[Pharo-project] Experimental Cocoa OS-X based Squeak Cog JIT VM 5.8b3.
I've stuck a version (5.8b3) of the cocoa based os-x squeak cog JIT based VM in my experimental folder. http://homepage.mac.com/johnmci/.Public/experimental/Squeak%205.8b3.app.zip This VM is built from the Cog sources (with some minor changes for the iPhone) & revised & fixed Socket Plugin. It currently does NOT contain any external plugins. I did check in the changes to squeakvm.org that are required to build this VM excluding the required Cog changes... People are invited to take it for a whirl, report any performance gains, issues and especially crashes. PS (a) yes shortly we'll get the iPhone changes folded back into the source tree so you can build the VM. (b) yes when resizing a window you get neat graphic effects (fixing that issue is non-trival). (c) As time permits we'll look into rebuild this rather long list of plugins. ClipboardExtendedPlugin.bundle CroquetPlugin.bundle CurlPlugin.bundle FloatMathPlugin.bundle FT2Plugin.bundle IA32ABI.bundle KedamaPlugin.bundle KedamaPlugin2.bundle LocalePlugin.bundle mpeg3Plugin.bundle ObjectiveCPlugin.bundle OggPlugin.bundle PrintJobPlugin.bundle QuicktimePlugin.bundle RomePlugin.bundle SerialExtendedUnixPlugin.bundle ServicesPlugin.bundle SpellingPlugin.bundle SqueakFFIPrims.bundle TestOSAPlugin.bundle UnixOSProcessPlugin.bundle -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===========================================================================
On 08/26/2010 12:12 AM, John M McIntosh wrote:
I've stuck a version (5.8b3) of the cocoa based os-x squeak cog JIT based VM in my experimental folder.
http://homepage.mac.com/johnmci/.Public/experimental/Squeak%205.8b3.app.zip
This VM is built from the Cog sources (with some minor changes for the iPhone) & revised & fixed Socket Plugin. It currently does NOT contain any external plugins. I did check in the changes to squeakvm.org that are required to build this VM excluding the required Cog changes...
People are invited to take it for a whirl, report any performance gains, issues and especially crashes.
I did a short test with Seaside. It did not crash and all tests are green. Rendering is about two to three times faster which seems to be in line with the performance gains other people report for other applications. Cheers Philippe
On 26 Aug 2010, at 08:53, Philippe Marschall wrote:
On 08/26/2010 12:12 AM, John M McIntosh wrote:
I've stuck a version (5.8b3) of the cocoa based os-x squeak cog JIT based VM in my experimental folder.
http://homepage.mac.com/johnmci/.Public/experimental/Squeak%205.8b3.app.zip
This VM is built from the Cog sources (with some minor changes for the iPhone) & revised & fixed Socket Plugin. It currently does NOT contain any external plugins. I did check in the changes to squeakvm.org that are required to build this VM excluding the required Cog changes...
People are invited to take it for a whirl, report any performance gains, issues and especially crashes.
I did a short test with Seaside. It did not crash and all tests are green. Rendering is about two to three times faster which seems to be in line with the performance gains other people report for other applications.
Cheers Philippe
I did some tests as well, very impressive indeed. I tested pharo-core 1.2 as well as a seaside image based on pharo 1.1 with Glorp and PostgreSQL: everything worked as expected. I did a quick benchmark on that last image: where I used to get 70 requests/second I now get 230 requests/second. This is really amazing. Thanks Eliot, John and everybody else who made this possible. I hope the linux VM is equally fast. Sven
now :) I still would like the non jitted VM to be used to kick us to optimize. Especially since on specific devices the JIT may not exist or be forbidden. Stef
On 26 Aug 2010, at 21:44, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
I hope the linux VM is equally fast.
Is the COG VM capable of running headless on Linux ? sven@bladerunner:~/Smalltalk$ ./coglinux/bin/squeak -version 3.9-7 #2 Wed Aug 18 19:45:40 GMT 2010 gcc 4.1.2 Croquet Closure Cog VM [CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog.26] Linux cern 2.6.18-194.8.1.el5PAE #1 SMP Fri Jul 2 10:18:13 CEST 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux plugin path: /home/sven/Smalltalk/coglinux/lib/squeak/3.9-7/ [default: /home/sven/Smalltalk/coglinux/lib/squeak/3.9-7/] sven@bladerunner:~/Smalltalk$ ./coglinux/bin/squeak -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null seaside3.lr.cog.image This doesn't seem to work, no errors to be seen anywhere. Can I enable some debugging output ? This same image runs perfectly well with a display, as in sven@bladerunner:~/Smalltalk$ ./coglinux/bin/squeak seaside3.lr.cog.image Thx, Sven
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@beta9.be>wrote:
On 26 Aug 2010, at 21:44, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
I hope the linux VM is equally fast.
