HELP WANTED: improve Dark Theme
Hi, The Dark Theme is a standard theme upcoming in Pharo4, but as you might noticed, is still far from perfect. I would like to take some actions on it but I do not have a lot of time this days, so I thought on asking for help :) What I think is needed? 1) There are some bugs (for example in the search window, cmd+f in text panes) 2) Icon-set is not prepared for dark backgrounds. Now, this is a problem in eclipse itself who didnât had a dark-theme either until recently. Now, I know they added a dark-theme and a corresponding set of icons (a set that can be displayed correctly both in white and black backgrounds), but I cannot find the icons. So if someone knows where they are, Iâll gladly replace them. I know in an ideal world we will have our own set of icons, but that requires a lot of effort and design talent⦠so in the mean time, I think eclipse icons are doing a good job :) cheers, Esteban
On 23 Jan 2015, at 12:03, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
The Dark Theme is a standard theme upcoming in Pharo4, but as you might noticed, is still far from perfect. I would like to take some actions on it but I do not have a lot of time this days, so I thought on asking for help :)
What I think is needed?
1) There are some bugs (for example in the search window, cmd+f in text panes) 2) Icon-set is not prepared for dark backgrounds. Now, this is a problem in eclipse itself who didnât had a dark-theme either until recently. Now, I know they added a dark-theme and a corresponding set of icons (a set that can be displayed correctly both in white and black backgrounds), but I cannot find the icons. So if someone knows where they are, Iâll gladly replace them.
3) Fix spotter theming (currently ignores dark theme)
I know in an ideal world we will have our own set of icons, but that requires a lot of effort and design talent⦠so in the mean time, I think eclipse icons are doing a good job :)
cheers, Esteban
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=385003 https://code.google.com/p/eclipse-svg-icons/
Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Januar 2015 um 12:24 Uhr Von: "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <sven@stfx.eu> An: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] HELP WANTED: improve Dark Theme
On 23 Jan 2015, at 12:03, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
The Dark Theme is a standard theme upcoming in Pharo4, but as you might noticed, is still far from perfect. I would like to take some actions on it but I do not have a lot of time this days, so I thought on asking for help :)
What I think is needed?
1) There are some bugs (for example in the search window, cmd+f in text panes) 2) Icon-set is not prepared for dark backgrounds. Now, this is a problem in eclipse itself who didnât had a dark-theme either until recently. Now, I know they added a dark-theme and a corresponding set of icons (a set that can be displayed correctly both in white and black backgrounds), but I cannot find the icons. So if someone knows where they are, Iâll gladly replace them.
3) Fix spotter theming (currently ignores dark theme)
I know in an ideal world we will have our own set of icons, but that requires a lot of effort and design talent⦠so in the mean time, I think eclipse icons are doing a good job :)
cheers, Esteban
On 23 Jan 2015, at 12:53, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de> wrote:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=385003 https://code.google.com/p/eclipse-svg-icons/ <https://code.google.com/p/eclipse-svg-icons/>
cool! now I have to figure out how to display svg icons in pharo⦠but this is what I was looking for :) Esteban
Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Januar 2015 um 12:24 Uhr Von: "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <sven@stfx.eu> An: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] HELP WANTED: improve Dark Theme
On 23 Jan 2015, at 12:03, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
The Dark Theme is a standard theme upcoming in Pharo4, but as you might noticed, is still far from perfect. I would like to take some actions on it but I do not have a lot of time this days, so I thought on asking for help :)
What I think is needed?
1) There are some bugs (for example in the search window, cmd+f in text panes) 2) Icon-set is not prepared for dark backgrounds. Now, this is a problem in eclipse itself who didnât had a dark-theme either until recently. Now, I know they added a dark-theme and a corresponding set of icons (a set that can be displayed correctly both in white and black backgrounds), but I cannot find the icons. So if someone knows where they are, Iâll gladly replace them.
