Just wanted to inform you that pharo does not work on ubuntu 13.04 at least using this link http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo3.0-linux.zip it fails at running the binary inside the bin folder, i tried to run it manually via terminal and still does not execute. It gives no error , it just says that the file does not exist. Whatever that may mean.
On 25 June 2013 14:33, dimitris chloupis <thekilon@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Just wanted to inform you that pharo does not work on ubuntu 13.04 at least using this link
http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo3.0-linux.zip
it fails at running the binary inside the bin folder, i tried to run it manually via terminal and still does not execute. It gives no error , it just says that the file does not exist. Whatever that may mean.
I'm running Ubuntu 13.04. If I unzip this archive and cd into the resulting pharo3.0 directory, "./pharo" fires up the image as expected. Would you mind running this: cd pharo3.0; strace ./pharo 2> 1&> strace.txt and sending strace.txt this way? frank
pharo 2.0 does not work either. maybe its my computer , maybe not. I have just installed 13.04 , clean install, separate partition, nothing special about it. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Pharo-does-not-work-on-ubuntu-13-04-tp469505... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Missing :i386 libs on a AMD64 install of 13.04? Thierry, a user of pharo on Ubuntu 13.04 AMD64. Le 25/06/2013 15:41, kilon a écrit :
pharo 2.0 does not work either.
maybe its my computer , maybe not. I have just installed 13.04 , clean install, separate partition, nothing special about it.
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$ cd pharo3.0/ $ ./pharo and it works for me :) You can also install the ubuntu .deb pharo package by following instructions here : http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/ubuntu After installing it, you can launch .image in nautilus or whatever :) 2013/6/25 dimitris chloupis <thekilon@yahoo.co.uk>
Just wanted to inform you that pharo does not work on ubuntu 13.04 at least using this link
http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo3.0-linux.zip
it fails at running the binary inside the bin folder, i tried to run it manually via terminal and still does not execute. It gives no error , it just says that the file does not exist. Whatever that may mean.
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here you go frank -> http://pastebin.com/xRnau260 <http://pastebin.com/xRnau260> -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Pharo-does-not-work-on-ubuntu-13-04-tp469505... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Thiery must be correct I am must be missing i386 libraries cause my ubuntu is amd64 , how I get them ? Also can someone update the site so ubuntu users don't have the same problem as me ? Just basic info how to install pharo on linux should be enough. Afterall amd64 is what every modern pc would use. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Pharo-does-not-work-on-ubuntu-13-04-tp469505... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 3:52 PM, kilon <thekilon@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Thiery must be correct I am must be missing i386 libraries cause my ubuntu is amd64 , how I get them ? Also can someone update the site so ubuntu users don't have the same problem as me ?
Just basic info how to install pharo on linux should be enough. Afterall amd64 is what every modern pc would use.
Erwan already answered to you: http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/ubuntu That should work, but if you still have problem, please join us on IRC channel #pharo (http://www.pharo-project.org/community) -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill
Le 25/06/2013 15:52, kilon a écrit :
Thiery must be correct I am must be missing i386 libraries cause my ubuntu is amd64 , how I get them ? Also can someone update the site so ubuntu users don't have the same problem as me ?
There was something along the lines of ia32-libs but it may be deprecated with the advent of multilibs in Ubuntu/Debian, I need to check. Yes, it's either : sudo apt-get install ia32-libs or sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch:i386
Just basic info how to install pharo on linux should be enough. Afterall amd64 is what every modern pc would use.
I completely agree with you :) Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
On 25 June 2013 15:10, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
Le 25/06/2013 15:52, kilon a écrit :
Thiery must be correct I am must be missing i386 libraries cause my ubuntu is amd64 , how I get them ? Also can someone update the site so ubuntu users don't have the same problem as me ?
There was something along the lines of ia32-libs but it may be deprecated with the advent of multilibs in Ubuntu/Debian, I need to check.
