[Pharo-project] More news about GSoC!!!
Hi folks. We have been working hard with Janko and we built a website for the GSoC 2010 and for future editions! The URL is http://gsoc2010.esug.org/ In 4 days, is the deadline to submit ESUG as mentoring organization. For that purpose, there are several questions that we need to answer, as you can read here: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#o... This is the most important step. If we get selected, then we have project, and we will have to vote which projects to select and finally select students...but all that is ONLY if we are selected as mentoring organization. Last year Squeak wasn't so this year will be hard. We really appreciate any feedback you can give us so that we can achieve this goal. Basically we should demonstrate that we have a big community, with several interesting projects and with mentors and students that are willing to do it. Our first version of those answer are here: http://gsoc2010.esug.org/application.html Please, send feedback. The ideas page is necessary. For this, it would be cool to have several projects. With this we can show that the community is big. Of course, we cannot put projects that has no sense. But don't be shy to submit. We are ALL smalltalk dialects and even Newspeak. Right now there are 13 projects but I think there can be much more. In squeak 2007 there were like 20, and now we are all dialects together. Note that a project doesn't need to be cross dialect. You can propose a project that apply only to one dialect. I cannot take the time to write each proposal...so, if you have a project, right the title, description, technical details, benefits to the student and benefits to the community. Otherwise will be probably ignored. It would be cool to have all mentors already selected for the 12th so that we can demonstrate that we are really willing to do it and that we already have mentors for all projects. Even more, it would be fantastic if there can be mentors or co-mentors. As you can see in the ideas link, there are ideas that are not even complete. No text. Again...if someone want to do it, excellent. Otherwise, they will have to be removed. Now...a personal question...do you think we have enough students to take care about the projects? what is your opinion ? That's all for the moment...please, if you have questions, just ASK!!! 4 days..... Cheers Mariano
On the Application Page the answer to question 6 wrongly links to http://esug2010.esug.org/ideas.html instead of http://gsoc2010.esug.org/ideas.html Is there a way to vote for ideas? -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/More-news-about-GSoC-tp1585307p1585670.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Geert Claes <geert.wl.claes@gmail.com>wrote:
On the Application Page the answer to question 6 wrongly links to http://esug2010.esug.org/ideas.html instead of http://gsoc2010.esug.org/ideas.html
Thanks Geert, I have just fix it.
Is there a way to vote for ideas?
be a mentor ;) Seriously. This is a complicated subject that I am not sure what to do. In previous Squeak GSoC (2007 and 2008) only the mentors vote for the project. Suppose there were 20 projects, and Google gave Squeak 5 slots...then each mentor vote their most interesting 5 projects...The 5 projects with more votes, won. Letting only the mentors to vote have advantages and disadvantages. Advantages is that there is a lot of people in the community that only talk, only ask, only "I would like". But few do. We don't want to feed those who only talk. On the other hand, there is a lot of people who works a lot, but they are not mentors...so, it is a pity for them. But you cannot make that difference. So, as you can see, it is not easy. If we get selected then we should review this. Mariano
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Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Is there a way to vote for ideas?
be a mentor ;)
Seriously. This is a complicated subject that I am not sure what to do. In previous Squeak GSoC (2007 and 2008) only the mentors vote for the project. Suppose there were 20 projects, and Google gave Squeak 5 slots...then each mentor vote their most interesting 5 projects...The 5 projects with more votes, won.
Letting only the mentors to vote have advantages and disadvantages. Advantages is that there is a lot of people in the community that only talk, only ask, only "I would like". But few do. We don't want to feed those who only talk. On the other hand, there is a lot of people who works a lot, but they are not mentors...so, it is a pity for them. But you cannot make that difference.
So, as you can see, it is not easy.
If we get selected then we should review this.
Mariano
Fair enough, even though I would like to be more actively involved, I simply don't have the time at the moment ... voting could give all mentors an indication of the popularity of their ideas though couldn't it? -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/More-news-about-GSoC-tp1585307p1585737.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Geert Claes <geert.wl.claes@gmail.com>wrote:
Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Is there a way to vote for ideas?
be a mentor ;)
Seriously. This is a complicated subject that I am not sure what to do.
In
previous Squeak GSoC (2007 and 2008) only the mentors vote for the project. Suppose there were 20 projects, and Google gave Squeak 5 slots...then each mentor vote their most interesting 5 projects...The 5 projects with more votes, won.
Letting only the mentors to vote have advantages and disadvantages. Advantages is that there is a lot of people in the community that only talk, only ask, only "I would like". But few do. We don't want to feed those who only talk. On the other hand, there is a lot of people who works a lot, but they are not mentors...so, it is a pity for them. But you cannot make that difference.
So, as you can see, it is not easy.
If we get selected then we should review this.
Mariano
Fair enough, even though I would like to be more actively involved, I simply don't have the time at the moment ... voting could give all mentors an indication of the popularity of their ideas though couldn't it?
Maybe that's a good idea. Let all the people vote, but just to show mentors and co-mentors what the community wants. Then...is up to them to vote whatever they want... Thanks for the idea!!! I hope we have to discuss this topic (because it would mean we were selected...)
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