[Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu
Hi, What is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on Ubuntu? Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar."
What is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on Ubuntu?
The instructions in the Seaside book should work: http://book.seaside.st/book/advanced/deployment/deployment-apache/install-vm Did you try that? Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
Not knowing what to make of Squeak vs. Pharo (or perhaps waiting until there is an Ubuntu package for the Pharo VM), I simply unpacked the vm under ~Software/PharoVM and launch Pharo with a shell script that lists the full path to the vm and the image. Then I added an icon to my Programming menu with the script as an action. If any of that is non-obvious to you, feel free to ask questions. I have done something similar on Windows for years to avoid the moods and bloat of the Windows Installer, so a script to specify the vm and image struck me as the preferred way to make it work. I have not yet started to run my own services on Linux, and what I am recommending might(??) lead to problems with ownership of the path. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Lukas Renggli Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:31 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu
What is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on Ubuntu?
The instructions in the Seaside book should work: http://book.seaside.st/book/advanced/deployment/deployment-apache/install-vm Did you try that? Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Hmm, I get the following error:
sudo apt-get install squeak-vm Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package squeak-vm
I am running on Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS. Doru On 31 Oct 2009, at 14:31, Lukas Renggli wrote:
What is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on Ubuntu?
The instructions in the Seaside book should work:
http://book.seaside.st/book/advanced/deployment/deployment-apache/install-vm
Did you try that?
Cheers, Lukas
-- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
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Doru, My machine is busy with an upgrade to 9.10 as I type, so I won't be able to check this for a while. IIRC, there at least was an entry for Squeak in the package manager. It was perhaps a couple of years ago that I used it; it worked well, but the version of Squeak that was installed was dated even at the time. See the message I just posted about using a shell script for another option. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Tudor Girba Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:56 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu Hmm, I get the following error:
sudo apt-get install squeak-vm Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package squeak-vm
I am running on Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS. Doru On 31 Oct 2009, at 14:31, Lukas Renggli wrote:
What is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on Ubuntu?
The instructions in the Seaside book should work:
http://book.seaside.st/book/advanced/deployment/deployment-apache/inst all-vm
Did you try that?
Cheers, Lukas
-- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
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Hi Doru: In a wonderful world, you would have latest PharoVM in the Ubuntu repositories and for all Ubuntu verions. In the real world, this is not done. The squeak or Pharo VM that usually are at the repositories are old and not for all Ubuntu versions. Thus, I think the easiest way to install it, is this (as Dale said): 1) Download the VM from here http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22745/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux.zip 2) Unzip it somewhere. 3) And then you can just execute VM. Suppose you uncompress the zip in /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/ Then you can open a terminal an do /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/squeak /home/doru/pharo-images/myxxximage.image Now I notice that it would be better if the executable file is called pharo instead of squeak That's all. Best Mariano On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
What is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on Ubuntu?
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar."
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mariano can you check and edit the wiki to have such information clearly stated and visible? Stef On Oct 31, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Hi Doru: In a wonderful world, you would have latest PharoVM in the Ubuntu repositories and for all Ubuntu verions. In the real world, this is not done. The squeak or Pharo VM that usually are at the repositories are old and not for all Ubuntu versions. Thus, I think the easiest way to install it, is this (as Dale said):
1) Download the VM from here http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22745/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux.zip 2) Unzip it somewhere. 3) And then you can just execute VM. Suppose you uncompress the zip in /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/ Then you can open a terminal an do /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo- vm-0.15.2d-linux/squeak /home/doru/pharo-images/myxxximage.image
Now I notice that it would be better if the executable file is called pharo instead of squeak
That's all.
Best
Mariano
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com> wrote: Hi,
What is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on Ubuntu?
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar."
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On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:
mariano
can you check and edit the wiki to have such information clearly stated and visible?
Of course I can. I couldn't find a suitable wiki page for that. Did you? if not, I will create one. Best regards, Mariano
Stef On Oct 31, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Hi Doru: In a wonderful world, you would have latest PharoVM in the Ubuntu repositories and for all Ubuntu verions. In the real world, this is not done. The squeak or Pharo VM that usually are at the repositories are old and not for all Ubuntu versions. Thus, I think the easiest way to install it, is this (as Dale said):
1) Download the VM from here http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22745/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux.zip 2) Unzip it somewhere. 3) And then you can just execute VM. Suppose you uncompress the zip in /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/ Then you can open a terminal an do /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo- vm-0.15.2d-linux/squeak /home/doru/pharo-images/myxxximage.image
Now I notice that it would be better if the executable file is called pharo instead of squeak
That's all.