Yes, it's either :
sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
That installs an enormous amount of stuff. You can also just `sudo apt-get install libc6:i386`. That works for Squeak, at least. I don't know if Pharo depends on anything more exotic. Probably not, given that Dale Henrich's builderCI does this for Travis CI tests. frank
or
sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch:i386
Just basic info how to install pharo on linux should be enough. Afterall amd64 is what every modern pc would use.
I completely agree with you :)
Thierry
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On 25 Jun 2013, at 16:11, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar@gmail.com> wrote:
On 25 June 2013 15:10, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
Le 25/06/2013 15:52, kilon a écrit :
Thiery must be correct I am must be missing i386 libraries cause my ubuntu is amd64 , how I get them ? Also can someone update the site so ubuntu users don't have the same problem as me ?
There was something along the lines of ia32-libs but it may be deprecated with the advent of multilibs in Ubuntu/Debian, I need to check.
Yes, it's either :
sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
That installs an enormous amount of stuff. You can also just `sudo apt-get install libc6:i386`. That works for Squeak, at least. I don't know if Pharo depends on anything more exotic. Probably not, given that Dale Henrich's builderCI does this for Travis CI tests.
Hmm, you also need libssl0.9.8 or libssl0.9.8:i386 for Pharo since it includes SSL/TLS/HTTPS support out of the box. Anyway, missing deps are easily found using ldd.
frank
or
sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch:i386
Just basic info how to install pharo on linux should be enough. Afterall amd64 is what every modern pc would use.
I completely agree with you :)
Thierry
-- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
Le 25/06/2013 16:17, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
On 25 Jun 2013, at 16:11, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar@gmail.com> wrote:
On 25 June 2013 15:10, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
Le 25/06/2013 15:52, kilon a écrit :
Thiery must be correct I am must be missing i386 libraries cause my ubuntu is amd64 , how I get them ? Also can someone update the site so ubuntu users don't have the same problem as me ?
There was something along the lines of ia32-libs but it may be deprecated with the advent of multilibs in Ubuntu/Debian, I need to check.
Yes, it's either :
sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
That installs an enormous amount of stuff. You can also just `sudo apt-get install libc6:i386`. That works for Squeak, at least. I don't know if Pharo depends on anything more exotic. Probably not, given that Dale Henrich's builderCI does this for Travis CI tests.
Hmm, you also need libssl0.9.8 or libssl0.9.8:i386 for Pharo since it includes SSL/TLS/HTTPS support out of the box.
That's why I prefer the ia32-libs approach... You may also need a libcairo:i386, and a few more stuff (did someone had a problem with odbc?) The base pharo has very few dependencies (libc6:i386) but the plugins have more and it becomes a bit more involved to chase them.
Anyway, missing deps are easily found using ldd.
Even if you use native boost and friends to load a library? Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
Hmm, you also need libssl0.9.8 or libssl0.9.8:i386 for Pharo since it includes SSL/TLS/HTTPS support out of the box.
Anyway, missing deps are easily found using ldd.
what is the problem with you guys? I spent and continue to spend days on packaging Pharo for Ubuntu so that everyone can forget about dependencies and 32 vs. 64 issues. So why do you keep on talking about this complex and undocumented method of installing Pharo? Just execute what is documented on the pharo.org website and you are guaranteed to have the latest version of the VM working whatever your Ubuntu is (provided it is still supported by Canonical) -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill
Le 25/06/2013 16:32, Damien Cassou a écrit :
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
Hmm, you also need libssl0.9.8 or libssl0.9.8:i386 for Pharo since it includes SSL/TLS/HTTPS support out of the box.
