[Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX
Hello all, Sorry for the OT post, but some of you have BibTeX interests and even code(!!!), so I thought it would smart to ask whether any of you have Pharo code to read the RIS format? I am getting sufficient pressure away from LaTeX, that I am looking at Bibus and OpenOffice. I have a lot of data in .bib to try to import into Bibus, which appears to be buggy with respect to to, but there is evidence it correctly understand RIS. Any help appreciated. Thanks! Bil
did you check citezen? On May 16, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Hello all,
Sorry for the OT post, but some of you have BibTeX interests and even code(!!!), so I thought it would smart to ask whether any of you have Pharo code to read the RIS format?
I am getting sufficient pressure away from LaTeX, that I am looking at Bibus and OpenOffice. I have a lot of data in .bib to try to import into Bibus, which appears to be buggy with respect to to, but there is evidence it correctly understand RIS.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks!
Bil
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Stef, I knew somebody here had something but forgot the name. Thanks for the reminder; I'll give it a look. I found a pdf on it which looks helpful. Are you going to tell me that this would allow Pharo to generate a complete bibliography suitable for pasting into a document? What about the citations along the way? That's proably where LaTeX comes in, but I am getting pressured away from it for various documents. LaTeX is a mixed bag. It's great for mathematics, the output is BEAUTIFUL, and I find the flat text view of prose helpful. Spell checking is a plus for the competition. However, I find myself getting pushback from peers who want to use document revisions, making the (gulp) word the center of attention. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 2:11 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX did you check citezen? On May 16, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Hello all,
Sorry for the OT post, but some of you have BibTeX interests and even code(!!!), so I thought it would smart to ask whether any of you have Pharo code to read the RIS format?
I am getting sufficient pressure away from LaTeX, that I am looking at Bibus and OpenOffice. I have a lot of data in .bib to try to import into Bibus, which appears to be buggy with respect to to, but there is evidence it correctly understand RIS.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks!
Bil
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On May 16, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Stef,
I knew somebody here had something but forgot the name. Thanks for the reminder; I'll give it a look.
I found a pdf on it which looks helpful. Are you going to tell me that this would allow Pharo to generate a complete bibliography suitable for pasting into a document? What about the citations along the way? That's proably where LaTeX comes in, but I am getting pressured away from it for various documents.
Citezen parses bib files and after you have a visitor to produce what you want.
LaTeX is a mixed bag. It's great for mathematics, the output is BEAUTIFUL, and I find the flat text view of prose helpful. Spell checking is a plus for the competition. However, I find myself getting pushback from peers who want to use document revisions, making the (gulp) word the center of attention.
their problems....
Bill
-----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr ] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 2:11 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX
did you check citezen?
On May 16, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Hello all,
Sorry for the OT post, but some of you have BibTeX interests and even code(!!!), so I thought it would smart to ask whether any of you have Pharo code to read the RIS format?
I am getting sufficient pressure away from LaTeX, that I am looking at Bibus and OpenOffice. I have a lot of data in .bib to try to import into Bibus, which appears to be buggy with respect to to, but there is evidence it correctly understand RIS.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks!
Bil
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Stef, Yes and no. There are times when I would want to use nothing other than LaTeX, and times when I need to get along with non-technical types (who will help build my career as long as I do not make it hard for them to do so) - sonds more like my problem =:0 Maybe citezen will help bridge the gap. I see how it would make the bibliography; the citations along the way leave me with doubts. I really like LaTeX's abilty to create new environments, markup, etc. What do you do for spell checking? FWIW, I have a Dolphin based "shell" (actually the shell features are prett lame at present) for editing LaTeX files. It is one of those things that I would hope to bring with me and make available. Perhaps we can get it parsing TeX error messages, etc. via OSProcess and make something really nice. One feature I really like is that I use a trick I stole from, of all sources, Microsoft in their class wizard from Visual C++. The idea is to "unique" markers for start/stop, and have Smalltalk code that can be evaluated and turned into LaTeX. It can generate images, tables, anything you want, doing any amount of computation along the way. All it asks (at present) is that code be of the form aClass aMessage for ease of parsing, but that of course and wrap anything one wants. There is then an editor command to regenerate all such items in the project. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 3:25 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX On May 16, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Stef,
I knew somebody here had something but forgot the name. Thanks for the reminder; I'll give it a look.
I found a pdf on it which looks helpful. Are you going to tell me that this would allow Pharo to generate a complete bibliography suitable for pasting into a document? What about the citations along the way? That's proably where LaTeX comes in, but I am getting pressured away from it for various documents.
Citezen parses bib files and after you have a visitor to produce what you want.
