On Mar 4, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Dimitry Golubovsky wrote:

Well the original discussion on the Squeak ML declined into the OLPC issues (back to Intel that is ;)

Let's continue here.

Thanks for the hints, I looked into these projects, but:

Potato Squeak (JSqueak) doesn't seem alive. I tried to run it on my PC with some recent Java (don't remember which version, same as I use to compile Android stuff). Very slow, crashed all the time. Plus image version is 2.x ...

PySqueak seems like the repo is gone. Also, it's old too.

Anyway, wrt translation of Squeak/Pharo VM to Java. How much labor would it take to change VMMaker so it generates Java code instead of C? Given some similarity between the two languages syntax?

I need to move on with the native port because my endpoint is in a concrete application rather than the port itself. But would anyone be interested in adjusting VMMaker?

This is *far* more complicated then that. An interpreter for Smalltalk written in Java would be *very* slow. So one would need to do a "JIT" that translates smalltalk to java... difficult, and a huge project in itself. The worst aspect: You need to be *the* expert on Java VM internals to do that. I am doing Pharo because this is exactly where I do not want to go. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.