Anyway, missing deps are easily found using ldd.
what is the problem with you guys? I spent and continue to spend days on packaging Pharo for Ubuntu so that everyone can forget about dependencies and 32 vs. 64 issues. So why do you keep on talking about this complex and undocumented method of installing Pharo? Just execute what is documented on the pharo.org website and you are guaranteed to have the latest version of the VM working whatever your Ubuntu is (provided it is still supported by Canonical)
And I do appreciate the work and uses it :) But I can understand someone trying to get the linux pharo distribution to work, unless the pharo site recommend get.pharo.org + the pharo ppa as the default approach (I know I would). Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
On 25 Jun 2013, at 16:32, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
Hmm, you also need libssl0.9.8 or libssl0.9.8:i386 for Pharo since it includes SSL/TLS/HTTPS support out of the box.
Anyway, missing deps are easily found using ldd.
what is the problem with you guys? I spent and continue to spend days on packaging Pharo for Ubuntu so that everyone can forget about dependencies and 32 vs. 64 issues. So why do you keep on talking about this complex and undocumented method of installing Pharo? Just execute what is documented on the pharo.org website and you are guaranteed to have the latest version of the VM working whatever your Ubuntu is (provided it is still supported by Canonical)
The recommended, first time experience should indeed be the ppa way - and it should be described as such everywhere. On the other hand, you can't stop Linux users from doing what they want. But then they should bear the consequences and not complain like little children ;-) I for one like the get.pharo.org way a lot as well, and at the same time I have used the ppa install to fix the dependencies on some machines.
-- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill
Comment aside, there is a #!/bin/bash # line at the top of the http://get.pharo.org/ page, which is outside of the comment that immediately follows it (between <!-- -->). That bang line, plus -1em margin rule applied to the html body causes a visual glitch at the top, that ruins a perfectly minimal page style :)
On 2013-06-25, at 17:16, "Esteban A. Maringolo" <emaringolo@gmail.com> wrote:
Comment aside, there is a #!/bin/bash # line at the top of the http://get.pharo.org/ page, which is outside of the comment that immediately follows it (between <!-- -->).
the bang is on purpose, this is a "dual" html/bash file. when you do curl get.pharo.org | bash it is this very file that gets downloaded and executed ;)
That bang line, plus -1em margin rule applied to the html body causes a visual glitch at the top, that ruins a perfectly minimal page style :)
I will adapt the CSS, I think I modified the line-spacing and overlooked that.
wait a sec , who said PPA solves my problem ? Damien have you tested it ? PPA did not solve my problem ! It complained about missing a X11 something library and never allowed me to open the image. The problem got away when I used the instructions to install those libraries. If you intended it to be that easy then I advise you to test it on a 64 bit ubuntu without those 32 bit compatibility libraries. Of course not having a 64 bit version when pretty much any programming language out there that it takes itself seriously (intended to be used professionally ) has one, is not exactly good first impression for pharo or squeak. I am sorry to be so strict and I am downgrading anyone's effort but if you guys are serious about making people taking pharo seriously , you better realise thats its 2013 and we are still stuck with a 32 bit version and we do a buch of none sense to get pharo running. Maybe the pharo efforts should be diverted towards that direction. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Pharo-does-not-work-on-ubuntu-13-04-tp469505... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
eventually (not too far from now), we will have a 64bits Stack VM... but we will not (or not soon, at least) have a Cog 64 bits... The JIT needs to be redone to work there... so... we still need 32bits architectures to work on 64bits... and basically they work. I wonder why it does not work for you :( Esteban On Jun 25, 2013, at 7:49 PM, kilon <thekilon@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
wait a sec , who said PPA solves my problem ? Damien have you tested it ?
PPA did not solve my problem ! It complained about missing a X11 something library and never allowed me to open the image. The problem got away when I used the instructions to install those libraries. If you intended it to be that easy then I advise you to test it on a 64 bit ubuntu without those 32 bit compatibility libraries.
Of course not having a 64 bit version when pretty much any programming language out there that it takes itself seriously (intended to be used professionally ) has one, is not exactly good first impression for pharo or squeak. I am sorry to be so strict and I am downgrading anyone's effort but if you guys are serious about making people taking pharo seriously , you better realise thats its 2013 and we are still stuck with a 32 bit version and we do a buch of none sense to get pharo running.