LaTeX is a mixed bag. It's great for mathematics, the output is BEAUTIFUL, and I find the flat text view of prose helpful. Spell checking is a plus for the competition. However, I find myself getting pushback from peers who want to use document revisions, making the (gulp) word the center of attention.
their problems....
Bill
-----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr ] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 2:11 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX
did you check citezen?
On May 16, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Hello all,
Sorry for the OT post, but some of you have BibTeX interests and even code(!!!), so I thought it would smart to ask whether any of you have Pharo code to read the RIS format?
I am getting sufficient pressure away from LaTeX, that I am looking at Bibus and OpenOffice. I have a lot of data in .bib to try to import into Bibus, which appears to be buggy with respect to to, but there is evidence it correctly understand RIS.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks!
Bil
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On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 05:10:40AM -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
I really like LaTeX's abilty to create new environments, markup, etc. What do you do for spell checking?
/usr/bin/ps2text may be of some help. Run your pdf (or ps) output through ps2text, then spell check the flat text file. It's not as nice as a built in spell checker, but maybe better than none at all. Dave
Dave, ps2text takes pdfs????!!!!!! Thanks, Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of David T. Lewis Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:38 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 05:10:40AM -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
I really like LaTeX's abilty to create new environments, markup, etc. What do you do for spell checking?
/usr/bin/ps2text may be of some help. Run your pdf (or ps) output through ps2text, then spell check the flat text file. It's not as nice as a built in spell checker, but maybe better than none at all. Dave _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Sorry, I meant "ps2ascii". And yes, it does take pdf input as well as postscript. - Dave NAME ps2ascii - Ghostscript translator from PostScript or PDF to ASCII SYNOPSIS ps2ascii [ input.ps [ output.txt ] ] ps2ascii input.pdf [ output.txt ] DESCRIPTION ps2ascii uses gs(1) to extract ASCII text from PostScript(tm) or Adobe Portable Document Format (PDF) files. If no files are speci� fied on the command line, gs reads from standard input; but PDF input must come from an explicitly-named file, not standard input. If no output file is specified, the ASCII text is written to standard output. ps2ascii doesn't look at font encoding, and isn't very good at dealing with kerning, so for PostScript (but not currently PDF), you might consider pstotext (see below). On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:42:23AM -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Dave,
ps2text takes pdfs????!!!!!!
Thanks,
Bill
-----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of David T. Lewis Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:38 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 05:10:40AM -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
I really like LaTeX's abilty to create new environments, markup, etc. What do you do for spell checking?
/usr/bin/ps2text may be of some help. Run your pdf (or ps) output through ps2text, then spell check the flat text file. It's not as nice as a built in spell checker, but maybe better than none at all.
Dave
Dave, That's great to know. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of David T. Lewis Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 3:46 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX Sorry, I meant "ps2ascii". And yes, it does take pdf input as well as postscript. - Dave NAME ps2ascii - Ghostscript translator from PostScript or PDF to ASCII SYNOPSIS ps2ascii [ input.ps [ output.txt ] ] ps2ascii input.pdf [ output.txt ] DESCRIPTION ps2ascii uses gs(1) to extract ASCII text from PostScript(tm) or Adobe Portable Document Format (PDF) files. If no files are speci fied on the command line, gs reads from standard input; but PDF input must come from an explicitly-named file, not standard input. If no output file is specified, the ASCII text is written to standard output. ps2ascii doesn't look at font encoding, and isn't very good at dealing with kerning, so for PostScript (but not currently PDF), you might consider pstotext (see below). On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:42:23AM -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Dave,
ps2text takes pdfs????!!!!!!
Thanks,
Bill
-----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of David T. Lewis Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:38 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 05:10:40AM -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
I really like LaTeX's abilty to create new environments, markup, etc. What do you do for spell checking?
/usr/bin/ps2text may be of some help. Run your pdf (or ps) output through ps2text, then spell check the flat text file. It's not as nice as a built in spell checker, but maybe better than none at all.
Dave
I think aspell knows about TeX, so with the right invocation, you can spell-check your .tex files directly. On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 13:37, David T. Lewis <lewis@mail.msen.com> wrote:
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 05:10:40AM -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
I really like LaTeX's abilty to create new environments, markup, etc. Â What do you do for spell checking?
/usr/bin/ps2text may be of some help. Run your pdf (or ps) output through ps2text, then spell check the flat text file. It's not as nice as a built in spell checker, but maybe better than none at all.
