Hello, I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library. Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8 Next, I will integrate it into Woden. Greetings, Ronie
Nice :) Note to the people: lower the volume before starting the video ^^ On Jul 10, 2015 3:52 AM, "Ronie Salgado" <roniesalg@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.
Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8
Next, I will integrate it into Woden.
Greetings, Ronie
I am interested in playing music in Pharo. Questions: - Does your bindings work fine on Mac os x ? - Do you have to put a .so / .dll somewhere near your vm or does it work out of the box ? - Where can I download your code ? Good work, Best, Clement 2015-07-10 3:51 GMT+02:00 Ronie Salgado <roniesalg@gmail.com>:
Hello,
I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.
Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8
Next, I will integrate it into Woden.
Greetings, Ronie
Hi Clément,
- Does your bindings work fine on Mac os x ?
I don't know. They should work. - Do you have to put a .so / .dll somewhere near your vm or does it work
out of the box ?
It requires an implementation of OpenAL to be available. In Linux I only need to install the OpenAL package. In windows, I have to use the OpenAL soft implementation ( http://kcat.strangesoft.net/openal.html ) Perhaps there is some tweaking needed in the library search path for OS X. - Where can I download your code ?
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ronsaldo/OpenAL/ Best regards, Ronie 2015-07-10 5:56 GMT-03:00 Clément Bera <bera.clement@gmail.com>:
I am interested in playing music in Pharo.
Questions: - Does your bindings work fine on Mac os x ? - Do you have to put a .so / .dll somewhere near your vm or does it work out of the box ? - Where can I download your code ?
Good work,
Best,
Clement
2015-07-10 3:51 GMT+02:00 Ronie Salgado <roniesalg@gmail.com>:
Hello,
I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.
Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8
Next, I will integrate it into Woden.
Greetings, Ronie
Ok I tried and your examples work out of the box on my mac. Nice work. Can you please add an example where you play a .wav or .mp3 ? I am not very good at composing music :-) 2015-07-10 14:36 GMT+02:00 Ronie Salgado <roniesalg@gmail.com>:
Hi Clément,
- Does your bindings work fine on Mac os x ?
I don't know. They should work.
- Do you have to put a .so / .dll somewhere near your vm or does it work
out of the box ?
It requires an implementation of OpenAL to be available. In Linux I only need to install the OpenAL package. In windows, I have to use the OpenAL soft implementation ( http://kcat.strangesoft.net/openal.html ) Perhaps there is some tweaking needed in the library search path for OS X.
- Where can I download your code ?
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ronsaldo/OpenAL/
Best regards, Ronie
2015-07-10 5:56 GMT-03:00 Clément Bera <bera.clement@gmail.com>:
I am interested in playing music in Pharo.
Questions: - Does your bindings work fine on Mac os x ? - Do you have to put a .so / .dll somewhere near your vm or does it work out of the box ? - Where can I download your code ?
Good work,
Best,
Clement
2015-07-10 3:51 GMT+02:00 Ronie Salgado <roniesalg@gmail.com>:
Hello,
I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.
Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8
Next, I will integrate it into Woden.
Greetings, Ronie
Hi ronie this is nice but why do you want to integrate it into Woden? To me Woden is for 3D graphics. Setf Le 10/7/15 03:51, Ronie Salgado a écrit :
Hello,
I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.
Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8
Next, I will integrate it into Woden.
Greetings, Ronie
More like a game engine I'd say. So, makes sense to me. Phil Le 10 juil. 2015 22:36, "stepharo" <stepharo@free.fr> a écrit :
Hi ronie this is nice but why do you want to integrate it into Woden? To me Woden is for 3D graphics.
Setf
Le 10/7/15 03:51, Ronie Salgado a écrit :
Hello,
I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.
Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8
Next, I will integrate it into Woden.
Greetings, Ronie
Is openAL proprietary now.. ? I guess it was open source and there is a fork now. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Ronie Salgado <roniesalg@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.
Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8
Next, I will integrate it into Woden.
Greetings, Ronie
Hi,
this is nice but why do you want to integrate it into Woden? To me Woden is for 3D graphics.
Woden is actually a game engine. Currently there is even some support for using bullet physics, but it is actually a bit hard to use because it requires compiling the bindings. Of course, using sound will be optional. Integrating sound support is quite easy. There is only three things that need to be added to woden: Sound sources, sound listener and sound data. The hardest part with sound is actually being able to play a .wav, .mp3. or a .ogg. Currently I am looking in the PharoSound package for existing infrastructure for loading or streaming these sound formats. But i think, that I will have to add the support for Ogg/Vorbis. I don't like using MP3 because of the infamous patents. Is openAL proprietary now.. ? I guess it was open source and there is a
fork now.
Well, the only hardware implementation that I know about is the one by Creative. I always use the open source implementation OpenAL Soft ( http://kcat.strangesoft.net/openal.html ). I use OpenAL because it is the only cross platform 3D audio API/library that I know about, and because it is really to use. I don't have to worry about multi-threading when using it. I am not using SDL2 audio support because: - It uses a callback for filling the sound buffer, which is run in another operating system thread. - No 3D audio support. Greetings, Ronie 2015-07-11 0:30 GMT-03:00 S Krish <krishnamachari.sudhakar@gmail.com>:
Is openAL proprietary now.. ? I guess it was open source and there is a fork now.
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Ronie Salgado <roniesalg@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.
Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8
Next, I will integrate it into Woden.
Greetings, Ronie
Ronie I suggest that you think more modularly. Some people will just want some 3D, others everything so this is important that they can use the part they want. For example we are using Woden for a Thales prototype and there is no need for bullet, openAl. Stef Le 11/7/15 08:59, Ronie Salgado a écrit :
Hi,
this is nice but why do you want to integrate it into Woden? To me Woden is for 3D graphics.
Woden is actually a game engine. Currently there is even some support for using bullet physics, but it is actually a bit hard to use because it requires compiling the bindings. Of course, using sound will be optional. Integrating sound support is quite easy. There is only three things that need to be added to woden: Sound sources, sound listener and sound data.
The hardest part with sound is actually being able to play a .wav, .mp3. or a .ogg. Currently I am looking in the PharoSound package for existing infrastructure for loading or streaming these sound formats. But i think, that I will have to add the support for Ogg/Vorbis. I don't like using MP3 because of the infamous patents.
Is openAL proprietary now.. ? I guess it was open source and there is a fork now.
Well, the only hardware implementation that I know about is the one by Creative. I always use the open source implementation OpenAL Soft ( http://kcat.strangesoft.net/openal.html ). I use OpenAL because it is the only cross platform 3D audio API/library that I know about, and because it is really to use. I don't have to worry about multi-threading when using it.
I am not using SDL2 audio support because: - It uses a callback for filling the sound buffer, which is run in another operating system thread. - No 3D audio support.
Greetings, Ronie
2015-07-11 0:30 GMT-03:00 S Krish <krishnamachari.sudhakar@gmail.com <mailto:krishnamachari.sudhakar@gmail.com>>:
Is openAL proprietary now.. ? I guess it was open source and there is a fork now.
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Ronie Salgado <roniesalg@gmail.com <mailto:roniesalg@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,
I made bindings for OpenAL, a 3D audio library.
Here I made a quick demo: https://youtu.be/0wqbJrfYmU8
Next, I will integrate it into Woden.
Greetings, Ronie
Le 11/07/2015 14:59, Ronie Salgado a écrit :
looking in the PharoSound package for existing infrastructure for loading or streaming these sound formats. But i think, that I will have to add the support for Ogg/Vorbis. I don't like using MP3 because of the infamous patents. I believe there is Ogg/Vorbis support in Squeak, so it can be a good starting point.
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