Maybe the pharo efforts should be diverted towards that direction.
-- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Pharo-does-not-work-on-ubuntu-13-04-tp469505... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Well as I said, I am in no way downgrading your efforts. And I know you are not exactly Sun , or Python Foundation. It works for me, I did not say it does not. It works perfectly on windows and macos and on linux when i install the 32 bit compatibility libraries works as well. If you implement a way to detect whether a 64 bit linux system lack those libraries and install them , I think it wont be a problem at all. Or if that is hard, just add some instructiosn on the website , its just one liner its not that big deal. Another thing I have observed with the website is that it lacks a donate button, it would be nice if you requested donation like for example pypy website is doing it http://pypy.org/ <http://pypy.org/> why not make the 64 bit , a donation target ? I would most certainly would like to donate towards that goal and get more coders working on this. How that sounds ? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Pharo-does-not-work-on-ubuntu-13-04-tp469505... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On 2013-06-25, at 20:41, kilon <thekilon@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Well as I said, I am in no way downgrading your efforts. And I know you are not exactly Sun , or Python Foundation.
It works for me, I did not say it does not. It works perfectly on windows and macos and on linux when i install the 32 bit compatibility libraries works as well.
If you implement a way to detect whether a 64 bit linux system lack those libraries and install them , I think it wont be a problem at all. Or if that is hard, just add some instructiosn on the website , its just one liner its not that big deal.
actually the zeroconf script was built towards that direction, but currently fails to provide decent feedback. I think we can improve this situation quite a bit by referring to the PPA in the zeroconf script!
Another thing I have observed with the website is that it lacks a donate button, it would be nice if you requested donation like for example pypy website is doing it
http://pypy.org/ <http://pypy.org/>
why not make the 64 bit , a donation target ? I would most certainly would like to donate towards that goal and get more coders working on this. How that sounds ?
actually I like the idea of financing subprojects of Pharo that way!
On Jun 25, 2013, at 7:49 PM, kilon <thekilon@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
wait a sec , who said PPA solves my problem ? Damien have you tested it ?
PPA did not solve my problem ! It complained about missing a X11 something library and never allowed me to open the image. The problem got away when I used the instructions to install those libraries. If you intended it to be that easy then I advise you to test it on a 64 bit ubuntu without those 32 bit compatibility libraries.
Of course not having a 64 bit version when pretty much any programming language out there that it takes itself seriously (intended to be used professionally ) has one, is not exactly good first impression for pharo or squeak. I am sorry to be so strict and I am downgrading anyone's effort but if you guys are serious about making people taking pharo seriously , you better realise thats its 2013 and we are still stuck with a 32 bit version and we do a buch of none sense to get pharo running.
Maybe the pharo efforts should be diverted towards that direction.
How many languages are solely based on real open-source efforts (without large companies putting money and resources on the table)? Because so far we got 3 years engineers from inria for Pharo. Stef
Hi Kilon, On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 7:49 PM, kilon <thekilon@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
wait a sec , who said PPA solves my problem ? Damien have you tested it ?
yes PPA is intended to solve this particular problem. If it does not work for you then it is a failure. Nevertheless, I tried the PPA on several blank systems (32 and 64 bits) and it worked fine. Could you please report a bug on pharo.fogbugz.com and fill it in the "Ubuntu packaging (ppa:pharo/stable)" project? Thank you -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill
hi all, for me ppa works very well. Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Sofware Solutions IP Soluciones SRL 25 de Mayo 521. Entrepiso A email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com email: pdigonzelli@gmail.com twitter: @pdigonzelli Tel: 0381 4227378 Cel: 0381 155982714 ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Damien Cassou" <damien.cassou@gmail.com> Para: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> Enviados: Martes, 25 de Junio 2013 17:44:23 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo does not work on ubuntu 13.04 Hi Kilon, On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 7:49 PM, kilon <thekilon@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
wait a sec , who said PPA solves my problem ? Damien have you tested it ?
