"Claude, My New Pair Programming Partner" â New blog post on all: objects all: theTime
Dear Pharo users and developers, I posted a first article in a series about using AI in Pharo development. After seeing the world embrace agentic development tools, I decided it was time to look into them and see how they can be used for software development in Pharo. https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/24 As always, all feedback is welcome. Happy reading! Ciao, Koen
About AI and truck factor This post https://www.shapeandship.ai/p/cheap-to-build-costly-to-keep argues that with AI coding the truck factor tends toward 0... /In a post-mortem, this surfaces as "nobody knew this code existed," which is worse than "only one person knew."/ They talk about "comprehension debt" (evolution of the technical debt concept) cheers nicolas On 2026-05-07 22:01, Koen De Hondt wrote:
Dear Pharo users and developers,
I posted a first article in a series about using AI in Pharo development. After seeing the world embrace agentic development tools, I decided it was time to look into them and see how they can be used for software development in Pharo.
https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/24
As always, all feedback is welcome.
Happy reading!
Ciao, Koen
-- Nicolas Anquetil Evref team -- Inria Lille
Le 8 mai 2026 à 10:17, Nicolas Anquetil <nicolas.anquetil@inria.fr> a écrit :
About AI and truck factor
This post https://www.shapeandship.ai/p/cheap-to-build-costly-to-keep argues that with AI coding the truck factor tends toward 0... In a post-mortem, this surfaces as "nobody knew this code existed," which is worse than "only one person knew. »
Indeed, this is a real problem. However I think that using coding agents can be very useful for Pharo. It can help us to develop features that otherwise we will simply not do. For example I am thinink about Morphic and its window managing system. Morphic is already old code that we do not understand and that we will get rid off. I would like to experiment with Claude to see if we can have that implemented (There is one person on Discord that did this for example: www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF2Bcl2Mu3Q <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF2Bcl2Mu3Q>) Also, Firefox people found and fixed insane security bugs thanks to LLMs too: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2026/05/behind-the-scenes-hardening-firefox/ We could also benefit from that.
They talk about "comprehension debt" (evolution of the technical debt concept)
cheers
nicolas
On 2026-05-07 22:01, Koen De Hondt wrote:
Dear Pharo users and developers,
I posted a first article in a series about using AI in Pharo development. After seeing the world embrace agentic development tools, I decided it was time to look into them and see how they can be used for software development in Pharo.
https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/24
As always, all feedback is welcome.
Happy reading!
Ciao, Koen -- Nicolas Anquetil Evref team -- Inria Lille
I love it. IA look like crap generator. I see in some text Iâm reading. So for the code I can image. S
On 8 May 2026, at 10:17, Nicolas Anquetil <nicolas.anquetil@inria.fr> wrote:
About AI and truck factor
This post https://www.shapeandship.ai/p/cheap-to-build-costly-to-keep argues that with AI coding the truck factor tends toward 0... In a post-mortem, this surfaces as "nobody knew this code existed," which is worse than "only one person knew."
They talk about "comprehension debt" (evolution of the technical debt concept)
cheers
nicolas
On 2026-05-07 22:01, Koen De Hondt wrote:
Dear Pharo users and developers,
I posted a first article in a series about using AI in Pharo development. After seeing the world embrace agentic development tools, I decided it was time to look into them and see how they can be used for software development in Pharo.
https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/24
As always, all feedback is welcome.
Happy reading!
Ciao, Koen -- Nicolas Anquetil Evref team -- Inria Lille
I like what Linus Torvalds say here : https://thenewstack.io/torvalds-ai-programming-productivity/ In the best of cases, is a productivity tool. Just like compilers were at a point (compilers did not have all the ecological issues associated, of course). The first thing we need to do is stop anthropomorphizing tools. It really freaks me out when people talk about LLMs â and agents â as if they were human. Esteban On 5/8/26 17:26, Stephane Ducasse via Pharo-dev wrote:
I love it. IA look like crap generator.
I see in some text Iâm reading. So for the code I can image.
S
On 8 May 2026, at 10:17, Nicolas Anquetil <nicolas.anquetil@inria.fr> wrote:
About AI and truck factor
This post https://www.shapeandship.ai/p/cheap-to-build-costly-to-keep argues that with AI coding the truck factor tends toward 0... /In a post-mortem, this surfaces as "nobody knew this code existed," which is worse than "only one person knew."/
They talk about "comprehension debt" (evolution of the technical debt concept)
cheers
nicolas
On 2026-05-07 22:01, Koen De Hondt wrote:
Dear Pharo users and developers,
I posted a first article in a series about using AI in Pharo development. After seeing the world embrace agentic development tools, I decided it was time to look into them and see how they can be used for software development in Pharo.
https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/24
As always, all feedback is welcome.
Happy reading!
Ciao, Koen -- Nicolas Anquetil Evref team -- Inria Lille
may be AI will allow us to raise the level of abstraction, just as compilers, or OO did ? We (humans) will still program (through AI) but the programming language will be different nicolas On 2026-06-07 18:39, Esteban Lorenzano via Pharo-dev wrote:
I like what Linus Torvalds say here : https://thenewstack.io/torvalds-ai-programming-productivity/
In the best of cases, is a productivity tool. Just like compilers were at a point (compilers did not have all the ecological issues associated, of course).
