[Pharo-project] who is using softSqueak and standard Squeak
Hi guys just out of curiosity who is using SoftSqueak and Standard Squeak theme? I know that lukas like colored windows now may be specific new style with this behavior could be done? Stef
"Stéphane Ducasseâ wrote:
just out of curiosity who is using SoftSqueak and Standard Squeak theme? I know that lukas like colored windows now may be specific new style with this behavior could be done?
Hi, i use them and like them a lot. I also asked on the Squeak-List about the origins of colored windows and got an interesting response: http://forum.world.st/What-was-the-idea-behind-the-colorful-windows-td331532... Dan Ingalls on history of colorful windows.. Helene -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/who-is-using-softSqueak-and-standard-Squeak-tp3407241p... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Great link! I have never been a fan of the colored windows, with one glowing exception: clay rose (very subtle tint) really works for the debugger. Dan also mentioned graph paper. Ledger green is a nice background color for reading text. What I want to see is a clean way to set text editor background colors for the various tools. I have found mentions of a Shout style for same, but I have never found it. As a further argument in favor of backgrounds, if we were to adopt wx or some other native framework for our tools, the non-client areas would be drawn for us and therefore unchangeable. Tools would need to distinguish themselves by icon, background colors, and finally overall appearance. Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Helene Bilbo [thereluctantprogrammer@fastmail.fm] Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 8:20 AM To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] who is using softSqueak and standard Squeak "Stéphane Ducasseâ wrote:
just out of curiosity who is using SoftSqueak and Standard Squeak theme? I know that lukas like colored windows now may be specific new style with this behavior could be done?
Hi, i use them and like them a lot. I also asked on the Squeak-List about the origins of colored windows and got an interesting response: http://forum.world.st/What-was-the-idea-behind-the-colorful-windows-td331532... Dan Ingalls on history of colorful windows.. Helene -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/who-is-using-softSqueak-and-standard-Squeak-tp3407241p... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Yeah, I kind of liked the colored windows, but nowadays I got used to the mac look. Lukas On 26 March 2011 09:40, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi guys
just out of curiosity who is using SoftSqueak and Standard Squeak theme? I know that lukas like colored windows now may be specific new style with this behavior could be done?
Stef
-- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch
We could get a new colored one because if it helps people this can be good. Now I was jus wondering if we stay with these two endlessly. Stef On Mar 26, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
Yeah, I kind of liked the colored windows, but nowadays I got used to the mac look.
Lukas
On 26 March 2011 09:40, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi guys
just out of curiosity who is using SoftSqueak and Standard Squeak theme? I know that lukas like colored windows now may be specific new style with this behavior could be done?
Stef
-- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch
Hi, I vote to not keep them in the distribution. Perhaps there are a handful of people that use them, but this should be solvable by making the themes loadable. Cheers, Doru On 27 Mar 2011, at 09:39, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
We could get a new colored one because if it helps people this can be good. Now I was jus wondering if we stay with these two endlessly.
Stef
On Mar 26, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
Yeah, I kind of liked the colored windows, but nowadays I got used to the mac look.
Lukas
On 26 March 2011 09:40, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi guys
just out of curiosity who is using SoftSqueak and Standard Squeak theme? I know that lukas like colored windows now may be specific new style with this behavior could be done?
Stef
-- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch
-- www.tudorgirba.com "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal."
I definitely use them - I like being able to locate the windows instantly by colour. And a less practical reason is that the grey default themes always make me feel depressed. Programming shouldn't be grey and boring, it should be fun ;) A new, supported colourised theme would be a wonderful thing - particularly if there were settings to choose the colour scheme. I like the coloured windows so much that I've been tempted to go back to Squeak - right up until the overloaded world menu reminds me why I prefer Pharo. Regards, Stuart On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi guys
just out of curiosity who is using SoftSqueak and Standard Squeak theme? I know that lukas like colored windows now may be specific new style with this behavior could be done?
Stef
I definitely use them - I like being able to locate the windows instantly by colour. And a less practical reason is that the grey default themes always make me feel depressed. Programming shouldn't be grey and boring, it should be fun ;)
A new, supported colourised theme would be a wonderful thing - particularly if there were settings to choose the colour scheme. I like the coloured windows so much that I've been tempted to go back to Squeak - right up until the overloaded world menu reminds me why I prefer Pharo.
When I see how much code we cleaned.... I think that there should be soemthing else than the color. Stef
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:
When I see how much code we cleaned.... I think that there should be soemthing else than the color.
