[Pharo-project] Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List
Can we please convert this to work with fogbugz asap? I'm finding it difficult to track our progress without it... we've been spoiled ;) ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Resuming-Issue-Tracker-Mailing-List-tp4679712.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
what do you mean? because I get fog mails. Stef On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:46 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote:
Can we please convert this to work with fogbugz asap? I'm finding it difficult to track our progress without it... we've been spoiled ;)
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On Apr 6, 2013, at 10:30 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@free.fr> wrote:
what do you mean? because I get fog mails.
The old list got a mail for every change done on the tracker⦠We can do that again: we can subscribe it to all the projects. But it might be a bit too much. People can easily subscribe just themselfs: -> My Settings -> Subscribe -> Select ALL PROJECTS when creating the subscription
Stef
On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:46 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote:
Can we please convert this to work with fogbugz asap? I'm finding it difficult to track our progress without it... we've been spoiled ;)
----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Resuming-Issue-Tracker-Mailing-List-tp4679712.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On 2013-04-06, at 10:36, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 6, 2013, at 10:30 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@free.fr> wrote:
what do you mean? because I get fog mails.
The old list got a mail for every change done on the trackerâ¦
We can do that again: we can subscribe it to all the projects. But it might be a bit too much.
People can easily subscribe just themselfs: -> My Settings -> Subscribe -> Select ALL PROJECTS when creating the subscription
Most of it is documented on the wiki, here: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?W46
Marcus Denker-4 wrote
The old list got a mail for every change done on the trackerâ¦
We can do that again: we can subscribe it to all the projects. But it might be a bit too much.
Well since it's a special mailing list dedicated solely to the issue tracker, why would it be too much? For me, I found it very useful to track progress in a far less intrusive way then having every update come to my inbox. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Resuming-Issue-Tracker-Mailing-List-tp4679712p4679960.... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On Apr 6, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote:
Marcus Denker-4 wrote
The old list got a mail for every change done on the trackerâ¦
We can do that again: we can subscribe it to all the projects. But it might be a bit too much.
Well since it's a special mailing list dedicated solely to the issue tracker, why would it be too much? For me, I found it very useful to track progress in a far less intrusive way then having every update come to my inbox.
It's no problem to enable it⦠I will do it. (People then can decide if they read the ML or if the configure FugBugz to send them a subset). Marcus
Hi, To be honest, I don't think a separate mailing list has much sense. I would prefer to redirect mails to this list (this is a pharo-dev list, after all... ). With the filtering/labeling tools that every mail/webmail client has nowadays, it should be easy to the people who do not want to receive them to filter out or to put them in a separate place. my 2c Esteban On Apr 6, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 6, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote:
Marcus Denker-4 wrote
The old list got a mail for every change done on the trackerâ¦
We can do that again: we can subscribe it to all the projects. But it might be a bit too much.
Well since it's a special mailing list dedicated solely to the issue tracker, why would it be too much? For me, I found it very useful to track progress in a far less intrusive way then having every update come to my inbox.
It's no problem to enable it⦠I will do it. (People then can decide if they read the ML or if the configure FugBugz to send them a subset).
Marcus
On Apr 6, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
To be honest, I don't think a separate mailing list has much sense. I would prefer to redirect mails to this list (this is a pharo-dev list, after all... ).
Sorry, the bug racker sends a mail for every trivial change (re-categorization, whatever). We will drown in mail, it makes no sense. Marcus
well, but since I cannot imagine any of this list not subscribing to the other one, I do not see the difference, other than eliminate bureaucracy :) Esteban On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 6, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
To be honest, I don't think a separate mailing list has much sense. I would prefer to redirect mails to this list (this is a pharo-dev list, after all... ).
Sorry, the bug racker sends a mail for every trivial change (re-categorization, whatever). We will drown in mail, it makes no sense.
Marcus
but yes... even for this list or the other, it would be could be able to decide which kind of issue updates we want to be notified :S On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
well, but since I cannot imagine any of this list not subscribing to the other one, I do not see the difference, other than eliminate bureaucracy :)
Esteban
On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 6, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
To be honest, I don't think a separate mailing list has much sense. I would prefer to redirect mails to this list (this is a pharo-dev list, after all... ).
Sorry, the bug racker sends a mail for every trivial change (re-categorization, whatever). We will drown in mail, it makes no sense.
Marcus
On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
well, but since I cannot imagine any of this list not subscribing to the other one, I do not see the difference, other than eliminate bureaucracy :)
I am considering not to. I think not many people will subscribe. It's just too much. Marcus
On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
well, but since I cannot imagine any of this list not subscribing to the other one, I do not see the difference, other than eliminate bureaucracy :)
I am considering not to.