Best
Mariano
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com> wrote: Hi,
What is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on Ubuntu?
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar."
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On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:
mariano
can you check and edit the wiki to have such information clearly stated and visible?
I forgot to said that most of this information (and more) is explained in the README.txt file. cheers
Stef On Oct 31, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Hi Doru: In a wonderful world, you would have latest PharoVM in the Ubuntu repositories and for all Ubuntu verions. In the real world, this is not done. The squeak or Pharo VM that usually are at the repositories are old and not for all Ubuntu versions. Thus, I think the easiest way to install it, is this (as Dale said):
1) Download the VM from here http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22745/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux.zip 2) Unzip it somewhere. 3) And then you can just execute VM. Suppose you uncompress the zip in /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/ Then you can open a terminal an do /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo- vm-0.15.2d-linux/squeak /home/doru/pharo-images/myxxximage.image
Now I notice that it would be better if the executable file is called pharo instead of squeak
That's all.
Best
Mariano
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com> wrote: Hi,
What is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on Ubuntu?
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar."
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Thanks a lot for the extensive replies :) Cheers, Doru On 31 Oct 2009, at 18:07, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote: mariano
can you check and edit the wiki to have such information clearly stated and visible?
I forgot to said that most of this information (and more) is explained in the README.txt file.
cheers
Stef On Oct 31, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Hi Doru: In a wonderful world, you would have latest PharoVM in the Ubuntu repositories and for all Ubuntu verions. In the real world, this is not done. The squeak or Pharo VM that usually are at the repositories are old and not for all Ubuntu versions. Thus, I think the easiest way to install it, is this (as Dale said):
1) Download the VM from here http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22745/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux.zip 2) Unzip it somewhere. 3) And then you can just execute VM. Suppose you uncompress the zip in /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/ Then you can open a terminal an do /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo- vm-0.15.2d-linux/squeak /home/doru/pharo-images/myxxximage.image
Now I notice that it would be better if the executable file is called pharo instead of squeak
That's all.
Best
Mariano
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com> wrote: Hi,
What is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on Ubuntu?
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar."
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Hi again, I downloaded the pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux, unzipped it, but when I try to launch the squeak executable (both alone and with an image as parameter) it tells me: No such file or directory This is a bit strange because the squeak executable is there and with the correct rights: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 597660 Apr 8 2009 squeak Does anybody have any idea about what the problem could be? Cheers, Doru On 1 Nov 2009, at 20:02, Tudor Girba wrote:
Thanks a lot for the extensive replies :)
Cheers, Doru
On 31 Oct 2009, at 18:07, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote: mariano
can you check and edit the wiki to have such information clearly stated and visible?
I forgot to said that most of this information (and more) is explained in the README.txt file.
cheers
Stef On Oct 31, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Hi Doru: In a wonderful world, you would have latest PharoVM in the Ubuntu repositories and for all Ubuntu verions. In the real world, this is not done. The squeak or Pharo VM that usually are at the repositories are old and not for all Ubuntu versions. Thus, I think the easiest way to install it, is this (as Dale said):
1) Download the VM from here http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22745/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux.zip 2) Unzip it somewhere. 3) And then you can just execute VM. Suppose you uncompress the zip in /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/ Then you can open a terminal an do /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo- vm-0.15.2d-linux/squeak /home/doru/pharo-images/myxxximage.image
Now I notice that it would be better if the executable file is called pharo instead of squeak
That's all.
Best
Mariano
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com> wrote: Hi,
What is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on Ubuntu?
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar."
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-- www.tudorgirba.com "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get."
If you're on 64-bit linux, I think that's what I got when I tried to execute a 32bit VM once. The README.txt contains info on what to do in that case, iirc. Cheers, Henry On Nov 2, 2009, at 12:44 36PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi again,
I downloaded the pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux, unzipped it, but when I try to launch the squeak executable (both alone and with an image as parameter) it tells me: No such file or directory
This is a bit strange because the squeak executable is there and with the correct rights: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 597660 Apr 8 2009 squeak
Does anybody have any idea about what the problem could be?
