[Pharo-project] OB column width resizing
I'd love to be able to resize the column widths in OB. I have a 3" protocol column with the longest row being "testing", and all the method names are running off the side of the window. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/OB-column-width-resizing-tp3606264p3606264.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
See http://groups.google.com/group/omnibrowser-dev/browse_thread/thread/39572387... On 17 June 2011 21:22, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote:
I'd love to be able to resize the column widths in OB. I have a 3" protocol column with the longest row being "testing", and all the method names are running off the side of the window.
Sean
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Lukas Renggli wrote:
See http://groups.google.com/group/omnibrowser-dev/browse_thread/thread/39572387...
Thx :( -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/OB-column-width-resizing-tp3606264p3606347.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
As my Pharo MVP framework grows, I am starting to miss Dolphin's layout managers. The voodoo of automatically inserting splitters is, IMHO, time thrown after bad. We should instead have easy-to-use widgets that do what one expects and then explicitly place them where they belong. Dolphin's proportional layouts can be set as horizontal or vertical, and one can add splitters to allow the proportions to be changed. An aspect called #arrangement can be set to zero to make something fixed size or to any number which then becomes that much out of the sum of peer #arrangement values. My first priority is to get any type of layout that is reliable with deeply nested composites. Not there yet :( Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Sean P. DeNigris [sean@clipperadams.com] Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:00 PM To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OB column width resizing Lukas Renggli wrote:
See http://groups.google.com/group/omnibrowser-dev/browse_thread/thread/39572387...
Thx :( -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/OB-column-width-resizing-tp3606264p3606347.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
bill did you check the idea of igor about layout that acts as anchors? Stef On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:49 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
As my Pharo MVP framework grows, I am starting to miss Dolphin's layout managers. The voodoo of automatically inserting splitters is, IMHO, time thrown after bad. We should instead have easy-to-use widgets that do what one expects and then explicitly place them where they belong.
Dolphin's proportional layouts can be set as horizontal or vertical, and one can add splitters to allow the proportions to be changed. An aspect called #arrangement can be set to zero to make something fixed size or to any number which then becomes that much out of the sum of peer #arrangement values.
My first priority is to get any type of layout that is reliable with deeply nested composites. Not there yet :(
Bill
________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Sean P. DeNigris [sean@clipperadams.com] Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:00 PM To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OB column width resizing
Lukas Renggli wrote:
See http://groups.google.com/group/omnibrowser-dev/browse_thread/thread/39572387...
Thx :(
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Stef, I had missed it. Fernando raises some good points about the layout manager. One of the ways I have historically solved some of the problems that arise is to use "way too many"<g> nested containers. Consider making a list of several labeled text fields for a dialog box. One approach to that is a pair of vertical proportional layouts, one with the labels (each aligning text to the right) and another with the fields. Put both of them in another container to size them to available space in something else. Igor and Fernando reminded me of something I failed to mention about Dolphin: the layout manager of a container forces particular types for the managed subviews' #arrangement. ProportionalLayout wants numbers; FramingLayout wants things very similar to what exists in Pharo. Framing layout is very powerful, but nested proportionals can often to pretty much the same thing and often with far less anguish. Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 3:01 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OB column width resizing bill did you check the idea of igor about layout that acts as anchors? Stef On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:49 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
As my Pharo MVP framework grows, I am starting to miss Dolphin's layout managers. The voodoo of automatically inserting splitters is, IMHO, time thrown after bad. We should instead have easy-to-use widgets that do what one expects and then explicitly place them where they belong.
Dolphin's proportional layouts can be set as horizontal or vertical, and one can add splitters to allow the proportions to be changed. An aspect called #arrangement can be set to zero to make something fixed size or to any number which then becomes that much out of the sum of peer #arrangement values.
My first priority is to get any type of layout that is reliable with deeply nested composites. Not there yet :(
Bill
________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Sean P. DeNigris [sean@clipperadams.com] Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:00 PM To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OB column width resizing
Lukas Renggli wrote:
See http://groups.google.com/group/omnibrowser-dev/browse_thread/thread/39572387...
Thx :(
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Igor do you have your code somewhere? Stef On Jun 18, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Stef,
I had missed it. Fernando raises some good points about the layout manager. One of the ways I have historically solved some of the problems that arise is to use "way too many"<g> nested containers.
Consider making a list of several labeled text fields for a dialog box. One approach to that is a pair of vertical proportional layouts, one with the labels (each aligning text to the right) and another with the fields. Put both of them in another container to size them to available space in something else.
Igor and Fernando reminded me of something I failed to mention about Dolphin: the layout manager of a container forces particular types for the managed subviews' #arrangement. ProportionalLayout wants numbers; FramingLayout wants things very similar to what exists in Pharo. Framing layout is very powerful, but nested proportionals can often to pretty much the same thing and often with far less anguish.
Bill
________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 3:01 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OB column width resizing
bill
did you check the idea of igor about layout that acts as anchors?
Stef
On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:49 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
As my Pharo MVP framework grows, I am starting to miss Dolphin's layout managers. The voodoo of automatically inserting splitters is, IMHO, time thrown after bad. We should instead have easy-to-use widgets that do what one expects and then explicitly place them where they belong.
Dolphin's proportional layouts can be set as horizontal or vertical, and one can add splitters to allow the proportions to be changed. An aspect called #arrangement can be set to zero to make something fixed size or to any number which then becomes that much out of the sum of peer #arrangement values.
My first priority is to get any type of layout that is reliable with deeply nested composites. Not there yet :(
Bill
________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Sean P. DeNigris [sean@clipperadams.com] Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:00 PM To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OB column width resizing
Lukas Renggli wrote:
See http://groups.google.com/group/omnibrowser-dev/browse_thread/thread/39572387...
Thx :(
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Not yet - it's still very crude on some of the more important points. ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 8:59 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OB column width resizing Igor do you have your code somewhere? Stef On Jun 18, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Stef,
I had missed it. Fernando raises some good points about the layout manager. One of the ways I have historically solved some of the problems that arise is to use "way too many"<g> nested containers.
Consider making a list of several labeled text fields for a dialog box. One approach to that is a pair of vertical proportional layouts, one with the labels (each aligning text to the right) and another with the fields. Put both of them in another container to size them to available space in something else.
Igor and Fernando reminded me of something I failed to mention about Dolphin: the layout manager of a container forces particular types for the managed subviews' #arrangement. ProportionalLayout wants numbers; FramingLayout wants things very similar to what exists in Pharo. Framing layout is very powerful, but nested proportionals can often to pretty much the same thing and often with far less anguish.
Bill
________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 3:01 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OB column width resizing
bill
did you check the idea of igor about layout that acts as anchors?
Stef
On Jun 17, 2011, at 11:49 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
As my Pharo MVP framework grows, I am starting to miss Dolphin's layout managers. The voodoo of automatically inserting splitters is, IMHO, time thrown after bad. We should instead have easy-to-use widgets that do what one expects and then explicitly place them where they belong.
Dolphin's proportional layouts can be set as horizontal or vertical, and one can add splitters to allow the proportions to be changed. An aspect called #arrangement can be set to zero to make something fixed size or to any number which then becomes that much out of the sum of peer #arrangement values.
My first priority is to get any type of layout that is reliable with deeply nested composites. Not there yet :(
Bill
________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Sean P. DeNigris [sean@clipperadams.com] Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:00 PM To: pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OB column width resizing
Lukas Renggli wrote:
See http://groups.google.com/group/omnibrowser-dev/browse_thread/thread/39572387...
Thx :(
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