[Pharo-project] So your working on a cool project and Pharo crashes
Is there any way to do a recovery besides the Recover Lost Changes option that doesn't seem to work? It seems the change log that was left behind has some promising things in it. This is just such a bummer. Lot of good work lost.
Hi Nathan,
Is there any way to do a recovery besides the Recover Lost Changes option that doesn't seem to work?
What do you mean by "doesn't seem to work"? I have always been happy with it. Does it raise an error?
It seems the change log that was left behind has some promising things in it.
You can directly inspect the .changes file next to your image. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
actually, to tell the truth I figured out how to get most of my methods back. But not the right versions. I wonder if I can back out the changes and try to select the ones that I do need, but there are soo many. It does throw an error when I select multiple changesets. When I use the "remove do it" that helps the most. its just such a mess right now On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu>wrote:
Hi Nathan,
Is there any way to do a recovery besides the Recover Lost Changes option that doesn't seem to work?
What do you mean by "doesn't seem to work"? I have always been happy with it. Does it raise an error?
It seems the change log that was left behind has some promising things in it.
You can directly inspect the .changes file next to your image.
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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I also had the very same feeling the first times I used the "recover lost changes" option. Now that I gained experience, I live comfortably with it. Cheers, Alexandre On 18 Feb 2010, at 02:37, Nathan Tuttle wrote:
actually, to tell the truth I figured out how to get most of my methods back. But not the right versions. I wonder if I can back out the changes and try to select the ones that I do need, but there are soo many.
It does throw an error when I select multiple changesets. When I use the "remove do it" that helps the most.
its just such a mess right now
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu
wrote: Hi Nathan,
Is there any way to do a recovery besides the Recover Lost Changes option that doesn't seem to work?
What do you mean by "doesn't seem to work"? I have always been happy with it. Does it raise an error?
It seems the change log that was left behind has some promising things in it.
You can directly inspect the .changes file next to your image.
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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One thing. It looks like there is a changes file that has more up to date information. How do I pull this in? On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu>wrote:
I also had the very same feeling the first times I used the "recover lost changes" option. Now that I gained experience, I live comfortably with it.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 18 Feb 2010, at 02:37, Nathan Tuttle wrote:
actually, to tell the truth I figured out how to get most of my methods back. But not the right versions. I wonder if I can back out the changes and try to select the ones that I do need, but there are soo many.
It does throw an error when I select multiple changesets. When I use the "remove do it" that helps the most.
its just such a mess right now
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu
wrote: Hi Nathan,
Is there any way to do a recovery besides the Recover Lost Changes option that doesn't seem to work?
What do you mean by "doesn't seem to work"? I have always been happy with it. Does it raise an error?
It seems the change log that was left behind has some promising things in it.
You can directly inspect the .changes file next to your image.
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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The change file needs to have the same name than the image to have it listed when you do a recover lost changes. Else, you can simply edit the .changes using any (robust) text editor. Cut and paste what you feel relevant into a new file that you name yourchanges.cs You then have created a changeset file, which can be easily loaded with a drag and drop from your OS desktop to the Pharo image. Alternatively, you can use the file loader. Hope it helps. Cheers, Alexandre On 18 Feb 2010, at 03:13, Nathan Tuttle wrote:
One thing. It looks like there is a changes file that has more up to date information. How do I pull this in?
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu
wrote: I also had the very same feeling the first times I used the "recover lost changes" option. Now that I gained experience, I live comfortably with it.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 18 Feb 2010, at 02:37, Nathan Tuttle wrote:
actually, to tell the truth I figured out how to get most of my methods back. But not the right versions. I wonder if I can back out the changes and try to select the ones that I do need, but there are soo many.
It does throw an error when I select multiple changesets. When I use the "remove do it" that helps the most.
its just such a mess right now
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu
wrote: Hi Nathan,
Is there any way to do a recovery besides the Recover Lost Changes option that doesn't seem to work?
What do you mean by "doesn't seem to work"? I have always been happy with it. Does it raise an error?
It seems the change log that was left behind has some promising things in it.
You can directly inspect the .changes file next to your image.
