Hi this is nearly more than a year that I ask if we can have a way to NOT have "" when we print a result in the tool. What is the status? This %#$&^$&*(&)**&^$%#$&%*^&( popup BREAKS the flow when writing tests. I'm FED UP to have to remove the " at the beginning and end of my expression result. We got an long discussion and now how it is handled? I have the impression that the strategy here is to make sure that people believe that they are heard but do not care. Stef -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
I also don't like "next line" behavior when result inserted at next line instead of cursor position 28 Ñнв. 2017 г. 9:28 AM полÑзоваÑÐµÐ»Ñ "stepharong" <stepharong@free.fr> напиÑал:
Hi
this is nearly more than a year that I ask if we can have a way to NOT have "" when we print a result in the tool. What is the status? This %#$&^$&*(&)**&^$%#$&%*^&( popup BREAKS the flow when writing tests. I'm FED UP to have to remove the " at the beginning and end of my expression result.
We got an long discussion and now how it is handled? I have the impression that the strategy here is to make sure that people believe that they are heard but do not care.
Stef
-- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
There has been discussion about that too, but the resolution was that it was a feature or something. http://forum.world.st/Keep-print-it-output-on-the-same-line-in-GTPlayground-... so I use my solution mentioned there in a startup script ( https://github.com/peteruhnak/pharo-scripts/blob/master/config/5.0/inline-pl... ) Peter On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 10:30:04AM +0100, Denis Kudriashov wrote:
I also don't like "next line" behavior when result inserted at next line instead of cursor position
28 Ñнв. 2017 г. 9:28 AM полÑзоваÑÐµÐ»Ñ "stepharong" <stepharong@free.fr> напиÑал:
Hi
this is nearly more than a year that I ask if we can have a way to NOT have "" when we print a result in the tool. What is the status? This %#$&^$&*(&)**&^$%#$&%*^&( popup BREAKS the flow when writing tests. I'm FED UP to have to remove the " at the beginning and end of my expression result.
We got an long discussion and now how it is handled? I have the impression that the strategy here is to make sure that people believe that they are heard but do not care.
Stef
-- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Hi, The solution we agreed upon was integrated since quite some time now. Try this: - type 42 - press Cmd+p - press Cmd+p It produces: Cheers, Doru
On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:27 AM, stepharong <stepharong@free.fr> wrote:
Hi
this is nearly more than a year that I ask if we can have a way to NOT have "" when we print a result in the tool. What is the status? This %#$&^$&*(&)**&^$%#$&%*^&( popup BREAKS the flow when writing tests. I'm FED UP to have to remove the " at the beginning and end of my expression result.
We got an long discussion and now how it is handled? I have the impression that the strategy here is to make sure that people believe that they are heard but do not care.
Stef
-- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com âSoftware has no shape. Actually, it has no one shape. It has many."
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
The solution we agreed upon was integrated since quite some time now.
Here is the last discussion I know of... http://forum.world.st/when-Cmd-P-can-just-display-a-string-in-the-debugger-t...
Try this: - type 42 - press Cmd+p - press Cmd+p
<snip> Stef, does that work for you? One minor improvement could be leaving the inserted result unselected and instead place the cursor to the left of the inserted result, ready to type " equals: " The inserted result doesn't need to remain selected to be easy to delete, since the user could already have used <Backspace> to delete the popup. cheers -ben
Cheers, Doru
On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:27 AM, stepharong <stepharong@free.fr> wrote:
Hi
this is nearly more than a year that I ask if we can have a way to NOT have "" when we print a result in the tool. What is the status? This %#$&^$&*(&)**&^$%#$&%*^&( popup BREAKS the flow when writing tests. I'm FED UP to have to remove the " at the beginning and end of my expression result.
We got an long discussion and now how it is handled? I have the impression that the strategy here is to make sure that people believe that they are heard but do not care.
Stef
-- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
âSoftware has no shape. Actually, it has no one shape. It has many."
it would be nice if print was removed completely and instead be replaced with an embedded inspector, but then thats just a dream of mine of workspace , system browser and inspector integrated in one tool and one GUI. On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 4:46 PM Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
The solution we agreed upon was integrated since quite some time now.
