Nicer scrollbars [was RE: Fixing inconsistent buttons look in PharoUI]
And while I was at it, I made the scrollbars nicer. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13136 All of this made me notice that there are quite a number of little glitches all over. Especially when using larger fonts. Phil From: Philippe Back [mailto:phil@highoctane.be] Sent: mercredi 26 mars 2014 10:51 To: 'pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org' Subject: Fixing inconsistent buttons look in PharoUI I've made a pass at fixing the buttons look (border in some places, no border in others). Spec-generated buttons are using the ButtonModel and MorphicButtonAdapter but the defaultSpec fo the the ButtonModel is asking the borderWidth and borderColor from the model, which is all nice but should be looking like the standard PluggableButtonMorphs, which do have a border. So, aligned now. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13135 Slice in inbox: SLICE-Issue-13135-Inconsistent-look-of-buttons-across-tools-Border-no-border -PhilippeBack.1 Phil --- Ce courrier électronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant parce que la protection avast! Antivirus est active. http://www.avast.com
Phil, Nice. You should be attention to the refactoring in the UITheme hierarchy as Pharo3Theme is now a direct child of UITheme The SLICE is 13118 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13118/Clean-up-the-mess-in-UITheme-hierarc... Thanks Hilaire Le 26/03/2014 11:58, Philippe Back a écrit :
And while I was at it, I made the scrollbars nicer.
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13136
All of this made me notice that there are quite a number of little glitches all over. Especially when using larger fonts.
Phil
*From:*Philippe Back [mailto:phil@highoctane.be] *Sent:* mercredi 26 mars 2014 10:51 *To:* 'pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org' *Subject:* Fixing inconsistent buttons look in PharoUI
Iâve made a pass at fixing the buttons look (border in some places, no border in others). Spec-generated buttons are using the ButtonModel and MorphicButtonAdapter but the defaultSpec fo the the ButtonModel is asking the borderWidth and borderColor from the model, which is all nice but should be looking like the standard PluggableButtonMorphs, which do have a border.
So, aligned now.
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13135
Slice in inbox: SLICE-Issue-13135-Inconsistent-look-of-buttons-across-tools-Border-no-border-PhilippeBack.1
Phil
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Cool, you're giving me hope that one day I'll switch to the Pharo3 theme :) Thierry Le 26/03/2014 11:58, Philippe Back a écrit :
And while I was at it, I made the scrollbars nicer.
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13136
All of this made me notice that there are quite a number of little glitches all over. Especially when using larger fonts.
Phil
*From:*Philippe Back [mailto:phil@highoctane.be] *Sent:* mercredi 26 mars 2014 10:51 *To:* 'pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org' *Subject:* Fixing inconsistent buttons look in PharoUI
Iâve made a pass at fixing the buttons look (border in some places, no border in others). Spec-generated buttons are using the ButtonModel and MorphicButtonAdapter but the defaultSpec fo the the ButtonModel is asking the borderWidth and borderColor from the model, which is all nice but should be looking like the standard PluggableButtonMorphs, which do have a border.
So, aligned now.
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13135
Slice in inbox: SLICE-Issue-13135-Inconsistent-look-of-buttons-across-tools-Border-no-border-PhilippeBack.1
Phil
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If you are at it, would you be interested in trying to provide a scrollbar without the arrow buttons, and with half the width? :) Doru On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr>wrote:
Cool, you're giving me hope that one day I'll switch to the Pharo3 theme :)
Thierry
Le 26/03/2014 11:58, Philippe Back a écrit :
And while I was at it, I made the scrollbars nicer.
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13136
All of this made me notice that there are quite a number of little glitches all over. Especially when using larger fonts.
Phil
*From:*Philippe Back [mailto:phil@highoctane.be] *Sent:* mercredi 26 mars 2014 10:51 *To:* 'pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org' *Subject:* Fixing inconsistent buttons look in PharoUI
I've made a pass at fixing the buttons look (border in some places, no border in others). Spec-generated buttons are using the ButtonModel and MorphicButtonAdapter but the defaultSpec fo the the ButtonModel is asking the borderWidth and borderColor from the model, which is all nice but should be looking like the standard PluggableButtonMorphs, which do have a border.
So, aligned now.
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13135
Slice in inbox: SLICE-Issue-13135-Inconsistent-look-of-buttons- across-tools-Border-no-border-PhilippeBack.1
Phil
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On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
If you are at it, would you be interested in trying to provide a scrollbar without the arrow buttons, and with half the width? :)
Doru
Ah, like in Chrome. Well, I like the arrows :-) And I'l love the bars to be double the size. I planned to do something in that area, so, either way would work. Phil
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr
wrote:
Cool, you're giving me hope that one day I'll switch to the Pharo3 theme :)
Thierry
Le 26/03/2014 11:58, Philippe Back a écrit :
And while I was at it, I made the scrollbars nicer.
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13136
All of this made me notice that there are quite a number of little glitches all over. Especially when using larger fonts.
