****REALLY IMPORTANT**** the Pharo market place NEEDS YOU
Hi guys We would like to improve the visibility of Pharo by - renaming the catalog of published package to marketPlace :) - have many more projects decently documented Yes click that link: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoProjectCatalog/HTML_Report/? So I imagine that you are all like me: you are too busy to add the correct information because you do not know what/how/. So I created a little class: called CatalogAdder for you and me :P It is available in last version of Versionner but I'm a simple utility class that add methods to ConfigurationOf class to declare catalog metadata. Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'DamienCassou' project: 'Pier-Gutemberg'; package: 'CatalogAdder'; load. (CatalogAdder on: ConfigurationOfXXX) defineCatalogMetadata and it creates all the methods with dummy template for you :) Check the catalog* methods and fill them up. Stef
Dears, I am using the Catalog for Pharo 2 and 3 for Phratch. My main problem is that when I update my configuration, I have to save it in my repository but also in the MetaRepo. I don't know if an automatic process can be made ? At least, what could be really great is to have the MetaRepo inside the monticello browser, Like that I don't loose time to retrieve the correct url on smalltalkhub and/or ss3. I love this catalog, and I would like to see it always up to date. Cheers, Jannik 2014-03-12 8:29 GMT+01:00 Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef@free.fr>:
Hi guys
We would like to improve the visibility of Pharo by - renaming the catalog of published package to marketPlace :)
- have many more projects decently documented
Yes click that link:
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoProjectCatalog/HTML_Report/ ?
So I imagine that you are all like me: you are too busy to add the correct information because you do not know what/how/. So I created a little class: called CatalogAdder for you and me :P It is available in last version of Versionner but
I'm a simple utility class that add methods to ConfigurationOf class to declare catalog metadata.
Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'DamienCassou' project: 'Pier-Gutemberg'; package: 'CatalogAdder'; load.
(CatalogAdder on: ConfigurationOfXXX) defineCatalogMetadata
and it creates all the methods with dummy template for you :)
Check the catalog* methods and fill them up.
Stef
-- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/
On 12 Mar 2014, at 11:28, jannik laval <jannik.laval@gmail.com> wrote:
At least, what could be really great is to have the MetaRepo inside the monticello browser, Like that I don't loose time to retrieve the correct url on smalltalkhub and/or ss3.
+1
2014-03-12 11:40 GMT+01:00 Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef@free.fr>:
At least, what could be really great is to have the MetaRepo inside the
monticello browser, Like that I don't loose time to retrieve the correct url on smalltalkhub and/or ss3.
+1
I need people to help :)
Yes :) But for that, the integrator just have to add the 2 metaRepo as there are the pharo and pharoInbox. Or should we create a script that you will integrate ? I am not sure about the process. Jannik -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/
+1 (but AFAIK, versionner can do that) Esteban On 12 Mar 2014, at 11:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
On 12 Mar 2014, at 11:28, jannik laval <jannik.laval@gmail.com> wrote:
At least, what could be really great is to have the MetaRepo inside the monticello browser, Like that I don't loose time to retrieve the correct url on smalltalkhub and/or ss3.
+1
Hum, not sure. Versionner can create a version and push it on one of the repository. I want to create a version on my repo then copy this version on metaRepos. Cheers, Jannik 2014-03-12 11:41 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:
+1
(but AFAIK, versionner can do that)
Esteban
On 12 Mar 2014, at 11:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
On 12 Mar 2014, at 11:28, jannik laval <jannik.laval@gmail.com> wrote:
At least, what could be really great is to have the MetaRepo inside the
monticello browser, Like that I don't loose time to retrieve the correct url on smalltalkhub and/or ss3.
+1
-- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/
2014-03-12 4:29 GMT-03:00 Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef@free.fr>:
Hi guys
We would like to improve the visibility of Pharo by - renaming the catalog of published package to marketPlace :)
- have many more projects decently documented
If it's not on sale, I wouldn't name it market nor store. :) We should define if what's listed in the current catalog are modules, packages or what, then the word Catalog (which is fine for me), could be rethought. Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo
On Mar 12, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com> wrote:
If it's not on sale, I wouldn't name it market nor store. :)
+1 Which leads to the question: can my company sell a product there? how? what are the steps? I donât want to sound brutal here but market is raw, so I say this as a realist friend: If thatâs not clear first, then naming it "store" would not make it one Said that, itâs certainly an innovation in our niche worth exploring. U8 is trying that model, not sure about results⦠so low expectations, but starting has a lot of merit Without the start you donât even have the chance So, looking forward to hear news about this PS: hey.. BTW.. releasing a crazy idea here⦠what about making the other part of a market? I mean the demand. Do we even know what the demand is or would be? A Pharo market place would have a place to submit a demand? like making an offer to pay X for mapping some Y API for example? Would that make sense?
Hmm, we're getting a bit off topic, I fear. There are lots of very useful packages available for Pharo (and tons more historic ones). They become easier to use/find if: - they are in a public monticello repository - they have documentation (internal and external) - they have a metacello configuration - they have their metacello configuration where the configuration browser can find them - they have a CI job - they have metacello catalog methods (very new) What Stef wants it to make it even easier for people to learn about what is available using a nice, sexy catalog you browse. Call it marketing, sales, a store, a marketplace, the name does not matter a lot (but I agree, if no actual sales for money are involved, and it would not, the name should not be confusing). So, let's make the catalog real ! On 12 Mar 2014, at 14:41, Sebastian Sastre <sebastian@flowingconcept.com> wrote:
On Mar 12, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com> wrote:
If it's not on sale, I wouldn't name it market nor store. :)
+1
Which leads to the question:
can my company sell a product there? how? what are the steps?
I donât want to sound brutal here but market is raw, so I say this as a realist friend:
If thatâs not clear first, then naming it "store" would not make it one
Said that, itâs certainly an innovation in our niche worth exploring.
U8 is trying that model, not sure about resultsâ¦
so low expectations, but starting has a lot of merit
Without the start you donât even have the chance
So, looking forward to hear news about this
PS: hey.. BTW.. releasing a crazy idea here⦠what about making the other part of a market? I mean the demand. Do we even know what the demand is or would be? A Pharo market place would have a place to submit a demand? like making an offer to pay X for mapping some Y API for example?
Would that make sense?
On Mar 12, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
make it even easier for people to learn about what is available using a nice, sexy catalog you browse. Call it marketing, sales, a store, a marketplace, the name does not matter a lot (but I agree, if no actual sales for money are involved, and it would not, the name should not be confusing).
I matter exactly as much as your care about getting people confused and expectations broken So I fear for shoots in the foot
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