[Pharo-project] Wow... we've closed a lot of issues
I was just doing some housecleaning, deleting some old bug fix images and I was struck by how many important things we've accomplished. I'm still dumbfounded that a community of our size has resolved 1548 issues since 1.4. Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Wow-we-ve-closed-a-lot-of-issues-tp4669901.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
You must also ask how many issues you have created since 1.4, because I doubt there are 1500 issues applying to 1.4. It's not a critic. It simply reflect the fact that it is necessary to temporarily break things in order to change underlying system (events, text, browser etc...) Especially when the system has evolved up to a point where it is fragile and hardly maintainable. Nicolas 2013/2/14 Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com>:
I was just doing some housecleaning, deleting some old bug fix images and I was struck by how many important things we've accomplished. I'm still dumbfounded that a community of our size has resolved 1548 issues since 1.4.
Cheers, Sean
-- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Wow-we-ve-closed-a-lot-of-issues-tp4669901.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
yeah we opened a lot. IMO, as you say, that's a good thing... you need to break things to create new things but there were at least 500 issues opened since the beginning of times that we have closed in this release. so, 500 "historical issues"plus all the issues we created (most of them non bugs,just modifications, enhancements, additions) not a bad number, I think :) cheers, Esteban On Feb 14, 2013, at 5:55 PM, Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com> wrote:
You must also ask how many issues you have created since 1.4, because I doubt there are 1500 issues applying to 1.4. It's not a critic. It simply reflect the fact that it is necessary to temporarily break things in order to change underlying system (events, text, browser etc...) Especially when the system has evolved up to a point where it is fragile and hardly maintainable.
Nicolas
2013/2/14 Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com>:
I was just doing some housecleaning, deleting some old bug fix images and I was struck by how many important things we've accomplished. I'm still dumbfounded that a community of our size has resolved 1548 issues since 1.4.
Cheers, Sean
-- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Wow-we-ve-closed-a-lot-of-issues-tp4669901.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Though i bet some of the 500 were closed for lack of activity rather than for resolution ;) It's not a bad thing, letting them rot has no much value and prevent progress (it's stupid to repeatedly loose time in analyzing issues that nobody cares of). After all, what counts is that Pharo has enough task forces to throw into making a better system (simpler, less convoluted, more powerful etc...). This is a nice thing and this is what the number of closed issues reflects. Bravo Nicolas 2013/2/14 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:
yeah we opened a lot. IMO, as you say, that's a good thing... you need to break things to create new things but there were at least 500 issues opened since the beginning of times that we have closed in this release.
so, 500 "historical issues"plus all the issues we created (most of them non bugs,just modifications, enhancements, additions) not a bad number, I think :)
cheers, Esteban
On Feb 14, 2013, at 5:55 PM, Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com> wrote:
You must also ask how many issues you have created since 1.4, because I doubt there are 1500 issues applying to 1.4. It's not a critic. It simply reflect the fact that it is necessary to temporarily break things in order to change underlying system (events, text, browser etc...) Especially when the system has evolved up to a point where it is fragile and hardly maintainable.
Nicolas
2013/2/14 Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com>:
I was just doing some housecleaning, deleting some old bug fix images and I was struck by how many important things we've accomplished. I'm still dumbfounded that a community of our size has resolved 1548 issues since 1.4.
Cheers, Sean
-- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Wow-we-ve-closed-a-lot-of-issues-tp4669901.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Nicolas Cellier wrote
Though i bet some of the 500 were closed for lack of activity rather than for resolution ;)
While I agree that closing to prevent rot would be okay too, 1275 were definitely integrated (and tagged as such). Of the 134 that are marked closed, if you go through those, some were integrated too (e.g. fix included in a slice for another issue). So at least 82% were actually fixed, which continues to amaze me, even as I rehash it now :) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Wow-we-ve-closed-a-lot-of-issues-tp4669901p4669963.htm... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On 14 February 2013 20:45, Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com> wrote:
Though i bet some of the 500 were closed for lack of activity rather than for resolution ;) It's not a bad thing, letting them rot has no much value and prevent progress (it's stupid to repeatedly loose time in analyzing issues that nobody cares of).
After all, what counts is that Pharo has enough task forces to throw into making a better system (simpler, less convoluted, more powerful etc...). This is a nice thing and this is what the number of closed issues reflects.
Bravo
Yes, but even closing rot issue takes time.. because it is human work. And some of them even involving multiple people (mail exchange to make decision to close it)..
Nicolas
2013/2/14 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:
yeah we opened a lot. IMO, as you say, that's a good thing... you need to break things to create new things but there were at least 500 issues opened since the beginning of times that we have closed in this release.
so, 500 "historical issues"plus all the issues we created (most of them non bugs,just modifications, enhancements, additions) not a bad number, I think :)
cheers, Esteban
On Feb 14, 2013, at 5:55 PM, Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com> wrote:
You must also ask how many issues you have created since 1.4, because I doubt there are 1500 issues applying to 1.4. It's not a critic. It simply reflect the fact that it is necessary to temporarily break things in order to change underlying system (events, text, browser etc...) Especially when the system has evolved up to a point where it is fragile and hardly maintainable.
Nicolas
2013/2/14 Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com>:
I was just doing some housecleaning, deleting some old bug fix images and I was struck by how many important things we've accomplished. I'm still dumbfounded that a community of our size has resolved 1548 issues since 1.4.
Cheers, Sean
-- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Wow-we-ve-closed-a-lot-of-issues-tp4669901.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.
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