for milestone 1 - it would be good to have a Pharo in the flap (if any flap) and any other better looking lesssqueakish look :L) if one of you has time :) - when do we want to finish. It would be good to have milestone 1 out for esug or before. - I would really like to see the items of 3.10 examined. for milestone 2 - better building process - something that I would like us to do is to have a task force writing some good class comments. If you can think about that it would be good. Purpose of the class Main methods Main collaborators Example Internal representation Stef
I agree. For Milestone 1 I suggest: - carefully check list of 3.10 (and maybe Croquet) fixes and integrate the ones that make sense (notice, on our wiki there exist pages listing 3.10.* and Croquet fixes). - Check for important fixes posted on Mantis that were not integrated in 3.10 or were posted more recently. - Make all remaining tests pass or mark them as expected failures (only 2 left!) Anything else that would be valuable and does not take too much effort? This version would then be a good candidate for a first release. It would be good if we have a first release as this allows people to start moving to Pharo. And its also good that we do not have fundamental changes that would require code migration. Adrian PS: Stef, I do not understand what you mean by "putting Pharo in the flap" On Jun 25, 2008, at 09:11 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
for milestone 1 - it would be good to have a Pharo in the flap (if any flap) and any other better looking lesssqueakish look :L) if one of you has time :)
- when do we want to finish. It would be good to have milestone 1 out for esug or before. - I would really like to see the items of 3.10 examined.
for milestone 2
- better building process
- something that I would like us to do is to have a task force writing some good class comments. If you can think about that it would be good.
Purpose of the class Main methods Main collaborators Example Internal representation
Stef
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2008/6/25 Adrian Lienhard <adi@netstyle.ch>:
I agree. For Milestone 1 I suggest:
- carefully check list of 3.10 (and maybe Croquet) fixes and integrate the ones that make sense (notice, on our wiki there exist pages listing 3.10.* and Croquet fixes).
- Check for important fixes posted on Mantis that were not integrated in 3.10 or were posted more recently.
- Make all remaining tests pass or mark them as expected failures (only 2 left!)
Anything else that would be valuable and does not take too much effort?
This version would then be a good candidate for a first release. It would be good if we have a first release as this allows people to start moving to Pharo. And its also good that we do not have fundamental changes that would require code migration.
Adrian
PS: Stef, I do not understand what you mean by "putting Pharo in the flap"
I guess he would like to have the Pharo Logo into a flap. -- Serge Stinckwich Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/
I mean not having squeak in the flap name :) Now this is cool that you come up with this list because I like it a lot since I did not want to push it alone. But now this is different. This is a good goal. It would be good if we can really push that. BTW I will be at RMLL then on "holiday" working on the seaside book. So I may be not reactuve as now (I hope my parent will have a good connection). So next week I will be connected day long, the week after nothing clear, the week after I hope that the box will arrived and that the network will be working. STef On Jun 25, 2008, at 11:59 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
I agree. For Milestone 1 I suggest:
- carefully check list of 3.10 (and maybe Croquet) fixes and integrate the ones that make sense (notice, on our wiki there exist pages listing 3.10.* and Croquet fixes).
- Check for important fixes posted on Mantis that were not integrated in 3.10 or were posted more recently.
- Make all remaining tests pass or mark them as expected failures (only 2 left!)
Anything else that would be valuable and does not take too much effort?
This version would then be a good candidate for a first release. It would be good if we have a first release as this allows people to start moving to Pharo. And its also good that we do not have fundamental changes that would require code migration.
Adrian
PS: Stef, I do not understand what you mean by "putting Pharo in the flap"
On Jun 25, 2008, at 09:11 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
for milestone 1 - it would be good to have a Pharo in the flap (if any flap) and any other better looking lesssqueakish look :L) if one of you has time :)
- when do we want to finish. It would be good to have milestone 1 out for esug or before. - I would really like to see the items of 3.10 examined.
for milestone 2
- better building process
- something that I would like us to do is to have a task force writing some good class comments. If you can think about that it would be good.