I think not many people will subscribe. It's just too much.
And if I remember correctly: didn't we do exactly that some years ago and decided to stop? And that was with the old tracker, the new will generate at least 5 times the amount of mail, maybe more. Marcus
Since any one can subscribe precisely to want they want, for me it's useless to have a spamming mailing list :) (and one thing less to manage ^^) Ben On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
well, but since I cannot imagine any of this list not subscribing to the other one, I do not see the difference, other than eliminate bureaucracy :)
I am considering not to.
I think not many people will subscribe. It's just too much.
And if I remember correctly: didn't we do exactly that some years ago and decided to stop? And that was with the old tracker, the new will generate at least 5 times the amount of mail, maybe more.
Marcus
Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 wrote
Since any one can subscribe precisely to want they want, for me it's useless to have a spamming mailing list :)
It's very useful to me because I turn off all mail delivery for the issue tracker list and view it through nabble. This way, my inbox is not flooded, and I can browse through and see exactly what interests me and click through those. The list is already set up, it's simple to turn on, and I've illustrated a use case. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Resuming-Issue-Tracker-Mailing-List-tp4679712p4679990.... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
oh well... then, if it is just noise, looks like everything will be lost in the stack of useless mails instead what it should be: to promote the discussion of issues. then I vote to not activate anything that will not work anyway :) Esteban On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On Apr 6, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
well, but since I cannot imagine any of this list not subscribing to the other one, I do not see the difference, other than eliminate bureaucracy :)
I am considering not to.
I think not many people will subscribe. It's just too much.
Marcus
I would love to get the source code modification (diff) on update so that I can read the code without cliking to all the links in the update mail. Now that we use smalltalkhub we should be able to do it. Stef On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:46 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote:
Can we please convert this to work with fogbugz asap? I'm finding it difficult to track our progress without it... we've been spoiled ;)
----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Resuming-Issue-Tracker-Mailing-List-tp4679712.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
stephane ducasse wrote
I would love to get the source code modification (diff) on update so that I can read the code without cliking to all the links in the update mail.
Yes! It'd also be great if the integration update emails linked to the monkey mirror instead of fogbugz, so we could get details without logging into fbz. I'm sometimes on the road without my credentials (1Password is a blessing and a curse;)) and would like to see what's going on, but can't get past the fbz login screen. Also, obviously most people do not have an account there, but may want to follow along... Although it seems maybe the monkey mirror does not have permalinks? e.g. http://bugs.pharo.org/issues/id/7602?_k=67AyslvzTyZN3vYD seems to have a seaside session id and doesn't seem to work without it... ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Resuming-Issue-Tracker-Mailing-List-tp4679712p4680036.... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
agreed Can you open a ticket? Stef On Apr 7, 2013, at 6:00 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote:
stephane ducasse wrote
I would love to get the source code modification (diff) on update so that I can read the code without cliking to all the links in the update mail.
Yes! It'd also be great if the integration update emails linked to the monkey mirror instead of fogbugz, so we could get details without logging into fbz. I'm sometimes on the road without my credentials (1Password is a blessing and a curse;)) and would like to see what's going on, but can't get past the fbz login screen. Also, obviously most people do not have an account there, but may want to follow along... Although it seems maybe the monkey mirror does not have permalinks? e.g. http://bugs.pharo.org/issues/id/7602?_k=67AyslvzTyZN3vYD seems to have a seaside session id and doesn't seem to work without it...
----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Resuming-Issue-Tracker-Mailing-List-tp4679712p4680036.... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
http://bugs.pharo.org/issues/id/7602 should work (for this particular one, there is a bug in penelope preventing it to be displayed) But otherwise, you can always refer a bug by http://bugs.pharo.org/issues/id/#{bug_id} With Camillo we want also to add in fogbugz a "public link" button :) Ben On Apr 7, 2013, at 12:46 PM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@free.fr> wrote:
agreed Can you open a ticket?
Stef
On Apr 7, 2013, at 6:00 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote:
stephane ducasse wrote
I would love to get the source code modification (diff) on update so that I can read the code without cliking to all the links in the update mail.
Yes! It'd also be great if the integration update emails linked to the monkey mirror instead of fogbugz, so we could get details without logging into fbz. I'm sometimes on the road without my credentials (1Password is a blessing and a curse;)) and would like to see what's going on, but can't get past the fbz login screen. Also, obviously most people do not have an account there, but may want to follow along... Although it seems maybe the monkey mirror does not have permalinks? e.g. http://bugs.pharo.org/issues/id/7602?_k=67AyslvzTyZN3vYD seems to have a seaside session id and doesn't seem to work without it...
----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Resuming-Issue-Tracker-Mailing-List-tp4679712p4680036.... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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