On 22 Feb 2014, at 15:24, jannik laval <jannik.laval@gmail.com> wrote:

Does it make sense to add energy on it ? Probably, we should investigate UIPainter.

may be the first thing to do would be to convert some of the widgets to work in Pharo with announcements. I did not have the time to verify but I did the following experience I built a simple naive browser using self changed:/updates then I wanted to rewrite it using Announcement only and it did not work probably because some of our widgets are not done to be used with announcements (probably they expect changed….) so it may be the same with his widgets. Stef

Jannik

2014-02-21 22:02 GMT+01:00 Stephan Eggermont <stephan@stack.nl>: At the moment I'm moving, so I have very little time to do something about it. Current state is described in a thread from end of last year:

http://forum.world.st/have-a-question-for-morphic-Designer-in-pharo-td473130...

Stephan

-- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/

Hi Steff, may I ask why Phobos is not considered as a good candidate as a basis for an interface designer? I have experience with PARTS (which is the best application in the field I have ever seen in ST environment) and I believe that it could be used as a basis for tools of this kind. If anyone is interested in PARTS (included in VSE ST) as a model, I will be pleased to send it. Lorenzo Da: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] Per conto di Pharo4Stef Inviato: sabato 22 febbraio 2014 17:19 A: Pharo Development List Oggetto: Re: [Pharo-dev] Morphic UI designer On 22 Feb 2014, at 15:24, jannik laval < <mailto:jannik.laval@gmail.com> jannik.laval@gmail.com> wrote: Does it make sense to add energy on it ? Probably, we should investigate UIPainter. may be the first thing to do would be to convert some of the widgets to work in Pharo with announcements. I did not have the time to verify but I did the following experience I built a simple naive browser using self changed:/updates then I wanted to rewrite it using Announcement only and it did not work probably because some of our widgets are not done to be used with announcements (probably they expect changed….) so it may be the same with his widgets. Stef Jannik 2014-02-21 22:02 GMT+01:00 Stephan Eggermont < <mailto:stephan@stack.nl> stephan@stack.nl>: At the moment I'm moving, so I have very little time to do something about it. Current state is described in a thread from end of last year: <http://forum.world.st/have-a-question-for-morphic-Designer-in-pharo-td47313 07.html> http://forum.world.st/have-a-question-for-morphic-Designer-in-pharo-td473130 7.html Stephan -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur <http://www.jannik-laval.eu/> http://www.jannik-laval.eu <http://car.mines-douai.fr/> http://car.mines-douai.fr/

2014-02-23 10:09 GMT+01:00 Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo@edor.it>:

Hi Steff,

may I ask why Phobos is not considered as a good candidate as a basis for an interface designer?

It's simple. For example if you want to develop an application for tablets, XULRunner is not the right choice. The same for highly interactive multimedia applications etc. It's aimed on business applications with native look&feel. Pharo wants to provide own multiplatform UI with zoomable accelerated graphics. As the default option. Our tools should be independent on UIframework. That's why we have Spec. I haven't developed Phobos to provide the only right way how to render UI. In fact, classical GUI has the best days behind. On the other hand, Pharostill needs some way how to support it and XULRunner is interesting way how to do that and already working. Cheers, -- Pavel

I have experience with PARTS (which is the best application in the field I have ever seen in ST environment) and I believe that it could be used as a basis for tools of this kind.

If anyone is interested in PARTS (included in VSE ST) as a model, I will be pleased to send it.

Lorenzo

*Da:* Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org<pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org>] *Per conto di *Pharo4Stef *Inviato:* sabato 22 febbraio 2014 17:19 *A:* Pharo Development List *Oggetto:* Re: [Pharo-dev] Morphic UI designer

On 22 Feb 2014, at 15:24, jannik laval <jannik.laval@gmail.com> wrote:

Does it make sense to add energy on it ?

Probably, we should investigate UIPainter.

may be the first thing to do would be to convert some of the widgets to work in Pharo with announcements.

I did not have the time to verify but I did the following experience

I built a simple naive browser using self changed:/updates

then I wanted to rewrite it using Announcement only and it did not work probably because some of our widgets

are not done to be used with announcements (probably they expect changed....)

so it may be the same with his widgets.

Stef

Jannik

2014-02-21 22:02 GMT+01:00 Stephan Eggermont <stephan@stack.nl>:

At the moment I'm moving, so I have very little time to do something about it. Current state is described in a thread from end of last year:

http://forum.world.st/have-a-question-for-morphic-Designer-in-pharo-td473130...

Stephan

--

~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/