Purpose of the class Main methods Main collaborators Example Internal representation
Stef
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On Thursday 26 June 2008 08:48:58 Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
I mean not having squeak in the flap name :)
it's done (not really hard to achieve). I've uploaded PharoFlap package to PhariInbox (sorry, I've forgot SLICE in the name) : It simply rename squeak flap - 'Squeak' -> 'Pharo' - add Flap>>newPharoFlap as a replacement method for Flap>>newSqueakFlap - makes Flap>>newSqueakFlap as deprecated The look is unchanged (except the color of the flap). alain
thanks! Stef On Jun 26, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Alain Plantec wrote:
On Thursday 26 June 2008 08:48:58 Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
I mean not having squeak in the flap name :)
it's done (not really hard to achieve). I've uploaded PharoFlap package to PhariInbox (sorry, I've forgot SLICE in the name) : It simply rename squeak flap - 'Squeak' -> 'Pharo' - add Flap>>newPharoFlap as a replacement method for Flap>>newSqueakFlap - makes Flap>>newSqueakFlap as deprecated The look is unchanged (except the color of the flap). alain
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On Wednesday 25 June 2008 09:11:20 Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
for milestone 1 - it would be good to have a Pharo in the flap (if any flap) and any other better looking lesssqueakish look :L) here is a proposition of a front morph that shows pharo logo plus 6 big buttons (About, Version, What's new, Browse, Save and Update). It is only visible when World has less than 3 windows. So, if you want to see it after having loaded the package, you maybe have to close some windows. It is on PharoInbox (PharoFront package). any opinion ? alain
what is browse? save -> Save why do we need this button (save)? May be the button should be smaller. Stef
On Wednesday 25 June 2008 09:11:20 Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
for milestone 1 - it would be good to have a Pharo in the flap (if any flap) and any other better looking lesssqueakish look :L) here is a proposition of a front morph that shows pharo logo plus 6 big buttons (About, Version, What's new, Browse, Save and Update). It is only visible when World has less than 3 windows. So, if you want to see it after having loaded the package, you maybe have to close some windows. It is on PharoInbox (PharoFront package). any opinion ? alain <pharoFront.jpg>_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Hi Alain, To avoid having this morph hidden by others, what do you think about putting it in a flap? Noury On 28 juin 08, at 02:52, Alain Plantec wrote:
On Wednesday 25 June 2008 09:11:20 Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
for milestone 1 - it would be good to have a Pharo in the flap (if any flap) and any other better looking lesssqueakish look :L) here is a proposition of a front morph that shows pharo logo plus 6 big buttons (About, Version, What's new, Browse, Save and Update). It is only visible when World has less than 3 windows. So, if you want to see it after having loaded the package, you maybe have to close some windows. It is on PharoInbox (PharoFront package). any opinion ? alain <pharoFront.jpg>_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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On Saturday 28 June 2008 07:40:44 Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
what is browse?
It opens a browser. I found it handy for first browsers.
save -> Save ok
why do we need this button (save)? save is present in the pharo (old squeak) flap. but it is just a proposition.
May be the button should be smaller. I can make several tries. The idea is to avoid the big blank screen and to make first screen homey (accueillant in french, I'm not sure in english). It must not be to intrusive too, this is why it is hidden when you have more than 3 windows. I can remove some buttons, add others, add a welcome text... alain
Stef
On Wednesday 25 June 2008 09:11:20 Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
for milestone 1 - it would be good to have a Pharo in the flap (if any flap) and any other better looking lesssqueakish look :L) here is a proposition of a front morph that shows pharo logo plus 6 big buttons (About, Version, What's new, Browse, Save and Update). It is only visible when World has less than 3 windows. So, if you want to see it after having loaded the package, you maybe have to close some windows. It is on PharoInbox (PharoFront package). any opinion ? alain <pharoFront.jpg>_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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On Saturday 28 June 2008 08:35:16 Noury Bouraqadi wrote:
Hi Alain,
To avoid having this morph hidden by others, what do you think about putting it in a flap? Hi Noury, yes! or a mix. what do you think of the following solution: World has less than 3 opened windows then PharoFront present in the world, Pharo flap is hidden else, is it removed from the world and Pharo flap (which is containing it or a smaller version) is shown but closed.