Cheers, Doru
On 1 Nov 2009, at 20:02, Tudor Girba wrote:
Thanks a lot for the extensive replies :)
Cheers, Doru
On 31 Oct 2009, at 18:07, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote: mariano
can you check and edit the wiki to have such information clearly stated and visible?
I forgot to said that most of this information (and more) is explained in the README.txt file.
cheers
Stef On Oct 31, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Hi Doru: In a wonderful world, you would have latest PharoVM in the Ubuntu repositories and for all Ubuntu verions. In the real world, this is not done. The squeak or Pharo VM that usually are at the repositories are old and not for all Ubuntu versions. Thus, I think the easiest way to install it, is this (as Dale said):
1) Download the VM from here http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22745/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux.zip 2) Unzip it somewhere. 3) And then you can just execute VM. Suppose you uncompress the zip in /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/ Then you can open a terminal an do /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo- vm-0.15.2d-linux/squeak /home/doru/pharo-images/myxxximage.image
Now I notice that it would be better if the executable file is called pharo instead of squeak
That's all.
Best
Mariano
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com> wrote: Hi,
What is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on Ubuntu?
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar."
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-- www.tudorgirba.com
"One cannot do more than one can do."
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Be rather willing to give than demanding to get."
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Indeed, I realized afterwards that this might be a problem. However, I tried to install the 32 compatibility library as said in the README.txt, but it did not work because it did not find any "ia32- libs". I then tried sudo apt-get update and it managed to load ia32-libs. It now seems to run something :) Thanks, Doru On 2 Nov 2009, at 13:11, Henrik Johansen wrote:
If you're on 64-bit linux, I think that's what I got when I tried to execute a 32bit VM once. The README.txt contains info on what to do in that case, iirc.
Cheers, Henry
On Nov 2, 2009, at 12:44 36PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi again,
I downloaded the pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux, unzipped it, but when I try to launch the squeak executable (both alone and with an image as parameter) it tells me: No such file or directory
This is a bit strange because the squeak executable is there and with the correct rights: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 597660 Apr 8 2009 squeak
Does anybody have any idea about what the problem could be?
Cheers, Doru
On 1 Nov 2009, at 20:02, Tudor Girba wrote:
Thanks a lot for the extensive replies :)
Cheers, Doru
On 31 Oct 2009, at 18:07, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote: mariano
can you check and edit the wiki to have such information clearly stated and visible?
I forgot to said that most of this information (and more) is explained in the README.txt file.
cheers
Stef On Oct 31, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Hi Doru: In a wonderful world, you would have latest PharoVM in the Ubuntu repositories and for all Ubuntu verions. In the real world, this is not done. The squeak or Pharo VM that usually are at the repositories are old and not for all Ubuntu versions. Thus, I think the easiest way to install it, is this (as Dale said):
1) Download the VM from here http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22745/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux.zip 2) Unzip it somewhere. 3) And then you can just execute VM. Suppose you uncompress the zip in /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/ Then you can open a terminal an do /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo- vm-0.15.2d-linux/squeak /home/doru/pharo-images/myxxximage.image
Now I notice that it would be better if the executable file is called pharo instead of squeak
That's all.
Best
Mariano
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com> wrote: Hi,
What is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on Ubuntu?
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar."
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-- www.tudorgirba.com
"One cannot do more than one can do."
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Be rather willing to give than demanding to get."
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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Thanks Doru. Damien: I updated the README.txt with the Doru's experience. I just add: "You may have an error saying that it did not find any "ia32-libs" package. In that case, you can try: sudo apt-get update" I attach the new version of the README.txt. Would you mind putting it in the next LinuxVM zip of the website download? Best, Mariano On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com> wrote:
Indeed, I realized afterwards that this might be a problem.
However, I tried to install the 32 compatibility library as said in the README.txt, but it did not work because it did not find any "ia32- libs". I then tried sudo apt-get update
and it managed to load ia32-libs.
It now seems to run something :)
Thanks, Doru
On 2 Nov 2009, at 13:11, Henrik Johansen wrote:
If you're on 64-bit linux, I think that's what I got when I tried to execute a 32bit VM once. The README.txt contains info on what to do in that case, iirc.
