donât need configuration. For me the main purpose of configuration is defining dependencies. And as far as I know we donât have any other alternative.
Uko
On 05 Aug 2014, at 17:21, Dale Henrichs < dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
Kilon,
When working with git/github, you really don't need a configuration anymore ... the configuration functions more like tag than anything else.
For day to day operations with git/github you only need a baseline[1]. The baseline just describes the package relationships and of course git manages the versions of the packages:
baseline: spec <baseline> spec for: #common do: [ spec configuration: 'Seaside30' with: [ spec version: #stable; repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository' ]. spec package: 'Sample-Core'with: [ spec requires: 'Seaside30' ]; package: 'Sample-Tests' with: [ spec requires: 'Sample-Core' ]].
but there is no longer any need to track the version numbers of the individual mcz file.
To load from a repository using a baseline you do the following:
Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; load.
This is very similar to using #bleedingEdge,but a lot safer, since presumably you are using travis-ci to run tests before anything gets merged into your master branch and of course all of the packages are versioned together.
To refresh the version from the master branch you do the following:
Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; get. Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; load.
This is admittedly a bit awkward, but there has been a couple year lag between the time I did the basic implementation in support of git/github and the time that folks are finally becoming interested in actually using it:) So I have focussed on functionality instead or prettiness ... I will eventually get to the point where you can do:)
Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; get; load.
If you use a configuration, then the version method for the configuration would look like the following:
version0900: spec <version: '0.9.0'> spec for: #'common' do: [ spec blessing: #'development'. spec description: 'initial work: first commit on custom branch'. spec author: 'dkh'. spec timestamp: '5/4/2012 14:16'. spec baseline: 'External' with: [ spec repository: ' github://dalehenrich/external:1ac58502ade7814e1590f71d615cca434b1a4fd5/repository' ] ]
So version 0.9.0 is simply a tag for a particular commit ... but within the Metacello eco-system this approach can be useful.
Dale
[1] https://github.com/dalehenrich/metacello-work/blob/master/docs/GettingStarte...
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:48 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
Well lately I have been questioning the need for configurations . I am considering doing only the second port of your blog post. Ask github for the latest release of my project , download it, unzip it and point pharo to the unziped directory. Then pharo can periodocally keep probing github to see if there is a new release and prompt the user for an update. All that with a single click from the user or even automagically. But I have to figure out how to do that with Pharo first :)
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
You donât have to. Just keep your configuration (here is a guide how to do it http://sleepycoders.blogspot.ch/2014/04/how-to-distribute-your-github-pharo....) on some monticello repo, and assemble your image on CI. Yes, if someone wantâs to modify your project they have to use git, but as far as I know, Pharo is slowly moving git way anyway :)
Cheers. Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:17, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
Great thats all I needed thanks ΣÏÎ¹Ï 6 ÎÏ Î³ 2014 1:00 Ï.μ., ο ÏÏήÏÏÎ·Ï "Dale Henrichs" < dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com> ÎγÏαÏε:
Personally I think that the CofngurationOf is best used as a tag. You *can* specify any one of branch/SHA/tag in a ConfigurationOf ...
So you can just reference the name of the branch instead of the SHA and you'll load the latest commit on that branch ...
Dale
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
looks very interesting but I see you pull from a specific git commit , what if I wanted to pull from latest commit ?
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Dale Henrichs < dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
Hey Uko,
I guess I wasn't clear;(
What is not needed when using git are the version methods with the painstaking records of the mcz version associated with each file ...
A baseline is created by subclassing BaselineOf and adding a single baseline: method that contains the package/project dependencies. This BaselineOfXXX is saved directly in the repository along with the packages.
You can poke around in my External project on GitHub[1] to see more detail.
Dale
[1] https://github.com/dalehenrich/external/tree/master/repository
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Hi Dale,
I wonât agree that you donât need configuration. For me the main purpose of configuration is defining dependencies. And as far as I know we donât have any other alternative.
Uko
On 05 Aug 2014, at 17:21, Dale Henrichs < dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
Kilon,
When working with git/github, you really don't need a configuration anymore ... the configuration functions more like tag than anything else.
For day to day operations with git/github you only need a baseline[1]. The baseline just describes the package relationships and of course git manages the versions of the packages:
baseline: spec <baseline> spec for: #common do: [ spec configuration: 'Seaside30' with: [ spec version: #stable; repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository' ]. spec package: 'Sample-Core'with: [ spec requires: 'Seaside30' ]; package: 'Sample-Tests' with: [ spec requires: 'Sample-Core' ]].
but there is no longer any need to track the version numbers of the individual mcz file.
To load from a repository using a baseline you do the following:
Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; load.
This is very similar to using #bleedingEdge,but a lot safer, since presumably you are using travis-ci to run tests before anything gets merged into your master branch and of course all of the packages are versioned together.
To refresh the version from the master branch you do the following:
Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; get. Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; load.
This is admittedly a bit awkward, but there has been a couple year lag between the time I did the basic implementation in support of git/github and the time that folks are finally becoming interested in actually using it:) So I have focussed on functionality instead or prettiness ... I will eventually get to the point where you can do:)
Metacello new baseline: 'External'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/external:master/repository'; get; load.