3) Fix spotter theming (currently ignores dark theme)
I know in an ideal world we will have our own set of icons, but that requires a lot of effort and design talent⦠so in the mean time, I think eclipse icons are doing a good job :)
cheers, Esteban
I think roassal can do that On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
On 23 Jan 2015, at 12:53, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de> wrote:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=385003 https://code.google.com/p/eclipse-svg-icons/
cool! now I have to figure out how to display svg icons in pharo⦠but this is what I was looking for :)
Esteban
Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Januar 2015 um 12:24 Uhr Von: "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <sven@stfx.eu> An: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] HELP WANTED: improve Dark Theme
On 23 Jan 2015, at 12:03, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
The Dark Theme is a standard theme upcoming in Pharo4, but as you might noticed, is still far from perfect. I would like to take some actions on it but I do not have a lot of time this days, so I thought on asking for help :)
What I think is needed?
1) There are some bugs (for example in the search window, cmd+f in text panes) 2) Icon-set is not prepared for dark backgrounds. Now, this is a problem in eclipse itself who didnât had a dark-theme either until recently. Now, I know they added a dark-theme and a corresponding set of icons (a set that can be displayed correctly both in white and black backgrounds), but I cannot find the icons. So if someone knows where they are, Iâll gladly replace them.
3) Fix spotter theming (currently ignores dark theme)
I know in an ideal world we will have our own set of icons, but that requires a lot of effort and design talent⦠so in the mean time, I think eclipse icons are doing a good job :)
cheers, Esteban
3) Fix spotter theming (currently ignores dark theme)
I added DarkTheme to spotter. Update to check and you can also take a look how theming mechanism works in GT. There is UITheme>>spotterWidgetThemer that returns themer object for Spotter and to add custom theme she needs to override it in her own theme like it is done in Pharo3DarkTheme>>spotterWidgetThemer. It allows to customize widgets deeply and reduces mess in themes :) Cheers, Alex On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:19 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
I think roassal can do that
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
On 23 Jan 2015, at 12:53, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de> wrote:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=385003 https://code.google.com/p/eclipse-svg-icons/
cool! now I have to figure out how to display svg icons in pharo⦠but this is what I was looking for :)
Esteban
Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Januar 2015 um 12:24 Uhr Von: "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <sven@stfx.eu> An: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] HELP WANTED: improve Dark Theme
On 23 Jan 2015, at 12:03, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
The Dark Theme is a standard theme upcoming in Pharo4, but as you might noticed, is still far from perfect. I would like to take some actions on it but I do not have a lot of time this days, so I thought on asking for help :)
What I think is needed?
1) There are some bugs (for example in the search window, cmd+f in text panes) 2) Icon-set is not prepared for dark backgrounds. Now, this is a problem in eclipse itself who didnât had a dark-theme either until recently. Now, I know they added a dark-theme and a corresponding set of icons (a set that can be displayed correctly both in white and black backgrounds), but I cannot find the icons. So if someone knows where they are, Iâll gladly replace them.
3) Fix spotter theming (currently ignores dark theme)
I know in an ideal world we will have our own set of icons, but that requires a lot of effort and design talent⦠so in the mean time, I think eclipse icons are doing a good job :)
cheers, Esteban
Le 23/1/15 13:30, Aliaksei Syrel a écrit :
3) Fix spotter theming (currently ignores dark theme)
I added DarkTheme to spotter. Update to check and you can also take a look how theming mechanism works in GT. There is UITheme>>spotterWidgetThemer that returns themer object for Spotter and to add custom theme she needs to override it in her own theme like it is done in Pharo3DarkTheme>>spotterWidgetThemer. It allows to customize widgets deeply and reduces mess in themes :)
Well we will see because with themes.... the problem is the scale and variations. So this is good to have a real experience with GT. I did some brainstorming to see what could be a good architecture this summer but not enough time to get through and compare with the solution of doru.
Cheers, Alex
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:19 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think roassal can do that
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 23 Jan 2015, at 12:53, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de <mailto:astares@gmx.de>> wrote:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=385003 https://code.google.com/p/eclipse-svg-icons/
cool! now I have to figure out how to display svg icons in pharo⦠but this is what I was looking for :)
Esteban
Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Januar 2015 um 12:24 Uhr Von: "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <sven@stfx.eu <mailto:sven@stfx.eu>> An: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org>> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] HELP WANTED: improve Dark Theme
On 23 Jan 2015, at 12:03, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,
The Dark Theme is a standard theme upcoming in Pharo4, but as you might noticed, is still far from perfect. I would like to take some actions on it but I do not have a lot of time this days, so I thought on asking for help :)
What I think is needed?
