Re: [Pharo-project] Presentation
Alexandre, That looks pretty good. I would probably get the debugger to show itself off just a bit more - if only by picking a more interesting method for the source pane. You said that all control structures are realized by message sends. Is that really true? What about optimizations? Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029
Alexandre.Bergel@inria.fr 02/05/09 12:32 PM >>>
Dear List, I made up few slides about Pharo. The goal is to give in less than 30 minutes the essence of Pharo. Please, shot at me, I like that :-) http://bergel.eu/Pharo.pdf I provide the .keynote upon request. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Hi Alex, Nice idea. Here are a couple of things you could improve: - I would replace the front page with just the logo and the url. - use a white background because the screenshots will look better as they have behind a white background that looks ugly due to the rounded corners of the windows (see for example slide 7). Alternatively, you can set the background of the Pharo image to black and retake the screenshots. - in any case, the motif of the background does not help. - Slide 2 is weak and tries to do too much. The text in parantehesis is not needed given that your audience is new to Smalltalk. What is Seaside? I would suggest to make a dedicated part of the presentation Seaside-related. The line in italics is confusing. Use the logo instead of the title. Remove the bullets :). In fact, I would make the logo appear in the same place as on the previous slide, and only change the text. This will make for a nice transition. - the screenshot on Slide 6 has too small fonts - On Slide 7 you use centered text, but everywhere else you use left aligned text. Stick with the left aligned one. - Slide 12 needs some alignment. I would suggest to make the blue regions the same width and height and align them vertically. - Also, I think the font of the white text from slide 12 is not as light as it is in the rest of the presenation. - The explanations in red on slide 13,14 are too small and not useful like that. Make them bigger. Potentially you can also use animations to introduce them. - Slide 15 needs alignment - The green in Slide 16 does not look nice :). If you replace the black background with white, it will fit better. Alternatively, you have to edit the diagram again in omnigraffle and make white on black. In fact you anyway have to edit the diagram to make it use the same font as in the presentation (which I guess is Helvetica Neue Light) - Slide 17 needs alignment - Slide 18 is not so useful. - Slide 19 has too many messages. What does that mean strong community? - No need for the bullets on Slide 20 - I won't say anything about slide 21 :) Cheers, Doru On Feb 5, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Bill Schwab wrote:
Alexandre,
That looks pretty good. I would probably get the debugger to show itself off just a bit more - if only by picking a more interesting method for the source pane.
You said that all control structures are realized by message sends. Is that really true? What about optimizations?
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029
Alexandre.Bergel@inria.fr 02/05/09 12:32 PM >>>
Dear List,
I made up few slides about Pharo. The goal is to give in less than 30 minutes the essence of Pharo. Please, shot at me, I like that :-)
I provide the .keynote upon request.
Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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You said that all control structures are realized by message sends. Is that really true? What about optimizations?
I think this is detail. I first try to get a base that people can reuse to advertise Pharo. Thanks for your nice words Cheers, Alexandre
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029
Alexandre.Bergel@inria.fr 02/05/09 12:32 PM >>>
Dear List,
I made up few slides about Pharo. The goal is to give in less than 30 minutes the essence of Pharo. Please, shot at me, I like that :-)
I provide the .keynote upon request.
Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
I will take your comments into account, thanks Doru Alexandre On 5 Feb 2009, at 20:08, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi Alex,
Nice idea. Here are a couple of things you could improve:
- I would replace the front page with just the logo and the url.
- use a white background because the screenshots will look better as they have behind a white background that looks ugly due to the rounded corners of the windows (see for example slide 7). Alternatively, you can set the background of the Pharo image to black and retake the screenshots.
- in any case, the motif of the background does not help.
- Slide 2 is weak and tries to do too much. The text in parantehesis is not needed given that your audience is new to Smalltalk. What is Seaside? I would suggest to make a dedicated part of the presentation Seaside-related. The line in italics is confusing. Use the logo instead of the title. Remove the bullets :). In fact, I would make the logo appear in the same place as on the previous slide, and only change the text. This will make for a nice transition.
- the screenshot on Slide 6 has too small fonts
- On Slide 7 you use centered text, but everywhere else you use left aligned text. Stick with the left aligned one.
- Slide 12 needs some alignment. I would suggest to make the blue regions the same width and height and align them vertically.
- Also, I think the font of the white text from slide 12 is not as light as it is in the rest of the presenation.
- The explanations in red on slide 13,14 are too small and not useful like that. Make them bigger. Potentially you can also use animations to introduce them.
- Slide 15 needs alignment
- The green in Slide 16 does not look nice :). If you replace the black background with white, it will fit better. Alternatively, you have to edit the diagram again in omnigraffle and make white on black. In fact you anyway have to edit the diagram to make it use the same font as in the presentation (which I guess is Helvetica Neue Light)
- Slide 17 needs alignment
- Slide 18 is not so useful.
- Slide 19 has too many messages. What does that mean strong community?
- No need for the bullets on Slide 20
- I won't say anything about slide 21 :)
Cheers, Doru
On Feb 5, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Bill Schwab wrote:
Alexandre,
That looks pretty good. I would probably get the debugger to show itself off just a bit more - if only by picking a more interesting method for the source pane.
You said that all control structures are realized by message sends. Is that really true? What about optimizations?