If you use a configuration, then the version method for the configuration would look like the following:
version0900: spec <version: '0.9.0'> spec for: #'common' do: [ spec blessing: #'development'. spec description: 'initial work: first commit on custom branch'. spec author: 'dkh'. spec timestamp: '5/4/2012 14:16'. spec baseline: 'External' with: [ spec repository: ' github://dalehenrich/external:1ac58502ade7814e1590f71d615cca434b1a4fd5/repository' ] ]
So version 0.9.0 is simply a tag for a particular commit ... but within the Metacello eco-system this approach can be useful.
Dale
[1] https://github.com/dalehenrich/metacello-work/blob/master/docs/GettingStarte...
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:48 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
Well lately I have been questioning the need for configurations . I am considering doing only the second port of your blog post. Ask github for the latest release of my project , download it, unzip it and point pharo to the unziped directory. Then pharo can periodocally keep probing github to see if there is a new release and prompt the user for an update. All that with a single click from the user or even automagically. But I have to figure out how to do that with Pharo first :)
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
You donât have to. Just keep your configuration (here is a guide how to do it http://sleepycoders.blogspot.ch/2014/04/how-to-distribute-your-github-pharo....) on some monticello repo, and assemble your image on CI. Yes, if someone wantâs to modify your project they have to use git, but as far as I know, Pharo is slowly moving git way anyway :)
Cheers. Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:17, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com
wrote:
Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 11:17, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this.
yeah, in the medium term, this is going to be the best path. We are working on provide better tools for using git and we feel this is the best path for pharo, in the no so far future :) (and honestly, I prefer to spend my time maintaining pharo and not smalltalkhub :P) Esteban
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
KIlon, If you use a a github reference in your configuration: github://username/projectname:commitish/repositoryDir Git is not required. Metacello will download a zipped version of the commitish referenced (a commitish is a branch name, SHA or tag name) and a read only filetree repository is created .... So folks should be able to use your project without installing git on their machine. Dale On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:17 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
Wow, I didnât know that. Nice On 05 Aug 2014, at 17:01, Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
KIlon,
If you use a a github reference in your configuration:
github://username/projectname:commitish/repositoryDir
Git is not required. Metacello will download a zipped version of the commitish referenced (a commitish is a branch name, SHA or tag name) and a read only filetree repository is created ....
So folks should be able to use your project without installing git on their machine.
Dale
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:17 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote: yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
I did not known neither. I will have a serious look at GitHub. Alexandre
Le 05-08-2014 à 11:13, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> a écrit :
Wow, I didnât know that. Nice
On 05 Aug 2014, at 17:01, Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
KIlon,
If you use a a github reference in your configuration:
github://username/projectname:commitish/repositoryDir
Git is not required. Metacello will download a zipped version of the commitish referenced (a commitish is a branch name, SHA or tag name) and a read only filetree repository is created ....
So folks should be able to use your project without installing git on their machine.
Dale
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:17 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote: yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
On 05 Aug 2014, at 17:01, Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
KIlon,
If you use a a github reference in your configuration:
github://username/projectname:commitish/repositoryDir
Git is not required. Metacello will download a zipped version of the commitish referenced (a commitish is a branch name, SHA or tag name) and a read only filetree repository is created ....
it is not required if you are not going to modify the projects, of course :) AFAIK⦠in your own projects, you will need the clone in disk (I suppose with filetree or gitfiletree)⦠Esteban
So folks should be able to use your project without installing git on their machine.
Dale
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:17 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote: yeah I will also move my latest project to github. I am already more active with github than I am in SThub anyway. The one thing that stopped me so far is that I don't want to force people to install git to get the latest version of my project. SThub is great for this.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Well, thankfully I keep all my latest projects on github, and I have configurations of them in the image. But CI is not working and anyway itâs a strange situation. Is there any other service where I can keep my configurations? Because thatâs the only thing I version with monticello are configurations as I want to use gofer to load my projects. And here reliability is much more important then other features.
Uko
On 04 Aug 2014, at 10:59, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
oh boy thats looks nasty bug, hope its not permanent.
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote: Hi,
I was on vacation last weak, have I missed anything? Because my SmaltalkHub user does not have any projects http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~YuriyTymchuk (and I had a bunch of them).
Uko
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
On 05 Aug 2014, at 17:01, Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
KIlon,
If you use a a github reference in your configuration:
github://username/projectname:commitish/repositoryDir
Git is not required. Metacello will download a zipped version of the commitish referenced (a commitish is a branch name, SHA or tag name) and a read only filetree repository is created ....
it is not required if you are not going to modify the projects, of course :) AFAIK⦠in your own projects, you will need the clone in disk (I suppose with filetree or gitfiletree)â¦
Yes you or anyone else that wants to contribute to the project needs to install git, but pure users of the code can use the projects without installing git ... Dale
thanks Dale this exactly what I wanted , you just made my day :) On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Dale Henrichs < dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
On 05 Aug 2014, at 17:01, Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
KIlon,
If you use a a github reference in your configuration:
github://username/projectname:commitish/repositoryDir
Git is not required. Metacello will download a zipped version of the commitish referenced (a commitish is a branch name, SHA or tag name) and a read only filetree repository is created ....
it is not required if you are not going to modify the projects, of course :) AFAIK⦠in your own projects, you will need the clone in disk (I suppose with filetree or gitfiletree)â¦
Yes you or anyone else that wants to contribute to the project needs to install git, but pure users of the code can use the projects without installing git ...
Dale
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