Cheers, Henry
On Nov 2, 2009, at 12:44 36PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi again,
I downloaded the pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux, unzipped it, but when I try to launch the squeak executable (both alone and with an image as parameter) it tells me: No such file or directory
This is a bit strange because the squeak executable is there and with the correct rights: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 597660 Apr 8 2009 squeak
Does anybody have any idea about what the problem could be?
Cheers, Doru
On 1 Nov 2009, at 20:02, Tudor Girba wrote:
Thanks a lot for the extensive replies :)
Cheers, Doru
On 31 Oct 2009, at 18:07, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote: mariano
can you check and edit the wiki to have such information clearly stated and visible?
I forgot to said that most of this information (and more) is explained in the README.txt file.
cheers
Stef On Oct 31, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Hi Doru: In a wonderful world, you would have latest PharoVM in the Ubuntu repositories and for all Ubuntu verions. In the real world, this is not done. The squeak or Pharo VM that usually are at the repositories are old and not for all Ubuntu versions. Thus, I think the easiest way to install it, is this (as Dale said):
1) Download the VM from here http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22745/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux.zip 2) Unzip it somewhere. 3) And then you can just execute VM. Suppose you uncompress the zip in /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/ Then you can open a terminal an do /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo- vm-0.15.2d-linux/squeak /home/doru/pharo-images/myxxximage.image
Now I notice that it would be better if the executable file is called pharo instead of squeak
That's all.
Best
Mariano
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com> wrote: Hi,
What is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on Ubuntu?
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar."
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On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com> wrote:
Damien: I updated the README.txt with the Doru's experience. I just add:
"You may have an error saying that it did not find any "ia32-libs" package. In that case, you can try:
sudo apt-get update"
I attach the new version of the README.txt. Would you mind putting it in the next LinuxVM zip of the website download?
done. Thank you -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry
Are there any changes to the vm itself (or plugins)? -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Damien Cassou Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 11:27 AM To: Mariano Martinez Peck Cc: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com> wrote:
Damien: I updated the README.txt with the Doru's experience. I just add:
"You may have an error saying that it did not find any "ia32-libs" package. In that case, you can try:
sudo apt-get update"
I attach the new version of the README.txt. Would you mind putting it in the next LinuxVM zip of the website download?
done. Thank you -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Agreed that naming it Pharo would be better, but the name is of less interest to me than the vm sources. If there are Pharo-specific changes, I do not see them anywere?? Bill ________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 11:44 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu Hi Doru: In a wonderful world, you would have latest PharoVM in the Ubuntu repositories and for all Ubuntu verions. In the real world, this is not done. The squeak or Pharo VM that usually are at the repositories are old and not for all Ubuntu versions. Thus, I think the easiest way to install it, is this (as Dale said): 1) Download the VM from here http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22745/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux.zip 2) Unzip it somewhere. 3) And then you can just execute VM. Suppose you uncompress the zip in /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/ Then you can open a terminal an do /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/squeak /home/doru/pharo-images/myxxximage.image Now I notice that it would be better if the executable file is called pharo instead of squeak That's all. Best Mariano On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com<mailto:tudor.girba@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, What is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on Ubuntu? Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com<http://www.tudorgirba.com> "From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar." _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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Agreed that naming it Pharo would be better, but the name is of less interest to me than the vm sources. If there are Pharo-specific changes, I do not see them anywere??
+1 This was discussed in another thread, but I cannot find it right now. It would be VERY useful to have VM sources uploaded to the webpage. The problem is I don't know where to get the VM sources neither the plugins. I know a lot of people that stands "I won't put something in production if I cannot build it by myself". So, having the sources in the webpage is something good I think. Cheers Mariano
Bill
------------------------------ *From:* pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] *On Behalf Of *Mariano Martinez Peck *Sent:* Saturday, October 31, 2009 11:44 AM
*To:* Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu
Hi Doru: In a wonderful world, you would have latest PharoVM in the Ubuntu repositories and for all Ubuntu verions. In the real world, this is not done. The squeak or Pharo VM that usually are at the repositories are old and not for all Ubuntu versions. Thus, I think the easiest way to install it, is this (as Dale said):
1) Download the VM from here http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22745/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux.zip 2) Unzip it somewhere. 3) And then you can just execute VM. Suppose you uncompress the zip in /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/ Then you can open a terminal an do /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/squeak /home/doru/pharo-images/myxxximage.image
Now I notice that it would be better if the executable file is called pharo instead of squeak
That's all.