1) There are some bugs (for example in the search window, cmd+f in text panes) 2) Icon-set is not prepared for dark backgrounds. Now, this is a problem in eclipse itself who didnât had a dark-theme either until recently. Now, I know they added a dark-theme and a corresponding set of icons (a set that can be displayed correctly both in white and black backgrounds), but I cannot find the icons. So if someone knows where they are, Iâll gladly replace them.
3) Fix spotter theming (currently ignores dark theme)
I know in an ideal world we will have our own set of icons, but that requires a lot of effort and design talent⦠so in the mean time, I think eclipse icons are doing a good job :)
cheers, Esteban
On 23 Jan 2015, at 12:24, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
On 23 Jan 2015, at 12:03, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
The Dark Theme is a standard theme upcoming in Pharo4, but as you might noticed, is still far from perfect. I would like to take some actions on it but I do not have a lot of time this days, so I thought on asking for help :)
What I think is needed?
1) There are some bugs (for example in the search window, cmd+f in text panes) 2) Icon-set is not prepared for dark backgrounds. Now, this is a problem in eclipse itself who didnât had a dark-theme either until recently. Now, I know they added a dark-theme and a corresponding set of icons (a set that can be displayed correctly both in white and black backgrounds), but I cannot find the icons. So if someone knows where they are, Iâll gladly replace them.
3) Fix spotter theming (currently ignores dark theme)
Yes! but thatâs a problem of spotter, not Dark Theme ;)
I know in an ideal world we will have our own set of icons, but that requires a lot of effort and design talent⦠so in the mean time, I think eclipse icons are doing a good job :)
cheers, Esteban
Hi! It would be great to have a good dark theme. There is a bit of theory behind about how to choose a nice color schema. It would be _great_ that the crew behind this effort have a look at it. Here is a set of colors that works well for the dark theme. The code highlighter may greatly benefit from it. http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized It even works well for the white theme. Cheers, Alexandre NB: Thanks to Damien Pollet for the Solarized link!
On Jan 23, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
The Dark Theme is a standard theme upcoming in Pharo4, but as you might noticed, is still far from perfect. I would like to take some actions on it but I do not have a lot of time this days, so I thought on asking for help :)
What I think is needed?
1) There are some bugs (for example in the search window, cmd+f in text panes) 2) Icon-set is not prepared for dark backgrounds. Now, this is a problem in eclipse itself who didnât had a dark-theme either until recently. Now, I know they added a dark-theme and a corresponding set of icons (a set that can be displayed correctly both in white and black backgrounds), but I cannot find the icons. So if someone knows where they are, Iâll gladly replace them. I know in an ideal world we will have our own set of icons, but that requires a lot of effort and design talent⦠so in the mean time, I think eclipse icons are doing a good job :)
cheers, Esteban
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On 25 Jan 2015, at 00:51, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
Hi!
It would be great to have a good dark theme. There is a bit of theory behind about how to choose a nice color schema. It would be _great_ that the crew behind this effort have a look at it.
we do have a good dark theme⦠probably not the one you like the most, but is good (based in darcula for eclipse) :)
Here is a set of colors that works well for the dark theme. The code highlighter may greatly benefit from it. http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized <http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized>
You already have solarised highlight in pharo. But it will not work out-of-the-box on dark because of the default font (is dark gray)â¦. I suppose it can be adapted easily for dark theme too. Esteban
It even works well for the white theme.
Cheers, Alexandre
NB: Thanks to Damien Pollet for the Solarized link!
On Jan 23, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
The Dark Theme is a standard theme upcoming in Pharo4, but as you might noticed, is still far from perfect. I would like to take some actions on it but I do not have a lot of time this days, so I thought on asking for help :)
What I think is needed?
1) There are some bugs (for example in the search window, cmd+f in text panes) 2) Icon-set is not prepared for dark backgrounds. Now, this is a problem in eclipse itself who didnât had a dark-theme either until recently. Now, I know they added a dark-theme and a corresponding set of icons (a set that can be displayed correctly both in white and black backgrounds), but I cannot find the icons. So if someone knows where they are, Iâll gladly replace them. I know in an ideal world we will have our own set of icons, but that requires a lot of effort and design talent⦠so in the mean time, I think eclipse icons are doing a good job :)
cheers, Esteban
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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