Is the COG VM capable of running headless on Linux ?
We routinely run it headless on linux using -vm-display-null.
sven@bladerunner:~/Smalltalk$ ./coglinux/bin/squeak -version 3.9-7 #2 Wed Aug 18 19:45:40 GMT 2010 gcc 4.1.2 Croquet Closure Cog VM [CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog.26] Linux cern 2.6.18-194.8.1.el5PAE #1 SMP Fri Jul 2 10:18:13 CEST 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux plugin path: /home/sven/Smalltalk/coglinux/lib/squeak/3.9-7/ [default: /home/sven/Smalltalk/coglinux/lib/squeak/3.9-7/]
sven@bladerunner:~/Smalltalk$ ./coglinux/bin/squeak -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null seaside3.lr.cog.image
This doesn't seem to work, no errors to be seen anywhere. Can I enable some debugging output ?
Try -sendtrace, e.g. ./coglinux/bin/squeak -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null -sendtrace seaside3.lr.cog.image
This same image runs perfectly well with a display, as in
sven@bladerunner:~/Smalltalk$ ./coglinux/bin/squeak seaside3.lr.cog.image
What does your image do? Does it depend on any additional plugins or shared objects? Are these also present in your Cog installation? HTH Eliot
Thx,
Sven
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It works now: I tried closing all open windows in the image and now it runs headless. I thought that wasn't necessary with other VMs but maybe I always did so without thinking about it. Thanks for answering, Eliot. Sven On 27 Aug 2010, at 20:46, Eliot Miranda wrote:
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@beta9.be> wrote:
On 26 Aug 2010, at 21:44, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
I hope the linux VM is equally fast.
Is the COG VM capable of running headless on Linux ?
We routinely run it headless on linux using -vm-display-null.
sven@bladerunner:~/Smalltalk$ ./coglinux/bin/squeak -version 3.9-7 #2 Wed Aug 18 19:45:40 GMT 2010 gcc 4.1.2 Croquet Closure Cog VM [CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog.26] Linux cern 2.6.18-194.8.1.el5PAE #1 SMP Fri Jul 2 10:18:13 CEST 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux plugin path: /home/sven/Smalltalk/coglinux/lib/squeak/3.9-7/ [default: /home/sven/Smalltalk/coglinux/lib/squeak/3.9-7/]
sven@bladerunner:~/Smalltalk$ ./coglinux/bin/squeak -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null seaside3.lr.cog.image
This doesn't seem to work, no errors to be seen anywhere. Can I enable some debugging output ?
Try -sendtrace, e.g. ./coglinux/bin/squeak -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null -sendtrace seaside3.lr.cog.image
This same image runs perfectly well with a display, as in
sven@bladerunner:~/Smalltalk$ ./coglinux/bin/squeak seaside3.lr.cog.image
What does your image do? Does it depend on any additional plugins or shared objects? Are these also present in your Cog installation?
HTH Eliot
Thx,
Sven
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@beta9.be> wrote:
It works now: I tried closing all open windows in the image and now it runs headless. I thought that wasn't necessary with other VMs but maybe I always did so without thinking about it.
I confirm I had to close an open window in the image before being able to run with -vm-display-null. I tried with -sendtrace and got no result. If the window is not closed, nothing seems to happen. To reproduce on linux: 1) download http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Pier%202/248/artifact/Pier-2.0-OneClick.z... 2) unzip the file 3) cd into the directory 4) execute: ./Contents/Linux/squeakvm -plugins ./Contents/Linux -encoding latin1 -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null -sendtrace ./Contents/Resources/Pier.image the prompt is not returned to the user (which is ok), but 'http://localhost:8080/pier' does not answer. 5) press Ctrl-c to kill the vm 6) execute the same line and change -vm-display-null to -vm-display-X11 7) Pharo opens, close the Seaside adapters window 8) save your image 9) execute same line as in 4) now http://localhost:8080/pier displays the correct page. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry
Thanks John. It seems this is even a little faster (at least with tinyBenchmarks) than the image produced by Eliot john 10 tinyBenchmarks '721126760 bytecodes/sec; 55015015 sends/sec' 10 tinyBenchmarks '717589348 bytecodes/sec; 55483560 sends/sec' 10 tinyBenchmarks '706206896 bytecodes/sec; 55562428 sends/sec' eliot 10 tinyBenchmarks '626682986 bytecodes/sec; 54326849 sends/sec' 10 tinyBenchmarks '625152625 bytecodes/sec; 54251448 sends/sec' 10 tinyBenchmarks '630153846 bytecodes/sec; 54326849 sends/sec' A difference I found with Eliot VM and your previous ones is shortcuts. In eliot image, to select words, I do shift + ctrl + narrow, or shift + command + narrow. In yours, I only can do shift + command + narrow. And if I do shift + ctrl + narrow the mouse cursos doesn't even move. cheers mariano On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:12 AM, John M McIntosh < johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com> wrote:
I've stuck a version (5.8b3) of the cocoa based os-x squeak cog JIT based VM in my experimental folder.