Stef
Yep, from my small experience making Sandcastles Themes, UIThemes are composed of colours, font and border styles, icon set, even UI layout (windows title area for example) AFAIK. BTW, I'm in favor of packaging themes outside of pharo but there should be an official place (repo) where one can list them. I'm thinking of something like http://art.gnome.org/themes. -- Patrick Barroca
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Patrick Barroca <patrick.barroca@gmail.com>wrote:
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
When I see how much code we cleaned.... I think that there should be soemthing else than the color.
Stef
Yep, from my small experience making Sandcastles Themes, UIThemes are composed of colours, font and border styles, icon set, even UI layout (windows title area for example) AFAIK.
BTW, I'm in favor of packaging themes outside of pharo but there should be an official place (repo) where one can list them.
I'm thinking of something like http://art.gnome.org/themes.
We could just list them in http://book.pharo-project.org/ with a screenshot. Better: having settings loading them on the fly when we choose it like in KDE plasma preferences. Laurent.
-- Patrick Barroca
yes On Mar 29, 2011, at 9:29 AM, laurent laffont wrote:
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Patrick Barroca <patrick.barroca@gmail.com> wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
When I see how much code we cleaned.... I think that there should be soemthing else than the color.
Stef
Yep, from my small experience making Sandcastles Themes, UIThemes are composed of colours, font and border styles, icon set, even UI layout (windows title area for example) AFAIK.
BTW, I'm in favor of packaging themes outside of pharo but there should be an official place (repo) where one can list them.
I'm thinking of something like http://art.gnome.org/themes.
We could just list them in http://book.pharo-project.org/ with a screenshot.
Better: having settings loading them on the fly when we choose it like in KDE plasma preferences.
Laurent.
-- Patrick Barroca
Yes! Partick if you want to extend the default theme to add color please do. We can create a repo PharoThemes and we are done. I would really like to remove the standard squeak because it is terrible. I set it up since some updates and I cannot work with it anymore. Stef On Mar 29, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Patrick Barroca wrote:
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
When I see how much code we cleaned.... I think that there should be soemthing else than the color.
Stef
Yep, from my small experience making Sandcastles Themes, UIThemes are composed of colours, font and border styles, icon set, even UI layout (windows title area for example) AFAIK.
BTW, I'm in favor of packaging themes outside of pharo but there should be an official place (repo) where one can list them.
I'm thinking of something like http://art.gnome.org/themes.
-- Patrick Barroca
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:
Yes!
Partick if you want to extend the default theme to add color please do. We can create a repo PharoThemes and we are done. I would really like to remove the standard squeak because it is terrible. I set it up since some updates and I cannot work with it anymore.
Ok, I'll take a look at it. I'll try to make a default theme with the same color scheme as standard squeak. -- Patrick Barroca
My first look yesterday night taught me that different windows colour management is a basic behaviour of UITheme via #patchworkUIThemeColorFor:. If I simply subclass UITheme and do nothing more I get more or less a standard squeak theme with coloured windows minus some fills and borders styles.
From here I think I could try to make a simple theme with the look of Glamourous one with support for squeak windows colour management. Is this the right direction ?
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Patrick Barroca <patrick.barroca@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Yes!
Partick if you want to extend the default theme to add color please do. We can create a repo PharoThemes and we are done. I would really like to remove the standard squeak because it is terrible. I set it up since some updates and I cannot work with it anymore.
Ok, I'll take a look at it.
I'll try to make a default theme with the same color scheme as standard squeak.
-- Patrick Barroca
-- Patrick Barroca
On 30 Mar 2011, at 10:53, Patrick Barroca wrote:
My first look yesterday night taught me that different windows colour management is a basic behaviour of UITheme via #patchworkUIThemeColorFor:. If I simply subclass UITheme and do nothing more I get more or less a standard squeak theme with coloured windows minus some fills and borders styles.
From here I think I could try to make a simple theme with the look of Glamourous one with support for squeak windows colour management. Is this the right direction ?
If that would work, that would be great: simple & effective.
Patrick Barroca wrote:
My first look yesterday night taught me that different windows colour management is a basic behaviour of UITheme via #patchworkUIThemeColorFor:. If I simply subclass UITheme and do nothing more I get more or less a standard squeak theme with coloured windows minus some fills and borders styles.
From here I think I could try to make a simple theme with the look of Glamourous one with support for squeak windows colour management. Is this the right direction ?