Here is the last discussion I know of...
http://forum.world.st/when-Cmd-P-can-just-display-a-string-in-the-debugger-t...
Try this: - type 42 - press Cmd+p - press Cmd+p
<snip>
Stef, does that work for you? One minor improvement could be leaving the inserted result unselected and instead place the cursor to the left of the inserted result, ready to type " equals: "
The inserted result doesn't need to remain selected to be easy to delete, since the user could already have used <Backspace> to delete the popup.
cheers -ben
Cheers, Doru
On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:27 AM, stepharong <stepharong@free.fr> wrote:
Hi
this is nearly more than a year that I ask if we can have a way to NOT have "" when we print a result in the tool. What is the status? This %#$&^$&*(&)**&^$%#$&%*^&( popup BREAKS the flow when writing tests. I'm FED UP to have to remove the " at the beginning and end of my expression result.
We got an long discussion and now how it is handled? I have the impression that the strategy here is to make sure that people believe that they are heard but do not care.
Stef
-- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
âSoftware has no shape. Actually, it has no one shape. It has many."
it would be nice if print was removed completely and instead be replaced with an embedded inspector, but then thats just a dream of mine of workspace , system browser and inspector integrated >in one tool and one GUI. I have no problem that people invent new approaches but not at the expenses of breaking working flow. And I do not see how what you propose can help me in my case.
Stef
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 4:46 PM Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
The solution we agreed upon was integrated since quite some time now.
Here is the last discussion I know of... http://forum.world.st/when-Cmd-P-can-just-display-a-string-in-the-debugger-t...
Try this: - type 42 - press Cmd+p - press Cmd+p
<snip>
Stef, does that work for you? One minor improvement could be leaving the inserted result unselected and instead place the cursor to the left of the inserted result, ready to type " equals: "
The inserted result doesn't need to remain selected to be easy to delete,since the user could already have used <Backspace> to delete the popup.
cheers -ben
Cheers, Doru
On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:27 AM, stepharong <stepharong@free.fr> wrote:
Hi
this is nearly more than a year that I ask if we can have a way to NOT have "" when we print a result in the tool. What is the status? This %#$&^$&*(&)**&^$%#$&%*^&( popup BREAKS the flow when writing tests. I'm FED UP to have to remove the " at the beginning and end of my expression result.
We got an long discussion and now how it is handled? I have the impression that the strategy here is to make sure that people believe that they are heard but do not care.
Stef
--Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
âSoftware has no shape. Actually, it has no one shape. It has many."
-- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 15:44:59 +0100, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
The solution we agreed upon was integrated since quite some time now.
Here is the last discussion I know of... http://forum.world.st/when-Cmd-P-can-just-display-a-string-in-the-debugger-t...
Try this: - type 42 - press Cmd+p - press Cmd+p
<snip>
Stef, does that work for you?
Yes at least I do not have to remove "" all the time.
One minor improvement could be leaving the inserted result unselected and instead place the cursor to the left of the inserted result, ready to type " equals: "
The inserted result doesn't need to remain selected to be easy to delete, since the user could already have used <Backspace> to delete the popup.
cheers -ben
Cheers, Doru
On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:27 AM, stepharong <stepharong@free.fr> wrote:
Hi
this is nearly more than a year that I ask if we can have a way to NOT have "" when we print a result in the tool. What is the status? This %#$&^$&*(&)**&^$%#$&%*^&( popup BREAKS the flow when writing tests. I'm FED UP to have to remove the " at the beginning and end of my expression result.
We got an long discussion and now how it is handled? I have the impression that the strategy here is to make sure that people believe that they are heard but do not care.
Stef
--Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
âSoftware has no shape. Actually, it has no one shape. It has many."
-- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Ok then it is good for me. Now I had no idea how to discover it. Stef
Hi,
The solution we agreed upon was integrated since quite some time now.
Try this: - type 42 - press Cmd+p - press Cmd+p
It produces:
Cheers, Doru
On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:27 AM, stepharong <stepharong@free.fr> wrote:
Hi
this is nearly more than a year that I ask if we can have a way to NOT have "" when we print a result in the tool. What is the status? This %#$&^$&*(&)**&^$%#$&%*^&( popup BREAKS the flow when writing tests. I'm FED UP to have to remove the " at the beginning and end of my expression result.
