come on tooth pick has even documentation and it does not look complex. redoing all over things does not reduce bugs and http://www.metaprog.com/Toothpick/docs/quickstart.html It looks clean and simple. Stef On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote: why don;t you look look at toothpick?

Because I don't have time to learn a new logging framework, nor to make it work on Pharo. I don't plan to be part of a logging framework. I just needed something really EASY for my projects. So, I remembered Germán doing that, I know it was working in Pharo, and it took me 5 minutes to understand. 2 hours more to add my features, and that's all :) I just make it public for other users.

Chees

Mariano

On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:23 AM, Yanni Chiu wrote:

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On 20/10/10 9:36 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

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What I did basically is to define SimpleLogger like the public API. But then, this class delegates to a LoggerStrategy. I created the following implementations: TranscriptLoggerStrategy, NullLoggerStrategy, FileLoggerStrategy and FixesFileNameLoggerStrategy. In addition, I created a superclass for them, marking the API with SimpleLogger. This class is LoggerStrategy.

So, now you can:

- Enable and disable easily the logging (thanks to NullLoggerStrategy). - Change on runtime WHERE or HOW to log (just change the strategy). - Be able to write into a File, a Transcript, a FixedFileName, or nothing. - Extend to you own strategy (FileAppendLoggerStrategy?? SocketLoggerStrategy? etc...)

My 2cents. I've not used or looked at SimpleLogger, but recall that it was a single class, plus a metacello config class.

The new functionality sounds very useful, but is it still simple. It sounds like it was simple to add extra features - maybe because SimpleLogger was simple. Will the next person who comes along find a similarly simple implementation that can be easily adapted to specific needs.

A hierarchy of strategy classes no longer sounds simple. What if I don't need all the different strategies loaded, will the configuration then allow multiple build targets for various individual or groups of strategies. Starting to sound complicated.

IMHO, it should be a fork: SomewhatSimpleOnItsWayToComplicatedLogging :)

-- Yanni

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