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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I imagine that you can also recoever from another image. At least in VW we could do that. Nathan the first thing to do is to copy your image/changes because each time to receover you add new info to you changes. So if you screw it up now. Go back to before the first time you crashed because all your changes are still there. This is juts a matter of identifying them. Pay attention that we do not have classDefinition as in Cuis and VW so doit for class definition should be replayed too. finally did you save your code with monticello? Because this is the best way, publish often. Stef On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:25 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
The change file needs to have the same name than the image to have it listed when you do a recover lost changes. Else, you can simply edit the .changes using any (robust) text editor. Cut and paste what you feel relevant into a new file that you name yourchanges.cs You then have created a changeset file, which can be easily loaded with a drag and drop from your OS desktop to the Pharo image. Alternatively, you can use the file loader.
Hope it helps.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 18 Feb 2010, at 03:13, Nathan Tuttle wrote:
One thing. It looks like there is a changes file that has more up to date information. How do I pull this in?
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu
wrote: I also had the very same feeling the first times I used the "recover lost changes" option. Now that I gained experience, I live comfortably with it.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 18 Feb 2010, at 02:37, Nathan Tuttle wrote:
actually, to tell the truth I figured out how to get most of my methods back. But not the right versions. I wonder if I can back out the changes and try to select the ones that I do need, but there are soo many.
It does throw an error when I select multiple changesets. When I use the "remove do it" that helps the most.
its just such a mess right now
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu
wrote: Hi Nathan,
Is there any way to do a recovery besides the Recover Lost Changes option that doesn't seem to work?
What do you mean by "doesn't seem to work"? I have always been happy with it. Does it raise an error?
It seems the change log that was left behind has some promising things in it.
You can directly inspect the .changes file next to your image.
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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We have a few simple enhancements for ChangeList/ChangeRecord that identifies class defs, method removals etc. That way one can "remove doits" while keeping class definitions etc. I can post a changeset if anyone is interested. Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> To: <Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] So your working on a cool project and Pharocrashes
I imagine that you can also recoever from another image. At least in VW we could do that. Nathan the first thing to do is to copy your image/changes because each time to receover you add new info to you changes.
So if you screw it up now. Go back to before the first time you crashed because all your changes are still there. This is juts a matter of identifying them. Pay attention that we do not have classDefinition as in Cuis and VW so doit for class definition should be replayed too.
finally did you save your code with monticello? Because this is the best way, publish often.
Stef
On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:25 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
The change file needs to have the same name than the image to have it listed when you do a recover lost changes. Else, you can simply edit the .changes using any (robust) text editor. Cut and paste what you feel relevant into a new file that you name yourchanges.cs You then have created a changeset file, which can be easily loaded with a drag and drop from your OS desktop to the Pharo image. Alternatively, you can use the file loader.
Hope it helps.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 18 Feb 2010, at 03:13, Nathan Tuttle wrote:
One thing. It looks like there is a changes file that has more up to date information. How do I pull this in?
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu
wrote: I also had the very same feeling the first times I used the "recover lost changes" option. Now that I gained experience, I live comfortably with it.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 18 Feb 2010, at 02:37, Nathan Tuttle wrote:
actually, to tell the truth I figured out how to get most of my methods back. But not the right versions. I wonder if I can back out the changes and try to select the ones that I do need, but there are soo many.
It does throw an error when I select multiple changesets. When I use the "remove do it" that helps the most.
its just such a mess right now
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu
wrote: Hi Nathan,
Is there any way to do a recovery besides the Recover Lost Changes option that doesn't seem to work?
What do you mean by "doesn't seem to work"? I have always been happy with it. Does it raise an error?
It seems the change log that was left behind has some promising things in it.
You can directly inspect the .changes file next to your image.
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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yes please! Cuis has class definition change reification, and i found it very useful to be able to do "remove DoIts" , when programming in CUIS. On Feb 18, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Gary Chambers wrote:
We have a few simple enhancements for ChangeList/ChangeRecord that identifies class defs, method removals etc. That way one can "remove doits" while keeping class definitions etc.
I can post a changeset if anyone is interested.
Regards, Gary
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> To: <Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] So your working on a cool project and Pharocrashes
I imagine that you can also recoever from another image. At least in VW we could do that. Nathan the first thing to do is to copy your image/changes because each time to receover you add new info to you changes.