http://homepage.mac.com/johnmci/.Public/experimental/Squeak%205.8b3.app.zip
This VM is built from the Cog sources (with some minor changes for the iPhone) & revised & fixed Socket Plugin. It currently does NOT contain any external plugins. I did check in the changes to squeakvm.org that are required to build this VM excluding the required Cog changes...
People are invited to take it for a whirl, report any performance gains, issues and especially crashes.
PS
(a) yes shortly we'll get the iPhone changes folded back into the source tree so you can build the VM. (b) yes when resizing a window you get neat graphic effects (fixing that issue is non-trival). (c) As time permits we'll look into rebuild this rather long list of plugins.
ClipboardExtendedPlugin.bundle CroquetPlugin.bundle CurlPlugin.bundle FloatMathPlugin.bundle FT2Plugin.bundle IA32ABI.bundle KedamaPlugin.bundle KedamaPlugin2.bundle LocalePlugin.bundle mpeg3Plugin.bundle ObjectiveCPlugin.bundle OggPlugin.bundle PrintJobPlugin.bundle QuicktimePlugin.bundle RomePlugin.bundle SerialExtendedUnixPlugin.bundle ServicesPlugin.bundle SpellingPlugin.bundle SqueakFFIPrims.bundle TestOSAPlugin.bundle UnixOSProcessPlugin.bundle
-- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===========================================================================
2010/8/26 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>:
Thanks John. It seems this is even a little faster (at least with tinyBenchmarks) than the image produced by Eliot
john
10 tinyBenchmarks '721126760 bytecodes/sec; 55015015 sends/sec' 10 tinyBenchmarks '717589348 bytecodes/sec; 55483560 sends/sec' 10 tinyBenchmarks '706206896 bytecodes/sec; 55562428 sends/sec'
eliot
10 tinyBenchmarks '626682986 bytecodes/sec; 54326849 sends/sec' 10 tinyBenchmarks '625152625 bytecodes/sec; 54251448 sends/sec' 10 tinyBenchmarks '630153846 bytecodes/sec; 54326849 sends/sec'
A difference I found with Eliot VM and your previous ones is shortcuts.
In eliot image, to select words, I do shift + ctrl + narrow, or shift + command + narrow.
In yours, I only can do shift + command + narrow.
And if I do shift + ctrl + narrow the mouse cursos doesn't even move.
Maybe your arrow key is to narrow ? Nicolas
cheers
mariano
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:12 AM, John M McIntosh <johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com> wrote:
I've stuck a version (5.8b3) of the cocoa based os-x squeak cog JIT based VM in my experimental folder.
http://homepage.mac.com/johnmci/.Public/experimental/Squeak%205.8b3.app.zip
This VM is built from the Cog sources (with some minor changes for the iPhone) & revised & fixed Socket Plugin. It currently does NOT contain any external plugins. Â I did check in the changes to squeakvm.org that are required to build this VM excluding the required Cog changes...
People are invited to take it for a whirl, report any performance gains, issues and especially crashes.
PS
(a) yes shortly we'll get the iPhone changes folded back into the source tree so you can build the VM. (b) yes when resizing a window you get neat graphic effects (fixing that issue is non-trival). (c) As time permits we'll look into rebuild this rather long list of plugins.
ClipboardExtendedPlugin.bundle CroquetPlugin.bundle CurlPlugin.bundle FloatMathPlugin.bundle FT2Plugin.bundle IA32ABI.bundle KedamaPlugin.bundle KedamaPlugin2.bundle LocalePlugin.bundle mpeg3Plugin.bundle ObjectiveCPlugin.bundle OggPlugin.bundle PrintJobPlugin.bundle QuicktimePlugin.bundle RomePlugin.bundle SerialExtendedUnixPlugin.bundle ServicesPlugin.bundle SpellingPlugin.bundle SqueakFFIPrims.bundle TestOSAPlugin.bundle UnixOSProcessPlugin.bundle
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2010/8/26 Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com>:
2010/8/26 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com>:
Thanks John. It seems this is even a little faster (at least with tinyBenchmarks) than the image produced by Eliot
john
10 tinyBenchmarks '721126760 bytecodes/sec; 55015015 sends/sec' 10 tinyBenchmarks '717589348 bytecodes/sec; 55483560 sends/sec' 10 tinyBenchmarks '706206896 bytecodes/sec; 55562428 sends/sec'
eliot
10 tinyBenchmarks '626682986 bytecodes/sec; 54326849 sends/sec' 10 tinyBenchmarks '625152625 bytecodes/sec; 54251448 sends/sec' 10 tinyBenchmarks '630153846 bytecodes/sec; 54326849 sends/sec'
A difference I found with Eliot VM and your previous ones is shortcuts.
