[Pharo-project] 10095: questions
Dear List, I just tried Pharo 10095. It looks very clean. I like that. Why is there only a simple change browser. Why not the double one? I always found the simple one less useful. How can I update Pharo ? Before the 'load update' in the left-hand flap provided it. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Alexandre Bergel <Alexandre.Bergel@inria.fr> wrote:
Why is there only a simple change browser. Why not the double one? I always found the simple one less useful.
I think Adrian is aware of that and will replace the single one by the double one. In the meantime, you can still: DualChangeSorter open
How can I update Pharo ? Before the 'load update' in the left-hand flap provided it.
World menu->system->uptade -- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
Hi Alex, Stef already requested to add the double change browser instead of the simple one. I will change this (soon). The update function is in: World->System->Software update. Cheers, Adrian On Oct 21, 2008, at 13:02 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I just tried Pharo 10095. It looks very clean. I like that.
Why is there only a simple change browser. Why not the double one? I always found the simple one less useful.
How can I update Pharo ? Before the 'load update' in the left-hand flap provided it.
Excellent! Cheers, Alexandre On 21 Oct 2008, at 13:13, Damien Cassou wrote:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Alexandre Bergel <Alexandre.Bergel@inria.fr> wrote:
Why is there only a simple change browser. Why not the double one? I always found the simple one less useful.
I think Adrian is aware of that and will replace the single one by the double one. In the meantime, you can still: DualChangeSorter open
How can I update Pharo ? Before the 'load update' in the left-hand flap provided it.
World menu->system->uptade
-- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
Another thing I missed in recent versions is the possibility to open a changes-list on the recently logged changes. This is an absolutely crucial feature for an image based system, to be able to restore after a crash. Cheers, Lukas On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu> wrote:
Excellent!
Cheers, Alexandre
On 21 Oct 2008, at 13:13, Damien Cassou wrote:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Alexandre Bergel <Alexandre.Bergel@inria.fr> wrote:
Why is there only a simple change browser. Why not the double one? I always found the simple one less useful.
I think Adrian is aware of that and will replace the single one by the double one. In the meantime, you can still: DualChangeSorter open
How can I update Pharo ? Before the 'load update' in the left-hand flap provided it.
World menu->system->uptade
-- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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you have recover lost changes but I imagine that you can get back the one you miss. Stef On Oct 21, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
Another thing I missed in recent versions is the possibility to open a changes-list on the recently logged changes. This is an absolutely crucial feature for an image based system, to be able to restore after a crash.
Cheers, Lukas
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu> wrote:
Excellent!
Cheers, Alexandre
On 21 Oct 2008, at 13:13, Damien Cassou wrote:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Alexandre Bergel <Alexandre.Bergel@inria.fr> wrote:
Why is there only a simple change browser. Why not the double one? I always found the simple one less useful.
I think Adrian is aware of that and will replace the single one by the double one. In the meantime, you can still: DualChangeSorter open
How can I update Pharo ? Before the 'load update' in the left- hand flap provided it.
World menu->system->uptade
-- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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+1 on that... Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" <renggli@gmail.com> To: "Pharo Development" <pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 10095: questions Another thing I missed in recent versions is the possibility to open a changes-list on the recently logged changes. This is an absolutely crucial feature for an image based system, to be able to restore after a crash. Cheers, Lukas On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu> wrote:
Excellent!
Cheers, Alexandre
On 21 Oct 2008, at 13:13, Damien Cassou wrote:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Alexandre Bergel <Alexandre.Bergel@inria.fr> wrote:
Why is there only a simple change browser. Why not the double one? I always found the simple one less useful.
I think Adrian is aware of that and will replace the single one by the double one. In the meantime, you can still: DualChangeSorter open
How can I update Pharo ? Before the 'load update' in the left-hand flap provided it.
World menu->system->uptade
-- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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The "recently logged changes" menu item has been reintroduced in the world menu refactoring I did in a recent change (because as Lukas said its a crucial feature). Please update, we currently are at version 10101, so 10095 is already old ;) Also notice that the menu was redesigned from ground up. So the organization is a bit different than the one in the previous menu which may be strange for a moment for those of us that have memorized the previous organization, but for newcomers it will be much easier to understand. Also, the menu is optimized to make often used tools accessible with only one click. Now, the previous item "recently logged changes" is in World->Tools-
Recover lost changes...