I was toying around with this yesterday. I also found methods for setting the background of various UI elements in UITheme - but not yet for PluggableTextMorph.. Do you know if there is a way to change the background colors of PluggableTextMorph and OBPluggableTextMorph in UITheme? Or is there a way to change the background of all UI elements in one place? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/who-is-using-softSqueak-and-standard-Squeak-tp3407241p... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Le 30/03/2011 14:56, Helene Bilbo a écrit :
Patrick Barroca wrote:
My first look yesterday night taught me that different windows colour management is a basic behaviour of UITheme via #patchworkUIThemeColorFor:. If I simply subclass UITheme and do nothing more I get more or less a standard squeak theme with coloured windows minus some fills and borders styles.
From here I think I could try to make a simple theme with the look of Glamourous one with support for squeak windows colour management. Is this the right direction ?
I was toying around with this yesterday. I also found methods for setting the background of various UI elements in UITheme - but not yet for PluggableTextMorph.. Do you know if there is a way to change the background colors of PluggableTextMorph and OBPluggableTextMorph in UITheme? it is driven by: UITheme>>textEditorNormalFillStyleFor: aTextEditor UITheme>>textEditorDisabledFillStyleFor: aTextEditor ok in 1.3
Or is there a way to change the background of all UI elements in one place? afaik, not really. follow GLMUITheme class>>baseColor users, Only for the Glamour theme though.
Cheers Alain
-- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/who-is-using-softSqueak-and-standard-Squeak-tp3407241p... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
My first look yesterday night taught me that different windows colour management is a basic behaviour of UITheme via #patchworkUIThemeColorFor:. If I simply subclass UITheme and do nothing more I get more or less a standard squeak theme with coloured windows minus some fills and borders styles.
From here I think I could try to make a simple theme with the look of Glamourous one with support for squeak windows colour management. Is this the right direction ?
yes :) I plan to refactor/clean the theme package too. So if you have results let us know. Stef
Hello, Just to say that I have now a simple theme extending UITheme with the look of Glamourous and the support of squeak windows colour management. Since I worked in 1.2 I have yet to verify how this load in Pharo 1.3 and then I will publish it ;) On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:
My first look yesterday night taught me that different windows colour management is a basic behaviour of UITheme via #patchworkUIThemeColorFor:. If I simply subclass UITheme and do nothing more I get more or less a standard squeak theme with coloured windows minus some fills and borders styles.
From here I think I could try to make a simple theme with the look of Glamourous one with support for squeak windows colour management. Is this the right direction ?
yes :) I plan to refactor/clean the theme package too. So if you have results let us know.
Stef
-- Patrick Barroca
Thanks I want to rename, repackage, glamourous and remove the bubble oriented color squeak look and keep one old sq colored for now. On Apr 1, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Patrick Barroca wrote:
Hello,
Just to say that I have now a simple theme extending UITheme with the look of Glamourous and the support of squeak windows colour management.
Since I worked in 1.2 I have yet to verify how this load in Pharo 1.3 and then I will publish it ;)
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
My first look yesterday night taught me that different windows colour management is a basic behaviour of UITheme via #patchworkUIThemeColorFor:. If I simply subclass UITheme and do nothing more I get more or less a standard squeak theme with coloured windows minus some fills and borders styles.
From here I think I could try to make a simple theme with the look of Glamourous one with support for squeak windows colour management. Is this the right direction ?
yes :) I plan to refactor/clean the theme package too. So if you have results let us know.
Stef
-- Patrick Barroca
Hello, I published the theme on squeaksource, it loads in 1.2 and 1.3. Repo is http://www.squeaksource.com/PBASandbox I named it StandardUITheme, On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>wrote:
Thanks
I want to rename, repackage, glamourous and remove the bubble oriented color squeak look and keep one old sq colored for now. On Apr 1, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Patrick Barroca wrote:
Hello,
Just to say that I have now a simple theme extending UITheme with the look of Glamourous and the support of squeak windows colour management.
Since I worked in 1.2 I have yet to verify how this load in Pharo 1.3 and then I will publish it ;)
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
My first look yesterday night taught me that different windows colour management is a basic behaviour of UITheme via #patchworkUIThemeColorFor:. If I simply subclass UITheme and do nothing more I get more or less a standard squeak theme with coloured windows minus some fills and borders styles.
From here I think I could try to make a simple theme with the look of Glamourous one with support for squeak windows colour management. Is this the right direction ?
yes :) I plan to refactor/clean the theme package too. So if you have results let us know.