In eliot image, to select words, I do shift + ctrl + narrow, or shift + command + narrow.
In yours, I only can do shift + command + narrow.
And if I do shift + ctrl + narrow the mouse cursos doesn't even move.
Maybe your arrow key is to narrow ?
or even too narrow :(
Nicolas
cheers
mariano
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:12 AM, John M McIntosh <johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com> wrote:
I've stuck a version (5.8b3) of the cocoa based os-x squeak cog JIT based VM in my experimental folder.
http://homepage.mac.com/johnmci/.Public/experimental/Squeak%205.8b3.app.zip
This VM is built from the Cog sources (with some minor changes for the iPhone) & revised & fixed Socket Plugin. It currently does NOT contain any external plugins. Â I did check in the changes to squeakvm.org that are required to build this VM excluding the required Cog changes...
People are invited to take it for a whirl, report any performance gains, issues and especially crashes.
PS
(a) yes shortly we'll get the iPhone changes folded back into the source tree so you can build the VM. (b) yes when resizing a window you get neat graphic effects (fixing that issue is non-trival). (c) As time permits we'll look into rebuild this rather long list of plugins.
ClipboardExtendedPlugin.bundle CroquetPlugin.bundle CurlPlugin.bundle FloatMathPlugin.bundle FT2Plugin.bundle IA32ABI.bundle KedamaPlugin.bundle KedamaPlugin2.bundle LocalePlugin.bundle mpeg3Plugin.bundle ObjectiveCPlugin.bundle OggPlugin.bundle PrintJobPlugin.bundle QuicktimePlugin.bundle RomePlugin.bundle SerialExtendedUnixPlugin.bundle ServicesPlugin.bundle SpellingPlugin.bundle SqueakFFIPrims.bundle TestOSAPlugin.bundle UnixOSProcessPlugin.bundle
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On 2010-08-26, at 11:52 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
A difference I found with Eliot VM and your previous ones is shortcuts.
In eliot image, to select words, I do shift + ctrl + narrow, or shift + command + narrow.
In yours, I only can do shift + command + narrow.
And if I do shift + ctrl + narrow the mouse cursos doesn't even move.
cheer
What is the 'narrow' key? -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===========================================================================
2010/8/27 John M McIntosh <johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com>
On 2010-08-26, at 11:52 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
A difference I found with Eliot VM and your previous ones is shortcuts.
In eliot image, to select words, I do shift + ctrl + narrow, or shift + command + narrow.
In yours, I only can do shift + command + narrow.
And if I do shift + ctrl + narrow the mouse cursos doesn't even move.
cheer
What is the 'narrow' key?
sorry I eant arrow, left, right http://bit.ly/coumEn thanks
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That's a bug, well actually apple changed something between 10.5 and 10.6 I've a fix pending. On 2010-08-27, at 12:42 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
2010/8/27 John M McIntosh <johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com>
On 2010-08-26, at 11:52 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
A difference I found with Eliot VM and your previous ones is shortcuts.
In eliot image, to select words, I do shift + ctrl + narrow, or shift + command + narrow.
In yours, I only can do shift + command + narrow.
And if I do shift + ctrl + narrow the mouse cursos doesn't even move.
cheer
What is the 'narrow' key?
sorry I eant arrow, left, right
thanks
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I tested the VM, and it works just fine. However, I also noticed that I cannot move between words by pressing ctrl+left/right. This is a pretty nice thing to have. I am not sure I understand what this has to do with the VM, but it is obviously the only thing that changed. Is there anything I could do to help fixing this? Cheers, Doru On 27 Aug 2010, at 09:42, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
2010/8/27 John M McIntosh <johnmci@smalltalkconsulting.com>
On 2010-08-26, at 11:52 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
A difference I found with Eliot VM and your previous ones is shortcuts.
In eliot image, to select words, I do shift + ctrl + narrow, or shift + command + narrow.
In yours, I only can do shift + command + narrow.
And if I do shift + ctrl + narrow the mouse cursos doesn't even move.
cheer
What is the 'narrow' key?
sorry I eant arrow, left, right
thanks
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