Best
Mariano
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi,
What is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on Ubuntu?
Cheers, Doru
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The vm sources are in svn. You want them snapshotted in a zip? Perhaps just a link to the vm web page would do. Cheers mike On Tuesday, November 3, 2009, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/10/31 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab@anest.ufl.edu <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'bschwab@anest.ufl.edu');>>
Agreed that naming it Pharo would be better, but the name is of less interest to me than the vm sources. If there are Pharo-specific changes, I do not see them anywere??
+1Â This was discussed in another thread, but I cannot find it right now. It would be VERY useful to have VM sources uploaded to the webpage. The problem is I don't know where to get the VM sources neither the plugins.
I know a lot of people that stands "I won't put something in production if I cannot build it by myself". So, having the sources in the webpage is something good I think.
Cheers
Mariano
Bill
From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 11:44 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu
Hi Doru: In a wonderful world, you would have latest PharoVM in the Ubuntu repositories and for all Ubuntu verions. In the real world, this is not done. The squeak or Pharo VM that usually are at the repositories are old and not for all Ubuntu versions. Thus, I think the easiest way to install it, is this (as Dale said):
1) Download the VM from here http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22745/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux.zip
2) Unzip it somewhere. 3) And then you can just execute VM. Suppose you uncompress the zip in /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/ Then you can open a terminal an do /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/squeak  /home/doru/pharo-images/myxxximage.image
Now I notice that it would be better if the executable file is called pharo instead of squeak
That's all.
Best
Mariano
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'tudor.girba@gmail.com');>> wrote: Hi,
What is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on Ubuntu?
Cheers, Doru
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Agreed that naming it Pharo would be better, but the name is of less interest to me than the vm sources. If there are Pharo-specific changes, I do not see them anywere??
There are no Pharo specific changes in the VM source. linux/unix/windows/mac platform support source at http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ iphone source at http://svn.isqueak.org/vm/ (However I will be merging this back into the squeakvm.org tree later this fall. vmmaker at http://www.squeaksource.com/VMMaker detailed build instructions at http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/trunk/platforms/Mac%20OS/vm/Document... For os-x you may find that people take the Squeak.app, alter the name, info.plist settings, the binary name for their one-click experiences, but in general they do not build a new binary. -- = = = ======================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com = = = ========================================================================
John, I would be happy to give a reproducible example, but one eludes me at present. To add to the fun, I have now seen the image quit on a second Linux box; this time, my laptop. I am fairly certain that it crashed over a mouse wheel event. Both machines are running Ubuntu 9.10, which might be the trigger of my new-found hassles. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of John M McIntosh Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:49 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu
Agreed that naming it Pharo would be better, but the name is of less interest to me than the vm sources. If there are Pharo-specific changes, I do not see them anywere??
There are no Pharo specific changes in the VM source. linux/unix/windows/mac platform support source at http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ iphone source at http://svn.isqueak.org/vm/ (However I will be merging this back into the squeakvm.org tree later this fall. vmmaker at http://www.squeaksource.com/VMMaker detailed build instructions at http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/trunk/platforms/Mac%20OS/vm/Document... For os-x you may find that people take the Squeak.app, alter the name, info.plist settings, the binary name for their one-click experiences, but in general they do not build a new binary. -- = = = ======================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com = = = ======================================================================== _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Well beyond the simple memory access violation (seg fault) type of failure then. (a) if you have configured your vm to use a limited amount of memory and you enter a recursive loop the VM likely will thrash thru the available memory in a small number of milliseconds on a fast machine then exit(). I believe by default it's 1GB, but if there is no paging involved to find 1GB of ram it can happen quite quickly. (b) Older unix/linux vm are susceptible to crashing if they expand image memory over the 2GB address boundary. I can't say exactly what version that would be, but if you supply the build information for your VM SmalltalkImage current getSystemAttribute: 1004 and SmalltalkImage current getSystemAttribute: 1006 That might give a clue to if the fixes for the problem are in the VM you are using. On 2009-11-03, at 11:08 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
John,
I would be happy to give a reproducible example, but one eludes me at present. To add to the fun, I have now seen the image quit on a second Linux box; this time, my laptop. I am fairly certain that it crashed over a mouse wheel event.