Cheers, Adrian On Oct 21, 2008, at 16:21 , Gary Chambers wrote:
+1 on that...
Gary.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" <renggli@gmail.com> To: "Pharo Development" <pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 10095: questions
Another thing I missed in recent versions is the possibility to open a changes-list on the recently logged changes. This is an absolutely crucial feature for an image based system, to be able to restore after a crash.
Cheers, Lukas
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu> wrote:
Excellent!
Cheers, Alexandre
On 21 Oct 2008, at 13:13, Damien Cassou wrote:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Alexandre Bergel <Alexandre.Bergel@inria.fr> wrote:
Why is there only a simple change browser. Why not the double one? I always found the simple one less useful.
I think Adrian is aware of that and will replace the single one by the double one. In the meantime, you can still: DualChangeSorter open
How can I update Pharo ? Before the 'load update' in the left- hand flap provided it.
World menu->system->uptade
-- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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The "recently logged changes" menu item has been reintroduced in the world menu refactoring I did in a recent change (because as Lukas said its a crucial feature). Please update, we currently are at version 10101, so 10095 is already old ;)
I was on an older versions. Thanks for adding it. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi@netstyle.ch> wrote:
Please update, we currently are at version 10101, so 10095 is already old ;)
This is partly my fault because the latest pharo-dev is already 4 days old. I apologize and am generating a new image right now based on 10101. Sorry -- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
Hi Damien, good job with the dev image! We should really think/discuss about the next one-click be based on the dev image (the non-one-click then will be the "core" image for people building deployment images, for example). Marcus On 21.10.2008, at 19:45, Damien Cassou wrote:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi@netstyle.ch> wrote:
Please update, we currently are at version 10101, so 10095 is already old ;)
This is partly my fault because the latest pharo-dev is already 4 days old. I apologize and am generating a new image right now based on 10101.
Sorry
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Hi Damien, There's no reason to apologize. You do a great job. Can't people update the pharo-dev through the update stream? I think that should work in most cases. Adrian On Oct 21, 2008, at 19:45 , Damien Cassou wrote:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi@netstyle.ch> wrote:
Please update, we currently are at version 10101, so 10095 is already old ;)
This is partly my fault because the latest pharo-dev is already 4 days old. I apologize and am generating a new image right now based on 10101.
Sorry
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On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi@netstyle.ch> wrote:
Can't people update the pharo-dev through the update stream? I think that should work in most cases.
I guess they can but I personnaly don't because my images have a very limited life span. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
Yo know this is really funny that I hear myself pronocing open... when I want to get mc browser and for a while I was looking for the open.... Stef On Oct 21, 2008, at 6:06 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
The "recently logged changes" menu item has been reintroduced in the world menu refactoring I did in a recent change (because as Lukas said its a crucial feature). Please update, we currently are at version 10101, so 10095 is already old ;)
Also notice that the menu was redesigned from ground up. So the organization is a bit different than the one in the previous menu which may be strange for a moment for those of us that have memorized the previous organization, but for newcomers it will be much easier to understand. Also, the menu is optimized to make often used tools accessible with only one click.
Now, the previous item "recently logged changes" is in World->Tools-
Recover lost changes...
Cheers, Adrian
On Oct 21, 2008, at 16:21 , Gary Chambers wrote:
+1 on that...
Gary.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" <renggli@gmail.com> To: "Pharo Development" <pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 10095: questions
Another thing I missed in recent versions is the possibility to open a changes-list on the recently logged changes. This is an absolutely crucial feature for an image based system, to be able to restore after a crash.
Cheers, Lukas
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu
wrote: Excellent!
Cheers, Alexandre
On 21 Oct 2008, at 13:13, Damien Cassou wrote:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Alexandre Bergel <Alexandre.Bergel@inria.fr> wrote:
Why is there only a simple change browser. Why not the double one? I always found the simple one less useful.
I think Adrian is aware of that and will replace the single one by the double one. In the meantime, you can still: DualChangeSorter open
How can I update Pharo ? Before the 'load update' in the left- hand flap provided it.
World menu->system->uptade
-- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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