The first thing we need to do is stop anthropomorphizing tools. It really freaks me out when people talk about LLMs â and agents â as if they were human.
Esteban
On 5/8/26 17:26, Stephane Ducasse via Pharo-dev wrote:
I love it. IA look like crap generator.
I see in some text Iâm reading. So for the code I can image.
S
On 8 May 2026, at 10:17, Nicolas Anquetil <nicolas.anquetil@inria.fr> wrote:
About AI and truck factor
This post https://www.shapeandship.ai/p/cheap-to-build-costly-to-keep argues that with AI coding the truck factor tends toward 0... /In a post-mortem, this surfaces as "nobody knew this code existed," which is worse than "only one person knew."/
They talk about "comprehension debt" (evolution of the technical debt concept)
cheers
nicolas
On 2026-05-07 22:01, Koen De Hondt wrote:
Dear Pharo users and developers,
I posted a first article in a series about using AI in Pharo development. After seeing the world embrace agentic development tools, I decided it was time to look into them and see how they can be used for software development in Pharo.
https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/24
As always, all feedback is welcome.
Happy reading!
Ciao, Koen -- Nicolas Anquetil Evref team -- Inria Lille
-- Nicolas Anquetil Evref team -- Inria Lille
in fact Linus says AI may increment productivity x10, but compilers did it x1000, so we are not quite close :) Esteban On 6/7/26 18:47, Nicolas Anquetil wrote:
may be AI will allow us to raise the level of abstraction, just as compilers, or OO did ?
We (humans) will still program (through AI) but the programming language will be different
nicolas
On 2026-06-07 18:39, Esteban Lorenzano via Pharo-dev wrote:
I like what Linus Torvalds say here : https://thenewstack.io/torvalds-ai-programming-productivity/
In the best of cases, is a productivity tool. Just like compilers were at a point (compilers did not have all the ecological issues associated, of course).
The first thing we need to do is stop anthropomorphizing tools. It really freaks me out when people talk about LLMs â and agents â as if they were human.
Esteban
On 5/8/26 17:26, Stephane Ducasse via Pharo-dev wrote:
I love it. IA look like crap generator.
I see in some text Iâm reading. So for the code I can image.
S
On 8 May 2026, at 10:17, Nicolas Anquetil <nicolas.anquetil@inria.fr> wrote:
About AI and truck factor
This post https://www.shapeandship.ai/p/cheap-to-build-costly-to-keep argues that with AI coding the truck factor tends toward 0... /In a post-mortem, this surfaces as "nobody knew this code existed," which is worse than "only one person knew."/
They talk about "comprehension debt" (evolution of the technical debt concept)
cheers
nicolas
On 2026-05-07 22:01, Koen De Hondt wrote:
Dear Pharo users and developers,
I posted a first article in a series about using AI in Pharo development. After seeing the world embrace agentic development tools, I decided it was time to look into them and see how they can be used for software development in Pharo.
https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/24
As always, all feedback is welcome.
Happy reading!
Ciao, Koen -- Nicolas Anquetil Evref team -- Inria Lille
-- Nicolas Anquetil Evref team -- Inria Lille
-- Cyril Ferlicot-Delbecquehttps://ferlicot.fr On Sunday, June 7th, 2026 at 6:39 PM, Esteban Lorenzano via Pharo-dev <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> wrote:
I like what Linus Torvalds say here : https://thenewstack.io/torvalds-ai-programming-productivity/
In the best of cases, is a productivity tool. Just like compilers were at a point (compilers did not have all the ecological issues associated, of course).
The first thing we need to do is stop anthropomorphizing tools. It really freaks me out when people talk about LLMs â and agents â as if they were human.
+1000 I find that really creepy and so many people are doing that.
Esteban
On 5/8/26 17:26, Stephane Ducasse via Pharo-dev wrote:
I love it. IA look like crap generator.
I see in some text Iâm reading. So for the code I can image.
S
On 8 May 2026, at 10:17, Nicolas Anquetil [<nicolas.anquetil@inria.fr>](mailto:nicolas.anquetil@inria.fr) wrote:
About AI and truck factor
This post https://www.shapeandship.ai/p/cheap-to-build-costly-to-keep argues that with AI coding the truck factor tends toward 0... In a post-mortem, this surfaces as "nobody knew this code existed," which is worse than "only one person knew."
They talk about "comprehension debt" (evolution of the technical debt concept)
cheers
nicolas
On 2026-05-07 22:01, Koen De Hondt wrote:
Dear Pharo users and developers,
I posted a first article in a series about using AI in Pharo development. After seeing the world embrace agentic development tools, I decided it was time to look into them and see how they can be used for software development in Pharo.
https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/24
As always, all feedback is welcome.
Happy reading!