We got an long discussion and now how it is handled? I have the impression that the strategy here is to make sure that people believe that they are heard but do not care.
Stef
--Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
âSoftware has no shape. Actually, it has no one shape. It has many."
-- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
I learnt something too, it will make less inspectors popping all over due to unreadability w/ the theme I use due to accessibility needs. Phil On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 4:30 PM, stepharong <stepharong@free.fr> wrote:
Ok then it is good for me. Now I had no idea how to discover it.
Stef
Hi,
The solution we agreed upon was integrated since quite some time now.
Try this: - type 42 - press Cmd+p - press Cmd+p
It produces:
Cheers, Doru
On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:27 AM, stepharong <stepharong@free.fr> wrote:
Hi
this is nearly more than a year that I ask if we can have a way to NOT have "" when we print a result in the tool. What is the status? This %#$&^$&*(&)**&^$%#$&%*^&( popup BREAKS the flow when writing tests. I'm FED UP to have to remove the " at the beginning and end of my expression result.
We got an long discussion and now how it is handled? I have the impression that the strategy here is to make sure that people believe that they are heard but do not care.
Stef
-- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
âSoftware has no shape. Actually, it has no one shape. It has many."
-- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
BTW the popup is unreadable in Pharo 5.0, which makes the C-P C-P mandatory... Phil On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
The solution we agreed upon was integrated since quite some time now.
Try this: - type 42 - press Cmd+p - press Cmd+p
It produces:
Cheers, Doru
On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:27 AM, stepharong <stepharong@free.fr> wrote:
Hi
this is nearly more than a year that I ask if we can have a way to NOT have "" when we print a result in the tool. What is the status? This %#$&^$&*(&)**&^$%#$&%*^&( popup BREAKS the flow when writing tests. I'm FED UP to have to remove the " at the beginning and end of my expression result.
We got an long discussion and now how it is handled? I have the impression that the strategy here is to make sure that people believe that they are heard but do not care.
Stef
-- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
âSoftware has no shape. Actually, it has no one shape. It has many."
I mean in the Darktheme. On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
The solution we agreed upon was integrated since quite some time now.
Try this: - type 42 - press Cmd+p - press Cmd+p
It produces:
Cheers, Doru
On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:27 AM, stepharong <stepharong@free.fr> wrote:
Hi
this is nearly more than a year that I ask if we can have a way to NOT have "" when we print a result in the tool. What is the status? This %#$&^$&*(&)**&^$%#$&%*^&( popup BREAKS the flow when writing tests. I'm FED UP to have to remove the " at the beginning and end of my expression result.
We got an long discussion and now how it is handled? I have the impression that the strategy here is to make sure that people believe that they are heard but do not care.
Stef
-- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
âSoftware has no shape. Actually, it has no one shape. It has many."
On 28 Jan 2017, at 23:56, phil@highoctane.be wrote:
I mean in the Darktheme.
I have no problem with it and darktheme: Esteban
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: Hi,
The solution we agreed upon was integrated since quite some time now.
Try this: - type 42 - press Cmd+p - press Cmd+p
It produces:
<print-playground.png>
Cheers, Doru
On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:27 AM, stepharong <stepharong@free.fr <mailto:stepharong@free.fr>> wrote:
Hi
this is nearly more than a year that I ask if we can have a way to NOT have "" when we print a result in the tool. What is the status? This %#$&^$&*(&)**&^$%#$&%*^&( popup BREAKS the flow when writing tests. I'm FED UP to have to remove the " at the beginning and end of my expression result.
We got an long discussion and now how it is handled? I have the impression that the strategy here is to make sure that people believe that they are heard but do not care.
Stef
-- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ <http://www.opera.com/mail/>
-- www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> www.feenk.com <http://www.feenk.com/>
âSoftware has no shape. Actually, it has no one shape. It has many."
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Ben Coman -
Denis Kudriashov -
Dimitris Chloupis -
Esteban Lorenzano -
Peter Uhnak -
phil＠highoctane.be -
stepharong -
Tudor Girba