So if you screw it up now. Go back to before the first time you crashed because all your changes are still there. This is juts a matter of identifying them. Pay attention that we do not have classDefinition as in Cuis and VW so doit for class definition should be replayed too.
finally did you save your code with monticello? Because this is the best way, publish often.
Stef
On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:25 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
The change file needs to have the same name than the image to have it listed when you do a recover lost changes. Else, you can simply edit the .changes using any (robust) text editor. Cut and paste what you feel relevant into a new file that you name yourchanges.cs You then have created a changeset file, which can be easily loaded with a drag and drop from your OS desktop to the Pharo image. Alternatively, you can use the file loader.
Hope it helps.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 18 Feb 2010, at 03:13, Nathan Tuttle wrote:
One thing. It looks like there is a changes file that has more up to date information. How do I pull this in?
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu
wrote: I also had the very same feeling the first times I used the "recover lost changes" option. Now that I gained experience, I live comfortably with it.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 18 Feb 2010, at 02:37, Nathan Tuttle wrote:
actually, to tell the truth I figured out how to get most of my methods back. But not the right versions. I wonder if I can back out the changes and try to select the ones that I do need, but there are soo many.
It does throw an error when I select multiple changesets. When I use the "remove do it" that helps the most.
its just such a mess right now
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu
wrote: Hi Nathan,
Is there any way to do a recovery besides the Recover Lost Changes option that doesn't seem to work?
What do you mean by "doesn't seem to work"? I have always been happy with it. Does it raise an error?
It seems the change log that was left behind has some promising things in it.
You can directly inspect the .changes file next to your image.
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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Attached (after Pharofication (was for Squeak 3.9))... Also has an menu option to remove items not matching an author, not sure how useful that is in pratice. Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando olivero" <oliverof@lu.unisi.ch> To: <Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] So your working on a cool project andPharocrashes yes please! Cuis has class definition change reification, and i found it very useful to be able to do "remove DoIts" , when programming in CUIS. On Feb 18, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Gary Chambers wrote:
We have a few simple enhancements for ChangeList/ChangeRecord that identifies class defs, method removals etc. That way one can "remove doits" while keeping class definitions etc.
I can post a changeset if anyone is interested.
Regards, Gary
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> To: <Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] So your working on a cool project and Pharocrashes
I imagine that you can also recoever from another image. At least in VW we could do that. Nathan the first thing to do is to copy your image/changes because each time to receover you add new info to you changes.
So if you screw it up now. Go back to before the first time you crashed because all your changes are still there. This is juts a matter of identifying them. Pay attention that we do not have classDefinition as in Cuis and VW so doit for class definition should be replayed too.
finally did you save your code with monticello? Because this is the best way, publish often.
Stef
On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:25 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
The change file needs to have the same name than the image to have it listed when you do a recover lost changes. Else, you can simply edit the .changes using any (robust) text editor. Cut and paste what you feel relevant into a new file that you name yourchanges.cs You then have created a changeset file, which can be easily loaded with a drag and drop from your OS desktop to the Pharo image. Alternatively, you can use the file loader.
Hope it helps.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 18 Feb 2010, at 03:13, Nathan Tuttle wrote:
One thing. It looks like there is a changes file that has more up to date information. How do I pull this in?
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu
wrote: I also had the very same feeling the first times I used the "recover lost changes" option. Now that I gained experience, I live comfortably with it.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 18 Feb 2010, at 02:37, Nathan Tuttle wrote:
actually, to tell the truth I figured out how to get most of my methods back. But not the right versions. I wonder if I can back out the changes and try to select the ones that I do need, but there are soo many.
It does throw an error when I select multiple changesets. When I use the "remove do it" that helps the most.
its just such a mess right now
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu
wrote: Hi Nathan,
Is there any way to do a recovery besides the Recover Lost Changes option that doesn't seem to work?
What do you mean by "doesn't seem to work"? I have always been happy with it. Does it raise an error?
It seems the change log that was left behind has some promising things in it.
You can directly inspect the .changes file next to your image.
Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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Please do Ideally I would like to have the classdefinition kind of idea similar to CUIS and VW. But it requires some coding so that we can do it well. Stef On Feb 18, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Gary Chambers wrote:
We have a few simple enhancements for ChangeList/ChangeRecord that identifies class defs, method removals etc. That way one can "remove doits" while keeping class definitions etc.
I can post a changeset if anyone is interested.
Regards, Gary
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> To: <Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] So your working on a cool project and Pharocrashes
I imagine that you can also recoever from another image. At least in VW we could do that. Nathan the first thing to do is to copy your image/changes because each time to receover you add new info to you changes.
So if you screw it up now. Go back to before the first time you crashed because all your changes are still there. This is juts a matter of identifying them. Pay attention that we do not have classDefinition as in Cuis and VW so doit for class definition should be replayed too.
finally did you save your code with monticello? Because this is the best way, publish often.
Stef
On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:25 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
The change file needs to have the same name than the image to have it listed when you do a recover lost changes. Else, you can simply edit the .changes using any (robust) text editor. Cut and paste what you feel relevant into a new file that you name yourchanges.cs You then have created a changeset file, which can be easily loaded with a drag and drop from your OS desktop to the Pharo image. Alternatively, you can use the file loader.
Hope it helps.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 18 Feb 2010, at 03:13, Nathan Tuttle wrote:
One thing. It looks like there is a changes file that has more up to date information. How do I pull this in?
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu
wrote: I also had the very same feeling the first times I used the "recover lost changes" option. Now that I gained experience, I live comfortably with it.
Cheers, Alexandre
On 18 Feb 2010, at 02:37, Nathan Tuttle wrote:
actually, to tell the truth I figured out how to get most of my methods back. But not the right versions. I wonder if I can back out the changes and try to select the ones that I do need, but there are soo many.
It does throw an error when I select multiple changesets. When I use the "remove do it" that helps the most.
its just such a mess right now
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre@bergel.eu
wrote: Hi Nathan,
Is there any way to do a recovery besides the Recover Lost Changes option that doesn't seem to work?
What do you mean by "doesn't seem to work"? I have always been happy with it. Does it raise an error?
It seems the change log that was left behind has some promising things in it.
You can directly inspect the .changes file next to your image.
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On 2/17/2010 11:25 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
The change file needs to have the same name than the image to have it listed when you do a recover lost changes.
Not really, you can drag and drop any changes file onto any image and it'll popup the same changes editor that recover lost changes does. If you're after the latest changes just remove older versions, then remove up to date versions, then remove any unnecessary do it's and what's left will be the diffs, review and file them in.
Else, you can simply edit the .changes using any (robust) text editor. Cut and paste what you feel relevant into a new file that you name yourchanges.cs
Unnecessary because of the above. -- Ramon Leon http://onsmalltalk.com
We should document somewhere all the techniques and tricks to recover lost data. It would be cool if someone can write that. I don't have the knowledge :( Cheers Mariano On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Ramon Leon <ramon.leon@allresnet.com>wrote:
On 2/17/2010 11:25 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
The change file needs to have the same name than the image to have it listed when you do a recover lost changes.
Not really, you can drag and drop any changes file onto any image and it'll popup the same changes editor that recover lost changes does. If you're after the latest changes just remove older versions, then remove up to date versions, then remove any unnecessary do it's and what's left will be the diffs, review and file them in.
Else, you can simply edit the .changes using any (robust) text editor. Cut and paste what you feel relevant into a new file that you name yourchanges.cs
Unnecessary because of the above.
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I was not aware of this. Excellent! Alexandre On 19 Feb 2010, at 01:47, Ramon Leon wrote:
On 2/17/2010 11:25 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
The change file needs to have the same name than the image to have it listed when you do a recover lost changes.
Not really, you can drag and drop any changes file onto any image and it'll popup the same changes editor that recover lost changes does. If you're after the latest changes just remove older versions, then remove up to date versions, then remove any unnecessary do it's and what's left will be the diffs, review and file them in.
Else, you can simply edit the .changes using any (robust) text editor. Cut and paste what you feel relevant into a new file that you name yourchanges.cs
Unnecessary because of the above.
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