Stef
-- Patrick Barroca
-- Patrick Barroca
Thanks. I will remove the old theme and keep this one. Stef On Apr 2, 2011, at 1:24 AM, Patrick Barroca wrote:
Hello,
I published the theme on squeaksource, it loads in 1.2 and 1.3. Repo is http://www.squeaksource.com/PBASandbox
I named it StandardUITheme,
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote: Thanks
I want to rename, repackage, glamourous and remove the bubble oriented color squeak look and keep one old sq colored for now. On Apr 1, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Patrick Barroca wrote:
Hello,
Just to say that I have now a simple theme extending UITheme with the look of Glamourous and the support of squeak windows colour management.
Since I worked in 1.2 I have yet to verify how this load in Pharo 1.3 and then I will publish it ;)
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
My first look yesterday night taught me that different windows colour management is a basic behaviour of UITheme via #patchworkUIThemeColorFor:. If I simply subclass UITheme and do nothing more I get more or less a standard squeak theme with coloured windows minus some fills and borders styles.
From here I think I could try to make a simple theme with the look of Glamourous one with support for squeak windows colour management. Is this the right direction ?
yes :) I plan to refactor/clean the theme package too. So if you have results let us know.
Stef
-- Patrick Barroca
-- Patrick Barroca <PharoScreenshot.2.png>
Patrick, I think we should have a ConfigurationOfPharoThemes with all the themes you have made + current ones. I can help (may be a good subject for a our weekly coding-dojo) PharoCore should have only one theme I think. Laurent. On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>wrote:
Thanks. I will remove the old theme and keep this one.
Stef On Apr 2, 2011, at 1:24 AM, Patrick Barroca wrote:
Hello,
I published the theme on squeaksource, it loads in 1.2 and 1.3. Repo is http://www.squeaksource.com/PBASandbox
I named it StandardUITheme,
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote: Thanks
I want to rename, repackage, glamourous and remove the bubble oriented color squeak look and keep one old sq colored for now. On Apr 1, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Patrick Barroca wrote:
Hello,
Just to say that I have now a simple theme extending UITheme with the look of Glamourous and the support of squeak windows colour management.
Since I worked in 1.2 I have yet to verify how this load in Pharo 1.3 and then I will publish it ;)
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
My first look yesterday night taught me that different windows colour management is a basic behaviour of UITheme via #patchworkUIThemeColorFor:. If I simply subclass UITheme and do nothing more I get more or less a standard squeak theme with coloured windows minus some fills and borders styles.
From here I think I could try to make a simple theme with the look of Glamourous one with support for squeak windows colour management. Is this the right direction ?
yes :) I plan to refactor/clean the theme package too. So if you have results let us know.
Stef
-- Patrick Barroca
-- Patrick Barroca <PharoScreenshot.2.png>
"Stéphane Ducasseâ wrote:
I would really like to remove the standard squeak because it is terrible. I set it up since some updates and I cannot work with it anymore.
No, it is not terrible. It is very beautiful, and much more useful and innovative than for example fake-windows or fake-macos themes. People like me who came to Pharo after you forked from Squeak have no idea of your quarrels with the Squeak-Community (i only read it afterwards in the mailing-lists) and have therefore no problem with using the best from every implementation (the beautiful theme from squeak and the random refactorings from pharo ;) And while i would have no problem with loading the theme by hand â if i would remove themes it would not be the squeak theme.. Have a look at: http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/17/princeton-study-shows-that-easy-fonts-mak... Princeton study shows that easy fonts make things harder to remember: "Fortune favors the bold (and the Italicized)" -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/who-is-using-softSqueak-and-standard-Squeak-tp3407241p... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Hi helene this is not a question quarrels. I'm over that since some moment now. This is a question of removing/cleaning/organizing. So we will remove softSqueak and package it and save into the PharoTheme project so that people can load it if they want. I would like to get some beautiful looks that look like today standard. Stef On Mar 29, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Helene Bilbo wrote:
"Stéphane Ducasseâ wrote:
I would really like to remove the standard squeak because it is terrible. I set it up since some updates and I cannot work with it anymore.
No, it is not terrible. It is very beautiful, and much more useful and innovative than for example fake-windows or fake-macos themes. People like me who came to Pharo after you forked from Squeak have no idea of your quarrels with the Squeak-Community (i only read it afterwards in the mailing-lists) and have therefore no problem with using the best from every implementation (the beautiful theme from squeak and the random refactorings from pharo ;) And while i would have no problem with loading the theme by hand â if i would remove themes it would not be the squeak theme..