yes PPA is intended to solve this particular problem. If it does not work for you then it is a failure. Nevertheless, I tried the PPA on several blank systems (32 and 64 bits) and it worked fine. Could you please report a bug on pharo.fogbugz.com and fill it in the "Ubuntu packaging (ppa:pharo/stable)" project? Thank you -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill
Sure Damien I will try to unistall the libraries and try again and report the error. Stephan why the website does not have a donate button ? Or you could even try kickstarter. I am not claiming I know how these things work but maybe its worth a try. There must be enough people around that are not companies and still willing to contribute financially to pharo , afterall who says "no" to more money , right ? :D About my efforts, well those are to bring opengl closer to pharo , maybe port part of morphic to it and maybe implement a basic graphic engine with it. Right now I am contributing tutorials for NBOpengl in form of a GLTutorial Class and trying to make NBOpengl work on all 3 platforms. Camillo happy you like my idea, I spoke with pypy people , really nice people and told me that this model has worked for them so far. They have already ported a big part of numpy to pypy with the money they collected so far. pdigonzeli , hmm, strange that it works for you guys and not for me. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Pharo-does-not-work-on-ubuntu-13-04-tp469505... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:09 AM, kilon <thekilon@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Sure Damien I will try to unistall the libraries and try again and report the error.
Stephan why the website does not have a donate button ?
because there is none. Because there only will be one if someone adds one. It is on the TODO, but there are many more things on the TODO besides that⦠and a day just has 24 hours. Marcus
I try to unistall the libraries with sudo apt-get remove --purge ia32-libs But unistall only a single library and of course I cannot reproduce the error cause pharo continues to function properly. I am by no mean an Ubuntu expert but I have seen this another time, trying to remove a library this way does not fully remove the library. Damian I am also loged in irc , sorry did not see your message earlier, if you want to guide me through this. :) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Pharo-does-not-work-on-ubuntu-13-04-tp469505... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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You probably need to do a : sudo apt-get autoremove after that, so that you get rid of all the dependencies of ia32-libs that you haven't installed yourself. Thierry Le 26/06/2013 09:35, kilon a écrit :
I try to unistall the libraries with
sudo apt-get remove --purge ia32-libs
But unistall only a single library and of course I cannot reproduce the error cause pharo continues to function properly. I am by no mean an Ubuntu expert but I have seen this another time, trying to remove a library this way does not fully remove the library.
Damian I am also loged in irc , sorry did not see your message earlier, if you want to guide me through this. :)
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yes Thierry I have already done that I just forgot to add it here. Any other suggestions ? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Pharo-does-not-work-on-ubuntu-13-04-tp469505... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
by the way , in case anyone wonders, I know that it did not remove the full library because it asked me to remove 10 mbs while when it installed it asked me to add 200+ MBs , quite a difference ;) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Pharo-does-not-work-on-ubuntu-13-04-tp469505... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Oh ok. I'm out of ideas now, apart from removing them one by one :P Thierry Le 26/06/2013 09:58, kilon a écrit :
yes Thierry I have already done that I just forgot to add it here. Any other suggestions ?
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On 26 Jun 2013, at 09:08, kilon <thekilon@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
There must be enough people around that are not companies and still willing to contribute financially to pharo , afterall who says "no" to more money , right ? :D
That is what the Pharo Association is for: http://association.pharo.org Sven
On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:08 AM, kilon <thekilon@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Sure Damien I will try to unistall the libraries and try again and report the error.
Stephan why the website does not have a donate button ? Or you could even try kickstarter. I am not claiming I know how these things work but maybe its worth a try. There must be enough people around that are not companies and still willing to contribute financially to pharo , afterall who says "no" to more money , right ? :D
because we were not sure that people will give money but we should give a try for the 64 bits.
