Re: [Pharo-project] MicroSqueak [was System Tracer]
FInd attached. You want MicroSqueak-colonequal.st and the various MSqueak-.st files. This produces a 57k image. John's also given me a 2.0 development image which will run on a 3.8 VM. Let me know if you want that. For me this is a proof of concept. What's needed is to define a headless core that contains the compiler, good error reporting to standard out, the core collection and numeric libraries and file support. Then we try and load packages into it and build up a headful image. On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>wrote:
On Oct 6, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote:
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
generate a new image.
But that's not what it does.
Yes I know gnerates = clone in my mail.
t merely clones an image, which is a long way form building an image form source. *That*'s a useful project. John Maloney's lovely MicroSqueak is a good starting point for ideas (basically have a copy of a kernel subset of the system in a namespace and generate a fresh image from that).
Do you have a pointer on the code of john. We are looking at bootstrap code right now.
On Oct 6, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
What do you want to achieve?
Cheers, Alexandre
On 6 Oct 2010, at 05:36, Gabriel Hernán Barbuto wrote:
Hi
Does anyone know where I can find the system tracer that is currently in use in Pharo?
Bests Gabriel
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Thanks Eliot! I just downloaded Squeak 2.0 and start loading the MicroSqueak files. But, I encountered a strange problem. In the fileList, the MSqueak-Collections-Unordered.st file content isn't displayed and I can't load it. I get only this message in the fileList: For some reason, this file cannot be read Any hint? Noury On 7 oct. 2010, at 01:22, Eliot Miranda wrote:
FInd attached. You want MicroSqueak-colonequal.st and the various MSqueak-.st files. This produces a 57k image. John's also given me a 2.0 development image which will run on a 3.8 VM. Let me know if you want that. For me this is a proof of concept. What's needed is to define a headless core that contains the compiler, good error reporting to standard out, the core collection and numeric libraries and file support. Then we try and load packages into it and build up a headful image.
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Oct 6, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote:
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote: generate a new image.
But that's not what it does.
Yes I know gnerates = clone in my mail.
t merely clones an image, which is a long way form building an image form source. *That*'s a useful project. John Maloney's lovely MicroSqueak is a good starting point for ideas (basically have a copy of a kernel subset of the system in a namespace and generate a fresh image from that).
Do you have a pointer on the code of john. We are looking at bootstrap code right now.
On Oct 6, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
What do you want to achieve?
Cheers, Alexandre
On 6 Oct 2010, at 05:36, Gabriel Hernán Barbuto wrote:
Hi
Does anyone know where I can find the system tracer that is currently in use in Pharo?
Bests Gabriel
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On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Eliot!
I just downloaded Squeak 2.0 and start loading the MicroSqueak files. But, I encountered a strange problem. In the fileList, the MSqueak-Collections-Unordered.st file content isn't displayed and I can't load it. I get only this message in the fileList:
For some reason, this file cannot be read
Any hint?
No clue. So instead I've put all the files, including a development image that has all the code filed in on http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/MicroSqueak. Check the !README<http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/MicroSqueak/!README> . HTH Eliot Noury
On 7 oct. 2010, at 01:22, Eliot Miranda wrote:
FInd attached. You want MicroSqueak-colonequal.st and the various MSqueak-.st files. This produces a 57k image. John's also given me a 2.0 development image which will run on a 3.8 VM. Let me know if you want that. For me this is a proof of concept. What's needed is to define a headless core that contains the compiler, good error reporting to standard out, the core collection and numeric libraries and file support. Then we try and load packages into it and build up a headful image.
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Oct 6, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote:
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
generate a new image.
But that's not what it does.
Yes I know gnerates = clone in my mail.
t merely clones an image, which is a long way form building an image form source. *That*'s a useful project. John Maloney's lovely MicroSqueak is a good starting point for ideas (basically have a copy of a kernel subset of the system in a namespace and generate a fresh image from that).
Do you have a pointer on the code of john. We are looking at bootstrap code right now.
On Oct 6, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
What do you want to achieve?
Cheers, Alexandre
On 6 Oct 2010, at 05:36, Gabriel Hernán Barbuto wrote:
Hi
Does anyone know where I can find the system tracer that is
currently
in use in Pharo?
