Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] Soil release v1
Am 06.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb Dirk Nel <dirkockertnel@gmail.com>:
I'll definitely check it out..! and for those who are not in the know... what inspired the name? :)
- I like the word - It has only four letters which qualifies as a class prefix - To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow on Norbert
On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 17:47, Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works> wrote:
That's really exciting news... appreciate you sharing it with the wider community (I know when you mentioned its existence a while back I went and watched the Esug recordings to get more info, and looked at some of the extensive test cases to get a feel on what it looked like - its neat).
Having multiple options for persisting data (from simple Fuel up to Soil and Glorp and Gemstone) is very useful.
Tim
On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, at 12:52 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
...we said at last ESUG that there will be a release soonish but as usual it doesn't go that fast.
But now we are very happy to announce that Soil has a first public release v1. So what is soil?
Soil is an object oriented database in pharo <http://pharo.org/>. It is transaction based having ACID transactions. It has binary search capabilities with SkipList and BTree+ indexes. It aims to be a simple yet powerful database making it easy to develop with, easy to debug with, easy to inspect, ...
More details at https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/Soil
This release is still considered early stage because
although in ApptiveGrid there are over 4000 instances of it and there are other users there isn't a wider range of use cases, yet. So it is not fully battle tested. This just as reminder when you start compaining I need somewhere to point my finger to and say "I told you!" ;) there are few things missing that you might expect like garbage collection, etc.
So but it is definetely usable and awaiting the brave ones of you to try.
Hopy you enjoy it!
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To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow on
Haha, Soil can also be thought of as "ground up stone" :) Dale On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 7:13â¯AM Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name> wrote:
Am 06.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb Dirk Nel <dirkockertnel@gmail.com>:
I'll definitely check it out..! and for those who are not in the know... what inspired the name? :)
- I like the word - It has only four letters which qualifies as a class prefix - To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow on
Norbert
On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 17:47, Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works> wrote:
That's really exciting news... appreciate you sharing it with the wider community (I know when you mentioned its existence a while back I went and watched the Esug recordings to get more info, and looked at some of the extensive test cases to get a feel on what it looked like - its neat).
Having multiple options for persisting data (from simple Fuel up to Soil and Glorp and Gemstone) is very useful.
Tim
On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, at 12:52 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
...we said at last ESUG that there will be a release soonish but as usual it doesn't go that fast.
But now we are very happy to announce that Soil has a first public release v1. So what is soil?
Soil is an object oriented database in pharo <http://pharo.org/>. It is transaction based having ACID transactions. It has binary search capabilities with SkipList and BTree+ indexes. It aims to be a simple yet powerful database making it easy to develop with, easy to debug with, easy to inspect, ...
More details at https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/Soil
This release is still considered early stage because
- although in ApptiveGrid there are over 4000 instances of it and there are other users there isn't a wider range of use cases, yet. So it is not fully battle tested. This just as reminder when you start compaining I need somewhere to point my finger to and say "I told you!" ;) - there are few things missing that you might expect like garbage collection, etc.
So but it is definetely usable and awaiting the brave ones of you to try.
Hopy you enjoy it!
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But ground stone is just sand. Thereâs more than just sand in soil. Soil should have the other ingredients needed for growth. :) On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 11:41 AM Dale Henrichs < dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow on
Haha, Soil can also be thought of as "ground up stone" :)
Dale
On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 7:13â¯AM Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name> wrote:
Am 06.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb Dirk Nel <dirkockertnel@gmail.com>:
I'll definitely check it out..! and for those who are not in the know... what inspired the name? :)
- I like the word - It has only four letters which qualifies as a class prefix - To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow on
Norbert
But ground stone is just sand. Thereâs more than just sand in soil. Soil should have the other ingredients needed for growth. :)
I was trying to make a reference to a GemStone *stone *:) Dale On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 1:27â¯PM Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name> wrote:
Am 08.05.2024 um 16:14 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name>:

Am 06.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb Dirk Nel <dirkockertnel@gmail.com>:
I'll definitely check it out..! and for those who are not in the know... what inspired the name? :)
- I like the word - It has only four letters which qualifies as a class prefix - To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow on
- people having fun with it
Mission accomplished
N.
Norbert
On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 17:47, Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works> wrote:
That's really exciting news... appreciate you sharing it with the wider community (I know when you mentioned its existence a while back I went and watched the Esug recordings to get more info, and looked at some of the extensive test cases to get a feel on what it looked like - its neat).
Having multiple options for persisting data (from simple Fuel up to Soil and Glorp and Gemstone) is very useful.
Tim
On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, at 12:52 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
...we said at last ESUG that there will be a release soonish but as usual it doesn't go that fast.
But now we are very happy to announce that Soil has a first public release v1. So what is soil?
Soil is an object oriented database in pharo <http://pharo.org/>. It is transaction based having ACID transactions. It has binary search capabilities with SkipList and BTree+ indexes. It aims to be a simple yet powerful database making it easy to develop with, easy to debug with, easy to inspect, ...
More details at https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/Soil
This release is still considered early stage because
- although in ApptiveGrid there are over 4000 instances of it and there are other users there isn't a wider range of use cases, yet. So it is not fully battle tested. This just as reminder when you start compaining I need somewhere to point my finger to and say "I told you!" ;) - there are few things missing that you might expect like garbage collection, etc.
So but it is definetely usable and awaiting the brave ones of you to try.
Hopy you enjoy it!
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I know. I was implying that Soil might be more than just bits of that stone. By being soil, it can be a fertile ground for ideas. On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 5:41 PM Dale Henrichs < dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
But ground stone is just sand. Thereâs more than just sand in soil. Soil
should have the other ingredients needed for growth. :)
I was trying to make a reference to a GemStone *stone *:)
Dale
On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 1:27â¯PM Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name> wrote:
Am 08.05.2024 um 16:14 schrieb Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name>:

Am 06.05.2024 um 16:47 schrieb Dirk Nel <dirkockertnel@gmail.com>:
I'll definitely check it out..! and for those who are not in the know... what inspired the name? :)
- I like the word - It has only four letters which qualifies as a class prefix - To me as a non-native speaker it means: ground layer you can build/grow on
- people having fun with it
Mission accomplished
N.
Norbert
On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 17:47, Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works> wrote:
That's really exciting news... appreciate you sharing it with the wider community (I know when you mentioned its existence a while back I went and watched the Esug recordings to get more info, and looked at some of the extensive test cases to get a feel on what it looked like - its neat).
Having multiple options for persisting data (from simple Fuel up to Soil and Glorp and Gemstone) is very useful.
Tim
On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, at 12:52 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
...we said at last ESUG that there will be a release soonish but as usual it doesn't go that fast.
But now we are very happy to announce that Soil has a first public release v1. So what is soil?
Soil is an object oriented database in pharo <http://pharo.org/>. It is transaction based having ACID transactions. It has binary search capabilities with SkipList and BTree+ indexes. It aims to be a simple yet powerful database making it easy to develop with, easy to debug with, easy to inspect, ...
More details at https://github.com/ApptiveGrid/Soil
This release is still considered early stage because
- although in ApptiveGrid there are over 4000 instances of it and there are other users there isn't a wider range of use cases, yet. So it is not fully battle tested. This just as reminder when you start compaining I need somewhere to point my finger to and say "I told you!" ;) - there are few things missing that you might expect like garbage collection, etc.
So but it is definetely usable and awaiting the brave ones of you to try.
Hopy you enjoy it!
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