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029
Alexandre.Bergel@inria.fr 02/05/09 12:32 PM >>>
Dear List,
I made up few slides about Pharo. The goal is to give in less than 30 minutes the essence of Pharo. Please, shot at me, I like that :-)
I provide the .keynote upon request.
Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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"Every thing should have the right to be different."
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-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
Alex, could you post a new version afterwards? I'll then take another look and give you further feedback, if you want. We can also put the slides on the web page. Cheers, Adrian On Feb 5, 2009, at 21:31 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I will take your comments into account, thanks Doru
Alexandre
On 5 Feb 2009, at 20:08, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi Alex,
Nice idea. Here are a couple of things you could improve:
- I would replace the front page with just the logo and the url.
- use a white background because the screenshots will look better as they have behind a white background that looks ugly due to the rounded corners of the windows (see for example slide 7). Alternatively, you can set the background of the Pharo image to black and retake the screenshots.
- in any case, the motif of the background does not help.
- Slide 2 is weak and tries to do too much. The text in parantehesis is not needed given that your audience is new to Smalltalk. What is Seaside? I would suggest to make a dedicated part of the presentation Seaside-related. The line in italics is confusing. Use the logo instead of the title. Remove the bullets :). In fact, I would make the logo appear in the same place as on the previous slide, and only change the text. This will make for a nice transition.
- the screenshot on Slide 6 has too small fonts
- On Slide 7 you use centered text, but everywhere else you use left aligned text. Stick with the left aligned one.
- Slide 12 needs some alignment. I would suggest to make the blue regions the same width and height and align them vertically.
- Also, I think the font of the white text from slide 12 is not as light as it is in the rest of the presenation.
- The explanations in red on slide 13,14 are too small and not useful like that. Make them bigger. Potentially you can also use animations to introduce them.
- Slide 15 needs alignment
- The green in Slide 16 does not look nice :). If you replace the black background with white, it will fit better. Alternatively, you have to edit the diagram again in omnigraffle and make white on black. In fact you anyway have to edit the diagram to make it use the same font as in the presentation (which I guess is Helvetica Neue Light)
- Slide 17 needs alignment
- Slide 18 is not so useful.
- Slide 19 has too many messages. What does that mean strong community?
- No need for the bullets on Slide 20
- I won't say anything about slide 21 :)
Cheers, Doru
On Feb 5, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Bill Schwab wrote:
Alexandre,
That looks pretty good. I would probably get the debugger to show itself off just a bit more - if only by picking a more interesting method for the source pane.
You said that all control structures are realized by message sends. Is that really true? What about optimizations?
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029
Alexandre.Bergel@inria.fr 02/05/09 12:32 PM >>>
Dear List,
I made up few slides about Pharo. The goal is to give in less than 30 minutes the essence of Pharo. Please, shot at me, I like that :-)
I provide the .keynote upon request.
Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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"Every thing should have the right to be different."
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Sure Alexandre On 5 Feb 2009, at 21:45, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Alex, could you post a new version afterwards? I'll then take another look and give you further feedback, if you want. We can also put the slides on the web page.
Cheers, Adrian
On Feb 5, 2009, at 21:31 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I will take your comments into account, thanks Doru
Alexandre
On 5 Feb 2009, at 20:08, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi Alex,
Nice idea. Here are a couple of things you could improve:
- I would replace the front page with just the logo and the url.
- use a white background because the screenshots will look better as they have behind a white background that looks ugly due to the rounded corners of the windows (see for example slide 7). Alternatively, you can set the background of the Pharo image to black and retake the screenshots.
- in any case, the motif of the background does not help.
- Slide 2 is weak and tries to do too much. The text in parantehesis is not needed given that your audience is new to Smalltalk. What is Seaside? I would suggest to make a dedicated part of the presentation Seaside-related. The line in italics is confusing. Use the logo instead of the title. Remove the bullets :). In fact, I would make the logo appear in the same place as on the previous slide, and only change the text. This will make for a nice transition.
- the screenshot on Slide 6 has too small fonts
- On Slide 7 you use centered text, but everywhere else you use left aligned text. Stick with the left aligned one.
- Slide 12 needs some alignment. I would suggest to make the blue regions the same width and height and align them vertically.
- Also, I think the font of the white text from slide 12 is not as light as it is in the rest of the presenation.
- The explanations in red on slide 13,14 are too small and not useful like that. Make them bigger. Potentially you can also use animations to introduce them.
- Slide 15 needs alignment
- The green in Slide 16 does not look nice :). If you replace the black background with white, it will fit better. Alternatively, you have to edit the diagram again in omnigraffle and make white on black. In fact you anyway have to edit the diagram to make it use the same font as in the presentation (which I guess is Helvetica Neue Light)
- Slide 17 needs alignment
- Slide 18 is not so useful.
- Slide 19 has too many messages. What does that mean strong community?
- No need for the bullets on Slide 20
- I won't say anything about slide 21 :)
Cheers, Doru
On Feb 5, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Bill Schwab wrote:
Alexandre,
That looks pretty good. I would probably get the debugger to show itself off just a bit more - if only by picking a more interesting method for the source pane.
You said that all control structures are realized by message sends. Is that really true? What about optimizations?
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029
Alexandre.Bergel@inria.fr 02/05/09 12:32 PM >>>
Dear List,
I made up few slides about Pharo. The goal is to give in less than 30 minutes the essence of Pharo. Please, shot at me, I like that :-)
I provide the .keynote upon request.
Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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"Every thing should have the right to be different."
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