Re: [Pharo-project] Using pharo in a course?
Not to add any pressure or be annoying, but what is the current estimate of when 1.0 will be released? I am just curious. -------------- Original message -------------- From: Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>
Use pharo (better UI). Once we will have pharo 1.0 we will work on pharo by example. Seaside is now developed using pharo.
Stef
On Jan 29, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Marco D'Ambros wrote:
Hi all!
I will start teaching a course about software engineering and web development, and I decided to do it with seaside. I was wondering whether to use pharo or squeak... which are the benefits and drawbacks of pharo with respect to squeak, in the context of a bachelor course? The students know about object oriented programming but don't about smalltalk, so in the first weeks we will teach smalltalk.
Any suggestions?
Thanks and cheers Marco D'Ambros
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Before esug I hope. Alexandre On 30 Jan 2009, at 15:20, michael_atkisson@comcast.net wrote:
Not to add any pressure or be annoying, but what is the current estimate of when 1.0 will be released? I am just curious.
-------------- Original message -------------- From: Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>
Use pharo (better UI). Once we will have pharo 1.0 we will work on pharo by example. Seaside is now developed using pharo.
Stef
On Jan 29, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Marco D'Ambros wrote:
Hi all!
I will start teaching a course about software engineering and web development, and I decided to do it with seaside. I was wondering whether to use pharo or squeak... which are the benefits and drawbacks of pharo with respect to squeak, in the context of a bachelor course? The students know about object oriented programming but don't about smalltalk, so in the first weeks we will teach smalltalk.
Any suggestions?
Thanks and cheers Marco D'Ambros
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ideally we planed for march now what is left to do: - trait fixes - etoy removal - licensing. Stef On Jan 30, 2009, at 3:20 PM, michael_atkisson@comcast.net wrote:
Not to add any pressure or be annoying, but what is the current estimate of when 1.0 will be released? I am just curious.
-------------- Original message -------------- From: Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>
Use pharo (better UI). Once we will have pharo 1.0 we will work on pharo by example. Seaside is now developed using pharo.
Stef
On Jan 29, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Marco D'Ambros wrote:
Hi all!
I will start teaching a course about software engineering and web development, and I decided to do it with seaside. I was wondering whether to use pharo or squeak... which are the benefits and drawbacks of pharo with respect to squeak, in the context of a bachelor course? The students know about object oriented programming but don't about smalltalk, so in the first weeks we will teach smalltalk.
Any suggestions?
Thanks and cheers Marco D'Ambros
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On 30.01.2009, at 15:32, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
ideally we planed for march now what is left to do: - trait fixes - etoy removal - licensing.
Yes, this is what is left from the list of things for 1.0 (and: use TT fonts by default). I hope to be able to work again on pharo soon (too many papers with deadlines...) Marcus
Stef
On Jan 30, 2009, at 3:20 PM, michael_atkisson@comcast.net wrote:
Not to add any pressure or be annoying, but what is the current estimate of when 1.0 will be released? I am just curious.
-------------- Original message -------------- From: Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>
Use pharo (better UI). Once we will have pharo 1.0 we will work on pharo by example. Seaside is now developed using pharo.
Stef
On Jan 29, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Marco D'Ambros wrote:
Hi all!
I will start teaching a course about software engineering and web development, and I decided to do it with seaside. I was wondering whether to use pharo or squeak... which are the benefits and drawbacks of pharo with respect to squeak, in the context of a bachelor course? The students know about object oriented programming but don't about smalltalk, so in the first weeks we will teach smalltalk.
Any suggestions?
Thanks and cheers Marco D'Ambros
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On Jan 30, 2009, at 15:32 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
ideally we planed for march now what is left to do: - trait fixes - etoy removal - licensing.
...there is some more stuff. This is also documented at http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Milestones - default in-image font(s) - Alien FFI - Package management system with stable and unstable distributions - Remove SqueakMap from core - All tests green - Pharo one-click image - Prepare second update stream to maintain released version - Fix critical pending bugs We make progress, but a bit less fast than what I hoped. Anybody that wants to help is welcome... If you wonder what to do, just ask. Cheers, Adrian
Stef
On Jan 30, 2009, at 3:20 PM, michael_atkisson@comcast.net wrote:
Not to add any pressure or be annoying, but what is the current estimate of when 1.0 will be released? I am just curious.
-------------- Original message -------------- From: Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>
Use pharo (better UI). Once we will have pharo 1.0 we will work on pharo by example. Seaside is now developed using pharo.
Stef
On Jan 29, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Marco D'Ambros wrote:
Hi all!
I will start teaching a course about software engineering and web development, and I decided to do it with seaside. I was wondering whether to use pharo or squeak... which are the benefits and drawbacks of pharo with respect to squeak, in the context of a bachelor course? The students know about object oriented programming but don't about smalltalk, so in the first weeks we will teach smalltalk.
Any suggestions?
Thanks and cheers Marco D'Ambros
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