Phil
*From:*Philippe Back [mailto:phil@highoctane.be] *Sent:* mercredi 26 mars 2014 10:51 *To:* 'pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org' *Subject:* Fixing inconsistent buttons look in PharoUI
I've made a pass at fixing the buttons look (border in some places, no border in others). Spec-generated buttons are using the ButtonModel and MorphicButtonAdapter but the defaultSpec fo the the ButtonModel is asking the borderWidth and borderColor from the model, which is all nice but should be looking like the standard PluggableButtonMorphs, which do have a border.
So, aligned now.
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13135
Slice in inbox: SLICE-Issue-13135-Inconsistent-look-of-buttons- across-tools-Border-no-border-PhilippeBack.1
Phil
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2014-03-26 9:44 GMT-03:00 phil@highoctane.be <phil@highoctane.be>:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
If you are at it, would you be interested in trying to provide a scrollbar without the arrow buttons, and with half the width? :)
+1
Ah, like in Chrome. Well, I like the arrows :-) And I'l love the bars to be double the size.
I planned to do something in that area, so, either way would work.
Like in Chrome... and almost everywhere else. The scrolling metaphor is so ingrained that in some cases even the bar isn't displayed until the scroll intent is initiated. Esteban A. Maringolo
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com>wrote:
2014-03-26 9:44 GMT-03:00 phil@highoctane.be <phil@highoctane.be>:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
If you are at it, would you be interested in trying to provide a
scrollbar
without the arrow buttons, and with half the width? :)
+1
Ah, like in Chrome. Well, I like the arrows :-) And I'l love the bars to be double the size.
I planned to do something in that area, so, either way would work.
Like in Chrome... and almost everywhere else. The scrolling metaphor is so ingrained that in some cases even the bar isn't displayed until the scroll intent is initiated.
FWIW, Office 2013 has nice scrollbars with arrows. Along with supersmooth animations. Windows Explorer has others (which have cool arrows) and these (<-) (->) (^) things that we should put into nautilus in addition to the history dropdown. Yeah, a new plugin feature :-) Phil
Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-03-26 10:27 GMT-03:00 phil@highoctane.be <phil@highoctane.be>:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com>
Like in Chrome... and almost everywhere else. The scrolling metaphor is so ingrained that in some cases even the bar isn't displayed until the scroll intent is initiated.
FWIW, Office 2013 has nice scrollbars with arrows. Along with supersmooth animations.
Microsoft is very conservative in that regard. They aim at the broader range of END USERS, from the noviceto the computer literate one. I payed particular attention to this "scrollbar" UX in the past, and my personal research (watching people) shows that most of them use the mousewheel or simply drag the bar in mouse based UIs, and/or swipe up/down in touch based. I love supersmooth animations, but they're part of a whole transitions engine.
Windows Explorer has others (which have cool arrows) and these (<-) (->) (^) things that we should put into nautilus in addition to the history dropdown.
What are the (<-) (->) (^) you mention? :) Regards!
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com>wrote:
2014-03-26 10:27 GMT-03:00 phil@highoctane.be <phil@highoctane.be>:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo < emaringolo@gmail.com>
Like in Chrome... and almost everywhere else. The scrolling metaphor is so ingrained that in some cases even the bar isn't displayed until the scroll intent is initiated.
FWIW, Office 2013 has nice scrollbars with arrows. Along with supersmooth animations.
Microsoft is very conservative in that regard. They aim at the broader range of END USERS, from the noviceto the computer literate one.
I payed particular attention to this "scrollbar" UX in the past, and my personal research (watching people) shows that most of them use the mousewheel or simply drag the bar in mouse based UIs, and/or swipe up/down in touch based.
I love supersmooth animations, but they're part of a whole transitions engine.
Yes, true. But I am not doing any .NET and WPF anytime soon. Nor MFC.
Windows Explorer has others (which have cool arrows) and these (<-) (->) (^) things that we should put into nautilus in addition to the history dropdown.
What are the (<-) (->) (^) you mention? :)
These: [image: Inline image 1] Doable for the methods history. And maybe the workspace previous contents since we now have little toolbars in Spec. Phil
Regards!
2014-03-26 10:55 GMT-03:00 phil@highoctane.be <phil@highoctane.be>:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo < emaringolo@gmail.com> wrote:
2014-03-26 10:27 GMT-03:00 phil@highoctane.be <phil@highoctane.be>:> Windows Explorer has others (which have cool arrows) and these (<-) (->) (^)
things that we should put into nautilus in addition to the history dropdown.
What are the (<-) (->) (^) you mention? :)
These:
[image: Inline image 1]
Doable for the methods history. And maybe the workspace previous contents since we now have little toolbars in Spec.
That'd be nice. I miss the navigation history from Dolphin Browsers: http://www.object-arts.com/downloads/docs/system_browser.htm http://www.object-arts.com/downloads/docs/class_browser.htm Regards!
Well... Chrome put the scrollbar arrows back. I don't know what to say. :) Esteban A. Maringolo 2014-03-26 10:38 GMT-03:00 Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com>:
2014-03-26 10:27 GMT-03:00 phil@highoctane.be <phil@highoctane.be>:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo@gmail.com>
Like in Chrome... and almost everywhere else. The scrolling metaphor is so ingrained that in some cases even the bar isn't displayed until the scroll intent is initiated.
