Hi, anyone able to tell something about the states of the following projects? I'm just curious - if they are dead (if so why) - if someone is working/plans to work on them actively - if something is just planned to be replaced in the future with better projects Lots of power was invested to start/run projects in Pharo and I want to understand if it will be possible to have them out of the box: 1. SCRIPTING There was/is CORAL (http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/coral/) - a scripting environment for Pharo. No activity on the list since Nov. 2013. What is the state of the project? Was it just research or how can we use todays Pharo 3.0/Pharo 4.0 for scripting. Are there other/new plans? 2. UI BUILDER TOOL There was http://www.squeaksource.com/UIBuilder.html marked as "Failed attempt of develop a UI builder for Pharo-Smalltalk." Also the "UI Painter" project developed as part of GSOC 2013 for Pharo based on Spec. Not updated anymore. http://uipainter-gsoc.over-blog.com with no activity since 9/2013. 3. NAMESPACES Squeak got environments, if I remember correctly there was even code for Pharo available. Do we plan to have them as well or is there the idea of a better namespace implementation. 4. TxText Providing a better text editor for Pharo. What is the state of this? Thanks T.
Hi, as far as I know: On 04 Jul 2014, at 15:25, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de> wrote:
Hi,
anyone able to tell something about the states of the following projects?
I'm just curious - if they are dead (if so why) - if someone is working/plans to work on them actively - if something is just planned to be replaced in the future with better projects
Lots of power was invested to start/run projects in Pharo and I want to understand if it will be possible to have them out of the box:
1. SCRIPTING
There was/is CORAL (http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/coral/) - a scripting environment for Pharo. No activity on the list since Nov. 2013.
unfinished. last year we made a lot of work on allowing pharo to be executed by command line (necessary for scripting). now we need to release coral. AFAIK, no much stuff was needed, but Damien will be able to provide better answers.
What is the state of the project? Was it just research or how can we use todays Pharo 3.0/Pharo 4.0 for scripting. Are there other/new plans?
2. UI BUILDER TOOL
There was http://www.squeaksource.com/UIBuilder.html marked as "Failed attempt of develop a UI builder for Pharo-Smalltalk.â
dead
Also the "UI Painter" project developed as part of GSOC 2013 for Pharo based on Spec. Not updated anymore. http://uipainter-gsoc.over-blog.com with no activity since 9/2013.
3. NAMESPACES
Squeak got environments, if I remember correctly there was even code for Pharo available. Do we plan to have them as well or is there the idea of a better namespace implementation.
dead we want namespaces (bah, I want them). But no existing implementation has been satisfactory yet. now, I know Camille is working a bit in that direction, but no idea when/if he will be able to provide code.
4. TxText
Providing a better text editor for Pharo. What is the state of this?
humm⦠no idea. Esteban
Thanks T.
On 4/7/14 15:25, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
Hi,
anyone able to tell something about the states of the following projects?
I'm just curious - if they are dead (if so why) - if someone is working/plans to work on them actively - if something is just planned to be replaced in the future with better projects
Lots of power was invested to start/run projects in Pharo and I want to understand if it will be possible to have them out of the box:
1. SCRIPTING
There was/is CORAL (http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/coral/) - a scripting environment for Pharo. No activity on the list since Nov. 2013.
What is the state of the project? Was it just research or how can we use todays Pharo 3.0/Pharo 4.0 for scripting. Are there other/new plans?
We want to work on it with damien Cassou but we have a work on python to get money :(. So guess what we are doing ...
2. UI BUILDER TOOL
There was http://www.squeaksource.com/UIBuilder.html marked as "Failed attempt of develop a UI builder for Pharo-Smalltalk."
Also the "UI Painter" project developed as part of GSOC 2013 for Pharo based on Spec. Not updated anymore. http://uipainter-gsoc.over-blog.com with no activity since 9/2013.
3. NAMESPACES
Squeak got environments, if I remember correctly there was even code for Pharo available.
Where is the code?
Do we plan to have them as well or is there the idea of a better namespace implementation. We are working with camille on modules. Right now we will NOT INTEGRATE namespace at the language level. I will veto that because - do we have the ressources to fix the tools and all the system
We want modules with import now the question is how and camille is working on that especially we want class extensions that are only visible by the modules that use the modules doing an extension. => more locality.
4. TxText
Providing a better text editor for Pharo. What is the state of this?
Igor is currently working on VirtualCPU. The status is that I ABSOLUTELY WANT a working version. Now you can give feedack Igor wrote a new morph and integrated it with Spec.
Thanks T.
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