Ciao, Koen
-- Nicolas Anquetil Evref team -- Inria Lille
No matter how bad you think AIs are, I think there are some areas they are always useful: - scaffolding -- I have seen large projects fail because the later phases couldn't start until it was too late. If you have a good spec for a big project and all the interface points, an AI is great for making temporary working implementations of all the parts. Although it can raise amuzing questions when a 6-month 2-person project has a 100% working scaffold in a weekend. - Code reviews with an LLM. An agent has a limited token space. But with a custom LLM looking things like code vs comment discrepancies, it can turn up a lot of issues. ----- Original message ----- From: Esteban Lorenzano via Pharo-dev <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> To: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org Cc: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@netc.eu> Subject: [Pharo-dev] Re: "Claude, My New Pair Programming Partner" â New blog post on all: objects all: theTime Date: Sunday, June 07, 2026 12:39 PM I like what Linus Torvalds say here : https://thenewstack.io/torvalds-ai-programming-productivity/ In the best of cases, is a productivity tool. Just like compilers were at a point (compilers did not have all the ecological issues associated, of course). The first thing we need to do is stop anthropomorphizing tools. It really freaks me out when people talk about LLMs â and agents â as if they were human. Esteban On 5/8/26 17:26, Stephane Ducasse via Pharo-dev wrote:
I love it. IA look like crap generator.
I see in some text Iâm reading. So for the code I can image.
S
On 8 May 2026, at 10:17, Nicolas Anquetil <nicolas.anquetil@inria.fr> wrote:
About AI and truck factor
This post https://www.shapeandship.ai/p/cheap-to-build-costly-to-keep argues that with AI coding the truck factor tends toward 0... *In a post-mortem, this surfaces as "nobody knew this code existed," which is worse than "only one person knew."*
They talk about "comprehension debt" (evolution of the technical debt concept)
cheers
nicolas
On 2026-05-07 22:01, Koen De Hondt wrote:
Dear Pharo users and developers,
I posted a first article in a series about using AI in Pharo development. After seeing the world embrace agentic development tools, I decided it was time to look into them and see how they can be used for software development in Pharo.
https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/24
As always, all feedback is welcome.
Happy reading!
Ciao, Koen -- Nicolas Anquetil Evref team -- Inria Lille
Hello Koen and everyone. Itâs really nice to see people getting more and more interested in AI, especially for Pharo. But I think you are wrong about ChatPharo. I understand very clearly your point that the AI for and in Pharo is in his realy stagses. But Iâm working very hard to make it more usable for more and more people ( people are also scared of using AI in Pharo because they had bad experiences with ChatGPT when it was launched in 2022). It wasnât created to do code generation tasks. That said. I wanted to clarify some points about ChatPharo: - ChatPharo is not a toy. It has a big engineering part inside of it (Multiple people, including PhDs, and engineers, contribute to it). Indeed, Iâm not doing a lot of publicity because i also doing my PhD at the same time. - From an AI engineer's POV, the dependencies on the company that provides models accessible from the web are not very convenient. I agreed that Claude is the best model for code generation (and it appears everything else but you are limited to the company API and the backend. FYI: the newest Claude and OpenAI models have more than 1T parameters.) But let me ask you a question, what if tmrw claude changes its policies now after their deal with SpaceX? (They will expect more and more people that subscirbe to their 20 euros, right? ) Well, in that case, any CEO in his right mind will increase the price ( it will be one million cause of that, of course, why do they do that, whatever they tell, the people will buy it because now they canât live without it). Thatâs why itâs not very convenient ( this is what i think). - Ollama ( that were considered one of the best companies that provided the models for free (local and on the cloud). Now you should pay for the model inference on the cloud ( it was free ), because they saw that more people are getting interested in the model that runs on the cloud ( and itâs free), they now prohibit you from using it unless you pay 20 euros. - Why do you think that the model that appears now is getting better? Itâs not training or something else. There's nothing left in the whole internet to train on anyway. They now want real data ( you might see in most of the newest technical papers the sentence high quality token. You might ask yourself a question about where this data appears if there is nothing left on the internet to train? Now, make no mistakes, Iâm not telling you NOT to use AI for Pharo. I and (we) are and (wonât) be able to concure with the companies that have models that have > 1T of parameters. (We don't have the budget, nor the resources for that). Iâm just trying to justify that chatpharo for now is not (and wonât) be capable of competing with the models from the biggest company. Ofc everyone is free. But I wanted to just shed light on a few points that more and more people ask questions about. Have a good weekend! â OA https://github.com/pharo-llm
Le 7 mai 2026 à 22:01, Koen De Hondt <koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> a écrit :
Dear Pharo users and developers,
I posted a first article in a series about using AI in Pharo development. After seeing the world embrace agentic development tools, I decided it was time to look into them and see how they can be used for software development in Pharo.
https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/24
As always, all feedback is welcome.
Happy reading!
Ciao, Koen
participants (8)
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Aaron Wohl -
Cyril FERLICOT-DELBECQUE -
Esteban Lorenzano -
Koen De Hondt -
Nicolas Anquetil -
omar abedelkader -
sducasseatwork＠mailo.com -
Sebastian Jordan