alain
Noury On 28 juin 08, at 02:52, Alain Plantec wrote:
On Wednesday 25 June 2008 09:11:20 Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
for milestone 1 - it would be good to have a Pharo in the flap (if any flap) and any other better looking lesssqueakish look :L) here is a proposition of a front morph that shows pharo logo plus 6 big buttons (About, Version, What's new, Browse, Save and Update). It is only visible when World has less than 3 windows. So, if you want to see it after having loaded the package, you maybe have to close some windows. It is on PharoInbox (PharoFront package). any opinion ? alain <pharoFront.jpg>_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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Hi alain I loaded you code but the flap did not change what is the magic invocation. Stef On Jun 26, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Alain Plantec wrote:
On Thursday 26 June 2008 08:48:58 Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
I mean not having squeak in the flap name :)
it's done (not really hard to achieve). I've uploaded PharoFlap package to PhariInbox (sorry, I've forgot SLICE in the name) : It simply rename squeak flap - 'Squeak' -> 'Pharo' - add Flap>>newPharoFlap as a replacement method for Flap>>newSqueakFlap - makes Flap>>newSqueakFlap as deprecated The look is unchanged (except the color of the flap). alain
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On Saturday 28 June 2008 10:53:22 Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi alain
I loaded you code but the flap did not change what is the magic invocation. ah! World menu/flaps/Destroy all shared flaps Then World menu/flaps/Install default shared flaps. or Flaps disableGlobalFlaps; enableGlobalFlaps.
alain
Stef On Jun 26, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Alain Plantec wrote:
On Thursday 26 June 2008 08:48:58 Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
I mean not having squeak in the flap name :)
it's done (not really hard to achieve). I've uploaded PharoFlap package to PhariInbox (sorry, I've forgot SLICE in the name) : It simply rename squeak flap - 'Squeak' -> 'Pharo' - add Flap>>newPharoFlap as a replacement method for Flap>>newSqueakFlap - makes Flap>>newSqueakFlap as deprecated The look is unchanged (except the color of the flap). alain
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I have the impression that I would not bother with the buttons Because you do not want to have them on the background all the time. Stef On Jun 28, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Alain Plantec wrote:
On Saturday 28 June 2008 07:40:44 Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
what is browse?
It opens a browser. I found it handy for first browsers.
save -> Save ok
why do we need this button (save)? save is present in the pharo (old squeak) flap. but it is just a proposition.
May be the button should be smaller. I can make several tries. The idea is to avoid the big blank screen and to make first screen homey (accueillant in french, I'm not sure in english). It must not be to intrusive too, this is why it is hidden when you have more than 3 windows. I can remove some buttons, add others, add a welcome text... alain
Stef
On Wednesday 25 June 2008 09:11:20 Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
for milestone 1 - it would be good to have a Pharo in the flap (if any flap) and any other better looking lesssqueakish look :L) here is a proposition of a front morph that shows pharo logo plus 6 big buttons (About, Version, What's new, Browse, Save and Update). It is only visible when World has less than 3 windows. So, if you want to see it after having loaded the package, you maybe have to close some windows. It is on PharoInbox (PharoFront package). any opinion ? alain <pharoFront.jpg>_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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On Saturday 28 June 2008 17:53:27 Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
I have the impression that I would not bother with the buttons Because you do not want to have them on the background all the time.
Stef
yes, I agree, this is why it automatically hide himself when there are more than 3 opened window. but let's forget this try, it is not so important so far. alain
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