FWIW, Office 2013 has nice scrollbars with arrows. Along with supersmooth animations.
Microsoft is very conservative in that regard. They aim at the broader range of END USERS, from the noviceto the computer literate one.
I payed particular attention to this "scrollbar" UX in the past, and my personal research (watching people) shows that most of them use the mousewheel or simply drag the bar in mouse based UIs, and/or swipe up/down in touch based.
I love supersmooth animations, but they're part of a whole transitions engine.
Windows Explorer has others (which have cool arrows) and these (<-) (->) (^) things that we should put into nautilus in addition to the history dropdown.
What are the (<-) (->) (^) you mention? :)
Regards!
Hi guys pay attention that igor redesigned a full new class for scrollbar because the old one sucks so that we can do clever scrolling in TextEditor. Stef On 26 Mar 2014, at 13:13, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
If you are at it, would you be interested in trying to provide a scrollbar without the arrow buttons, and with half the width? :)
Doru
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote: Cool, you're giving me hope that one day I'll switch to the Pharo3 theme :)
Thierry
Le 26/03/2014 11:58, Philippe Back a écrit : And while I was at it, I made the scrollbars nicer.
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13136
All of this made me notice that there are quite a number of little glitches all over. Especially when using larger fonts.
Phil
*From:*Philippe Back [mailto:phil@highoctane.be] *Sent:* mercredi 26 mars 2014 10:51 *To:* 'pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org' *Subject:* Fixing inconsistent buttons look in PharoUI
Iâve made a pass at fixing the buttons look (border in some places, no border in others). Spec-generated buttons are using the ButtonModel and MorphicButtonAdapter but the defaultSpec fo the the ButtonModel is asking the borderWidth and borderColor from the model, which is all nice but should be looking like the standard PluggableButtonMorphs, which do have a border.
So, aligned now.
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13135
Slice in inbox: SLICE-Issue-13135-Inconsistent-look-of-buttons-across-tools-Border-no-border-PhilippeBack.1
Phil
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As long as it uses advertised Theme colors, this should be fine. Phil On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef@free.fr> wrote:
Hi guys
pay attention that igor redesigned a full new class for scrollbar because the old one sucks so that we can do clever scrolling in TextEditor.
Stef
On 26 Mar 2014, at 13:13, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
If you are at it, would you be interested in trying to provide a scrollbar without the arrow buttons, and with half the width? :)
Doru
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr>wrote:
Cool, you're giving me hope that one day I'll switch to the Pharo3 theme :)
Thierry
Le 26/03/2014 11:58, Philippe Back a écrit :
And while I was at it, I made the scrollbars nicer.
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13136
All of this made me notice that there are quite a number of little glitches all over. Especially when using larger fonts.
Phil
*From:*Philippe Back [mailto:phil@highoctane.be] *Sent:* mercredi 26 mars 2014 10:51 *To:* 'pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org' *Subject:* Fixing inconsistent buttons look in PharoUI
I've made a pass at fixing the buttons look (border in some places, no border in others). Spec-generated buttons are using the ButtonModel and MorphicButtonAdapter but the defaultSpec fo the the ButtonModel is asking the borderWidth and borderColor from the model, which is all nice but should be looking like the standard PluggableButtonMorphs, which do have a border.
So, aligned now.
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13135
Slice in inbox: SLICE-Issue-13135-Inconsistent-look-of-buttons- across-tools-Border-no-border-PhilippeBack.1
Phil
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Great! Where can I find this? Doru On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef@free.fr> wrote:
Hi guys
pay attention that igor redesigned a full new class for scrollbar because the old one sucks so that we can do clever scrolling in TextEditor.
Stef
On 26 Mar 2014, at 13:13, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
If you are at it, would you be interested in trying to provide a scrollbar without the arrow buttons, and with half the width? :)
Doru
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr>wrote:
Cool, you're giving me hope that one day I'll switch to the Pharo3 theme :)
Thierry
Le 26/03/2014 11:58, Philippe Back a écrit :
And while I was at it, I made the scrollbars nicer.
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13136
All of this made me notice that there are quite a number of little glitches all over. Especially when using larger fonts.
Phil
*From:*Philippe Back [mailto:phil@highoctane.be] *Sent:* mercredi 26 mars 2014 10:51 *To:* 'pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org' *Subject:* Fixing inconsistent buttons look in PharoUI
I've made a pass at fixing the buttons look (border in some places, no border in others). Spec-generated buttons are using the ButtonModel and MorphicButtonAdapter but the defaultSpec fo the the ButtonModel is asking the borderWidth and borderColor from the model, which is all nice but should be looking like the standard PluggableButtonMorphs, which do have a border.
So, aligned now.
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13135
Slice in inbox: SLICE-Issue-13135-Inconsistent-look-of-buttons- across-tools-Border-no-border-PhilippeBack.1
Phil
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Esteban A. Maringolo -
Goubier Thierry -
Hilaire Fernandes -
Pharo4Stef -
phil＠highoctane.be -
Philippe Back
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Tudor Girba