Re: [Pharo-project] About Flap
Lukas, That's fine if my hands are on the keyboard, but if I have one on the mouse (common when browsing), then (in Dolphin at least), I end up either right clicking on a class in an open browser, or hitting a toolbar button. For the more obscure tools, the shell menus (Tools) do the trick. Shortcuts are great, but we should also provide mouse-based options. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029
renggli@gmail.com 09/24/08 1:51 PM >>> I like the way they are in dev images. You move the mouse to the right side of the image and the flap opens. From there, you can drag&drop your favorite tool. Do you have any faster way to open a browser or a transcript?
Ctrl+B and Ctrl+T -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
On 24.09.2008, at 20:14, Bill Schwab wrote:
Lukas,
That's fine if my hands are on the keyboard, but if I have one on the mouse (common when browsing), then (in Dolphin at least), I end up either right clicking on a class in an open browser, or hitting a toolbar button. For the more obscure tools, the shell menus (Tools) do the trick. Shortcuts are great, but we should also provide mouse- based options.
remember: there will be a menu, with a "tools" entry. And there will always be the world-menu (click on the backround). the flap is not faster in the number of clicks than a pulldown menu... Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- denker@iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker
2008/9/24 Marcus Denker <denker@iam.unibe.ch>:
On 24.09.2008, at 20:14, Bill Schwab wrote:
Lukas,
That's fine if my hands are on the keyboard, but if I have one on the mouse (common when browsing), then (in Dolphin at least), I end up either right clicking on a class in an open browser, or hitting a toolbar button. For the more obscure tools, the shell menus (Tools) do the trick. Shortcuts are great, but we should also provide mouse-based options.
remember: there will be a menu, with a "tools" entry. And there will always be the world-menu (click on the backround).
the flap is not faster in the number of clicks than a pulldown menu...
well, with flaps is more convenient because you can drag a tool window and place it where you want to. While from menu - first, it placing a window automatically, and then often you need to arrange it again. How about putting a window in hand, when you opening it from menu? I find it very convenient and useful feature - it gives you chance to arrange window with no extra clicks.
Marcus
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I quite like the tools flap, when configured for auto-popout and with "solid" style... Just my 2c Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua@gmail.com> To: "An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open-sourceSmalltalk" <pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] About Flap
2008/9/24 Marcus Denker <denker@iam.unibe.ch>:
On 24.09.2008, at 20:14, Bill Schwab wrote:
Lukas,
That's fine if my hands are on the keyboard, but if I have one on the mouse (common when browsing), then (in Dolphin at least), I end up either right clicking on a class in an open browser, or hitting a toolbar button. For the more obscure tools, the shell menus (Tools) do the trick. Shortcuts are great, but we should also provide mouse-based options.
remember: there will be a menu, with a "tools" entry. And there will always be the world-menu (click on the backround).
the flap is not faster in the number of clicks than a pulldown menu...
well, with flaps is more convenient because you can drag a tool window and place it where you want to. While from menu - first, it placing a window automatically, and then often you need to arrange it again. How about putting a window in hand, when you opening it from menu? I find it very convenient and useful feature - it gives you chance to arrange window with no extra clicks.
Marcus
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-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
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OK we will go slowly there. One of the problem is that flaps are taking also a cpu On Sep 27, 2008, at 12:27 AM, Gary Chambers wrote:
I quite like the tools flap, when configured for auto-popout and with "solid" style... Just my 2c
Gary.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua@gmail.com> To: "An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open- sourceSmalltalk" <pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] About Flap
2008/9/24 Marcus Denker <denker@iam.unibe.ch>:
On 24.09.2008, at 20:14, Bill Schwab wrote:
Lukas,
That's fine if my hands are on the keyboard, but if I have one on the mouse (common when browsing), then (in Dolphin at least), I end up either right clicking on a class in an open browser, or hitting a toolbar button. For the more obscure tools, the shell menus (Tools) do the trick. Shortcuts are great, but we should also provide mouse- based options.
remember: there will be a menu, with a "tools" entry. And there will always be the world-menu (click on the backround).
the flap is not faster in the number of clicks than a pulldown menu...
well, with flaps is more convenient because you can drag a tool window and place it where you want to. While from menu - first, it placing a window automatically, and then often you need to arrange it again. How about putting a window in hand, when you opening it from menu? I find it very convenient and useful feature - it gives you chance to arrange window with no extra clicks.
Marcus
-- Marcus Denker -- denker@iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker
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