Bests Gabriel
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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Hi All, turns out John does not want this code released, so please can you destroy any and all copies? Also, who do I have to talk to to get the archive message, with attachments, destroyed? Apologies to all, I've f***ed up badly here. Eliot On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda@gmail.com>wrote:
FInd attached. You want MicroSqueak-colonequal.st and the various MSqueak-.st files. This produces a 57k image. John's also given me a 2.0 development image which will run on a 3.8 VM. Let me know if you want that. For me this is a proof of concept. What's needed is to define a headless core that contains the compiler, good error reporting to standard out, the core collection and numeric libraries and file support. Then we try and load packages into it and build up a headful image.
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Oct 6, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote:
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
generate a new image.
But that's not what it does.
Yes I know gnerates = clone in my mail.
t merely clones an image, which is a long way form building an image form source. *That*'s a useful project. John Maloney's lovely MicroSqueak is a good starting point for ideas (basically have a copy of a kernel subset of the system in a namespace and generate a fresh image from that).
Do you have a pointer on the code of john. We are looking at bootstrap code right now.
On Oct 6, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
What do you want to achieve?
Cheers, Alexandre
On 6 Oct 2010, at 05:36, Gabriel Hernán Barbuto wrote:
Hi
Does anyone know where I can find the system tracer that is currently in use in Pharo?
Bests Gabriel
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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Hi All, I'm please to let you know that John Maloney has published his MicroSqueak code on his website under the MIT license. http://web.media.mit.edu/~jmaloney/microsqueak/ <http://web.media.mit.edu/~jmaloney/microsqueak/>Apologies for the premature posting. We can get down to business now. Again huge thanks to John for this code. On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi All,
turns out John does not want this code released, so please can you destroy any and all copies? Also, who do I have to talk to to get the archive message, with attachments, destroyed?
Apologies to all, I've f***ed up badly here.
Eliot
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda@gmail.com>wrote:
FInd attached. You want MicroSqueak-colonequal.st and the various MSqueak-.st files. This produces a 57k image. John's also given me a 2.0 development image which will run on a 3.8 VM. Let me know if you want that. For me this is a proof of concept. What's needed is to define a headless core that contains the compiler, good error reporting to standard out, the core collection and numeric libraries and file support. Then we try and load packages into it and build up a headful image.
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Oct 6, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote:
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
generate a new image.
But that's not what it does.
Yes I know gnerates = clone in my mail.
t merely clones an image, which is a long way form building an image form source. *That*'s a useful project. John Maloney's lovely MicroSqueak is a good starting point for ideas (basically have a copy of a kernel subset of the system in a namespace and generate a fresh image from that).
Do you have a pointer on the code of john. We are looking at bootstrap code right now.
On Oct 6, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
What do you want to achieve?
Cheers, Alexandre
On 6 Oct 2010, at 05:36, Gabriel Hernán Barbuto wrote:
Hi
Does anyone know where I can find the system tracer that is
currently
in use in Pharo?
Bests Gabriel
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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Thanks indeed to John and to you Eliot. Noury On 9 oct. 2010, at 03:48, Eliot Miranda wrote:
Hi All,
I'm please to let you know that John Maloney has published his MicroSqueak code on his website under the MIT license. http://web.media.mit.edu/~jmaloney/microsqueak/ Apologies for the premature posting. We can get down to business now. Again huge thanks to John for this code.
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda@gmail.com> wrote: Hi All,
turns out John does not want this code released, so please can you destroy any and all copies? Also, who do I have to talk to to get the archive message, with attachments, destroyed?
Apologies to all, I've f***ed up badly here.
Eliot
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda@gmail.com> wrote: FInd attached. You want MicroSqueak-colonequal.st and the various MSqueak-.st files. This produces a 57k image. John's also given me a 2.0 development image which will run on a 3.8 VM. Let me know if you want that. For me this is a proof of concept. What's needed is to define a headless core that contains the compiler, good error reporting to standard out, the core collection and numeric libraries and file support. Then we try and load packages into it and build up a headful image.
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Oct 6, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote:
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote: generate a new image.
But that's not what it does.
Yes I know gnerates = clone in my mail.
t merely clones an image, which is a long way form building an image form source. *That*'s a useful project. John Maloney's lovely MicroSqueak is a good starting point for ideas (basically have a copy of a kernel subset of the system in a namespace and generate a fresh image from that).
Do you have a pointer on the code of john. We are looking at bootstrap code right now.
On Oct 6, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Hi!
What do you want to achieve?
Cheers, Alexandre
On 6 Oct 2010, at 05:36, Gabriel Hernán Barbuto wrote:
Hi
Does anyone know where I can find the system tracer that is currently in use in Pharo?
Bests Gabriel
_______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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