About my efforts, well those are to bring opengl closer to pharo , maybe port part of morphic to it and maybe implement a basic graphic engine with it. Right now I am contributing tutorials for NBOpengl in form of a GLTutorial Class and trying to make NBOpengl work on all 3 platforms.
Camillo happy you like my idea, I spoke with pypy people , really nice people and told me that this model has worked for them so far. They have already ported a big part of numpy to pypy with the money they collected so far.
pdigonzeli , hmm, strange that it works for you guys and not for me.
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fixed On 2013-06-25, at 17:16, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com> wrote:
Comment aside, there is a #!/bin/bash # line at the top of the http://get.pharo.org/ page, which is outside of the comment that immediately follows it (between <!-- -->).
That bang line, plus -1em margin rule applied to the html body causes a visual glitch at the top, that ruins a perfectly minimal page style :)
Confirmed. The bang line is now hidden. The question that remains is: why the duality between html/bash? Smells like a hack. A clever one for sure. But a hack nonetheless. :) Esteban A. Maringolo 2013/6/25 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni@gmail.com>:
fixed
On 2013-06-25, at 17:16, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com> wrote:
Comment aside, there is a #!/bin/bash # line at the top of the http://get.pharo.org/ page, which is outside of the comment that immediately follows it (between <!-- -->).
That bang line, plus -1em margin rule applied to the html body causes a visual glitch at the top, that ruins a perfectly minimal page style :)
On 2013-06-25, at 19:28, "Esteban A. Maringolo" <emaringolo@gmail.com> wrote:
Confirmed. The bang line is now hidden.
The question that remains is: why the duality between html/bash? Smells like a hack. A clever one for sure. But a hack nonetheless. :) Esteban A. Maringolo
it simplifies a lot since there is only a single static URL which is fully self-documenting.
+1 Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Sofware Solutions IP Soluciones SRL 25 de Mayo 521. Entrepiso A email: pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com email: pdigonzelli@gmail.com twitter: @pdigonzelli Tel: 0381 4227378 Cel: 0381 155982714 ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Damien Cassou" <damien.cassou@gmail.com> Para: "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> Enviados: Martes, 25 de Junio 2013 11:32:06 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo does not work on ubuntu 13.04 On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
Hmm, you also need libssl0.9.8 or libssl0.9.8:i386 for Pharo since it includes SSL/TLS/HTTPS support out of the box.
Anyway, missing deps are easily found using ldd.
what is the problem with you guys? I spent and continue to spend days on packaging Pharo for Ubuntu so that everyone can forget about dependencies and 32 vs. 64 issues. So why do you keep on talking about this complex and undocumented method of installing Pharo? Just execute what is documented on the pharo.org website and you are guaranteed to have the latest version of the VM working whatever your Ubuntu is (provided it is still supported by Canonical) -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill
yeap it works now, thank you Thierry :) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Pharo-does-not-work-on-ubuntu-13-04-tp469505... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
thank you frank :) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-dev-Pharo-does-not-work-on-ubuntu-13-04-tp469505... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
There was something along the lines of ia32-libs but it may be deprecated with the advent of multilibs in Ubuntu/Debian, I need to check.
Yes, it's either :
sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
or
sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch:i386
Just basic info how to install pharo on linux should be enough. Afterall amd64 is what every modern pc would use.
I completely agree with you :)
oh yes. We are concerned about it. This is why we are setting up the consortium and hope that we will be able to pay one engineer with it. Now if more people would help on other fronts we would be able to allocate more time to other places :) Stef
It most certainly does work: $ curl get.pharo.org/30+vm | bash Be sure to install 32 bits libs when running 64 bits Linux On 25 Jun 2013, at 15:33, dimitris chloupis <thekilon@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Just wanted to inform you that pharo does not work on ubuntu 13.04 at least using this link
http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo3.0-linux.zip
it fails at running the binary inside the bin folder, i tried to run it manually via terminal and still does not execute. It gives no error , it just says that the file does not exist. Whatever that may mean.
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