Have a look at: http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/17/princeton-study-shows-that-easy-fonts-mak... Princeton study shows that easy fonts make things harder to remember: "Fortune favors the bold (and the Italicized)"
-- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/who-is-using-softSqueak-and-standard-Squeak-tp3407241p... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
May be you should give a try to package them separately. Else I will give a try because to me they look a bit outdated. Stef On Mar 27, 2011, at 11:15 PM, Stuart Herring wrote:
I definitely use them - I like being able to locate the windows instantly by colour. And a less practical reason is that the grey default themes always make me feel depressed. Programming shouldn't be grey and boring, it should be fun ;)
A new, supported colourised theme would be a wonderful thing - particularly if there were settings to choose the colour scheme. I like the coloured windows so much that I've been tempted to go back to Squeak - right up until the overloaded world menu reminds me why I prefer Pharo.
Regards, Stuart
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi guys
just out of curiosity who is using SoftSqueak and Standard Squeak theme? I know that lukas like colored windows now may be specific new style with this behavior could be done?
Stef
Anyone who is going to touch my beloved standard squeak will be killed!!! Just kidding, but I still use it. However, IMO don't invest time in rewriting the UI for the 10th time! There is plenty of other things which are more important to get the language up to date. (^o^) camillo On 2011-03-28, at 21:56, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
May be you should give a try to package them separately. Else I will give a try because to me they look a bit outdated.
Stef
On Mar 27, 2011, at 11:15 PM, Stuart Herring wrote:
I definitely use them - I like being able to locate the windows instantly by colour. And a less practical reason is that the grey default themes always make me feel depressed. Programming shouldn't be grey and boring, it should be fun ;)
A new, supported colourised theme would be a wonderful thing - particularly if there were settings to choose the colour scheme. I like the coloured windows so much that I've been tempted to go back to Squeak - right up until the overloaded world menu reminds me why I prefer Pharo.
Regards, Stuart
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi guys
just out of curiosity who is using SoftSqueak and Standard Squeak theme? I know that lukas like colored windows now may be specific new style with this behavior could be done?
Stef
well UI is really important. We think about the clients of Moose for example. And when I see the video of NullPointer they look sexy Stef
Anyone who is going to touch my beloved standard squeak will be killed!!!
Just kidding, but I still use it. However, IMO don't invest time in rewriting the UI for the 10th time! There is plenty of other things which are more important to get the language up to date.
(^o^) camillo
On 2011-03-28, at 21:56, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
May be you should give a try to package them separately. Else I will give a try because to me they look a bit outdated.
Stef
On Mar 27, 2011, at 11:15 PM, Stuart Herring wrote:
I definitely use them - I like being able to locate the windows instantly by colour. And a less practical reason is that the grey default themes always make me feel depressed. Programming shouldn't be grey and boring, it should be fun ;)
A new, supported colourised theme would be a wonderful thing - particularly if there were settings to choose the colour scheme. I like the coloured windows so much that I've been tempted to go back to Squeak - right up until the overloaded world menu reminds me why I prefer Pharo.
Regards, Stuart
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi guys
just out of curiosity who is using SoftSqueak and Standard Squeak theme? I know that lukas like colored windows now may be specific new style with this behavior could be done?
Stef
+1 On 28 Mar 2011, at 23:09, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
well UI is really important. We think about the clients of Moose for example. And when I see the video of NullPointer they look sexy Stef
Anyone who is going to touch my beloved standard squeak will be killed!!!
Just kidding, but I still use it. However, IMO don't invest time in rewriting the UI for the 10th time! There is plenty of other things which are more important to get the language up to date.
(^o^) camillo
On 2011-03-28, at 21:56, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
May be you should give a try to package them separately. Else I will give a try because to me they look a bit outdated.
Stef
On Mar 27, 2011, at 11:15 PM, Stuart Herring wrote:
I definitely use them - I like being able to locate the windows instantly by colour. And a less practical reason is that the grey default themes always make me feel depressed. Programming shouldn't be grey and boring, it should be fun ;)
A new, supported colourised theme would be a wonderful thing - particularly if there were settings to choose the colour scheme. I like the coloured windows so much that I've been tempted to go back to Squeak - right up until the overloaded world menu reminds me why I prefer Pharo.
Regards, Stuart
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi guys
just out of curiosity who is using SoftSqueak and Standard Squeak theme? I know that lukas like colored windows now may be specific new style with this behavior could be done?
Stef
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done."
participants (11)
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Alain Plantec -
Camillo Bruni -
Helene Bilbo -
laurent laffont -
Lukas Renggli -
Patrick Barroca -
Schwab,Wilhelm K -
Stuart Herring -
Stéphane Ducasse -
Sven Van Caekenberghe -
Tudor Girba