Both machines are running Ubuntu 9.10, which might be the trigger of my new-found hassles.
Bill
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Mike, A link would be great. A zip file would no doubt help some too, though http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ linked from http://squeakvm.org/unix/ is perhaps better than a zip. I _think_ users of a zip would want to see an individual file or two to check a theory about a bug or to see how something works; anyone setting out to build a vm would probably want to grab the latest source. Thanks! Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Michael Roberts Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:27 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu The vm sources are in svn. You want them snapshotted in a zip? Perhaps just a link to the vm web page would do. Cheers mike On Tuesday, November 3, 2009, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/10/31 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab@anest.ufl.edu <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'bschwab@anest.ufl.edu');>>
Agreed that naming it Pharo would be better, but the name is of less interest to me than the vm sources. If there are Pharo-specific changes, I do not see them anywere??
+1Â This was discussed in another thread, but I cannot find it right now. It would be VERY useful to have VM sources uploaded to the webpage. The problem is I don't know where to get the VM sources neither the plugins.
I know a lot of people that stands "I won't put something in production if I cannot build it by myself". So, having the sources in the webpage is something good I think.
Cheers
Mariano
Bill
From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 11:44 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu
Hi Doru: In a wonderful world, you would have latest PharoVM in the Ubuntu repositories and for all Ubuntu verions. In the real world, this is not done. The squeak or Pharo VM that usually are at the repositories are old and not for all Ubuntu versions. Thus, I think the easiest way to install it, is this (as Dale said):
1) Download the VM from here http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22745/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux.z ip
2) Unzip it somewhere. 3) And then you can just execute VM. Suppose you uncompress the zip in /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/ Then you can open a terminal an do /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/squeak  /home/doru/pharo-images/myxxximage.image
Now I notice that it would be better if the executable file is called pharo instead of squeak
That's all.
Best
Mariano
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'tudor.girba@gmail.com');>> wrote: Hi,
What is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on Ubuntu?
Cheers, Doru
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar."
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well i was being slightly rhetorical. I don't think it makes sense to zip the sources, it has no value to me. If you are going to be building VMs then you must learn how that sub-community & process works. We should link the information John has provided somewhere. I would suggest detail on a wiki page, and a link off the pharo-project page for those too curious. cheers, Mike On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab@anest.ufl.edu> wrote:
Mike,
A link would be great. Â A zip file would no doubt help some too, though
 http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/
linked from
is perhaps better than a zip. Â I _think_ users of a zip would want to see an individual file or two to check a theory about a bug or to see how something works; anyone setting out to build a vm would probably want to grab the latest source.
Thanks!
Bill
-----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Michael Roberts Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:27 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu
The vm sources are in svn. You want them snapshotted in a zip?
Perhaps just a link to the vm web page would do.
Cheers mike
On Tuesday, November 3, 2009, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/10/31 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab@anest.ufl.edu <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'bschwab@anest.ufl.edu');>>
Agreed that naming it Pharo would be better, but the name is of less interest to me than the vm sources. If there are Pharo-specific changes, I do not see them anywere??
+1Â This was discussed in another thread, but I cannot find it right now. It would be VERY useful to have VM sources uploaded to the webpage. The problem is I don't know where to get the VM sources neither the plugins.
I know a lot of people that stands "I won't put something in production if I cannot build it by myself". So, having the sources in the webpage is something good I think.
Cheers
Mariano
Bill
From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 11:44 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] vm on ubuntu
Hi Doru: In a wonderful world, you would have latest PharoVM in the Ubuntu repositories and for all Ubuntu verions. In the real world, this is not done. The squeak or Pharo VM that usually are at the repositories are old and not for all Ubuntu versions. Thus, I think the easiest way to install it, is this (as Dale said):
1) Download the VM from here http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22745/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux.z ip
2) Unzip it somewhere. 3) And then you can just execute VM. Suppose you uncompress the zip in /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/ Then you can open a terminal an do /home/doru/pharoVM/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux/squeak  /home/doru/pharo-images/myxxximage.image
Now I notice that it would be better if the executable file is called pharo instead of squeak
That's all.
Best
Mariano
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba@gmail.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'tudor.girba@gmail.com');>> wrote: Hi,
What  is the preferred way to install a Pharo vm on  Ubuntu?
Cheers, Doru
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