Dave
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Dave, It sure looks like it it's worth a try! They say the windows port is out of date, but at this rate of finding long-standing disasters fixed, I might not care about that much longer. Thanks!!! Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Damien Pollet Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 2:42 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX I think aspell knows about TeX, so with the right invocation, you can spell-check your .tex files directly. On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 13:37, David T. Lewis <lewis@mail.msen.com> wrote:
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 05:10:40AM -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
I really like LaTeX's abilty to create new environments, markup, etc. Â What do you do for spell checking?
/usr/bin/ps2text may be of some help. Run your pdf (or ps) output through ps2text, then spell check the flat text file. It's not as nice as a built in spell checker, but maybe better than none at all.
Dave
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Stef, **DUMB** question. I found citezen on SqueakSource, opened monitcello, created a respository and have access to the code. That much makes sense tome. But it is at this point that I fall apart in understanding MC. What is the correct way to load the code? Pathetically yours<g>, Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 2:11 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX did you check citezen? On May 16, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Hello all,
Sorry for the OT post, but some of you have BibTeX interests and even code(!!!), so I thought it would smart to ask whether any of you have Pharo code to read the RIS format?
I am getting sufficient pressure away from LaTeX, that I am looking at Bibus and OpenOffice. I have a lot of data in .bib to try to import into Bibus, which appears to be buggy with respect to to, but there is evidence it correctly understand RIS.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks!
Bil
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Damien will reply. I think that since he uses seaside canvas. You should use a pier image for now. After with enough pressure I'm sure that he can do a CitezenLoader class :) On May 16, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Stef,
**DUMB** question. I found citezen on SqueakSource, opened monitcello, created a respository and have access to the code. That much makes sense tome. But it is at this point that I fall apart in understanding MC. What is the correct way to load the code?
Pathetically yours<g>,
Bill
-----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr ] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 2:11 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX
did you check citezen?
On May 16, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Hello all,
Sorry for the OT post, but some of you have BibTeX interests and even code(!!!), so I thought it would smart to ask whether any of you have Pharo code to read the RIS format?
I am getting sufficient pressure away from LaTeX, that I am looking at Bibus and OpenOffice. I have a lot of data in .bib to try to import into Bibus, which appears to be buggy with respect to to, but there is evidence it correctly understand RIS.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks!
Bil
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Stef, Ok, so it sounds like it's not dirt-simple. That actually makes me feel a little better. I will egerly await his reply to help me get started. Thanks! Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 3:27 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX Damien will reply. I think that since he uses seaside canvas. You should use a pier image for now. After with enough pressure I'm sure that he can do a CitezenLoader class :) On May 16, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Stef,
**DUMB** question. I found citezen on SqueakSource, opened monitcello, created a respository and have access to the code. That much makes sense tome. But it is at this point that I fall apart in understanding MC. What is the correct way to load the code?
Pathetically yours<g>,
Bill
-----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr ] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 2:11 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX
did you check citezen?
On May 16, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Hello all,
Sorry for the OT post, but some of you have BibTeX interests and even code(!!!), so I thought it would smart to ask whether any of you have Pharo code to read the RIS format?
I am getting sufficient pressure away from LaTeX, that I am looking at Bibus and OpenOffice. I have a lot of data in .bib to try to import into Bibus, which appears to be buggy with respect to to, but there is evidence it correctly understand RIS.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks!
Bil
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On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:26, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Damien will reply. I think that since he uses seaside canvas. You should use a pier image for now. After with enough pressure I'm sure that he can do a CitezenLoader class :)
That could indeed be helpful :) About RIS input, I suppose it's possible but at the moment there is no such parser. Also I suspect that RIS and BibTeX define different data models, so we'd need a common metamodel to parse to. IMHO the easiest for now is to translate RIS to .bib using one of the existing non-smalltalk tools (I can't give names from the top of my head, but google should). As for working with word, I think it's possible to import or copy-paste html, so you'd just need a trivial wrapper around citezen to ensure that it outputs a complete html page.
On May 16, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Stef,
**DUMB** question. Â I found citezen on SqueakSource, opened monitcello, created a respository and have access to the code. Â That much makes sense tome. Â But it is at this point that I fall apart in understanding MC. Â What is the correct way to load the code?
Pathetically yours<g>,
Bill
-----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr ] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 2:11 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX
did you check citezen?
On May 16, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Hello all,
Sorry for the OT post, but some of you have BibTeX interests and even code(!!!), so I thought it would smart to ask whether any of you have Pharo code to read the RIS format?
I am getting sufficient pressure away from LaTeX, that I am looking at Bibus and OpenOffice. Â I have a lot of data in .bib to try to import into Bibus, which appears to be buggy with respect to to, but there is evidence it correctly understand RIS.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks!
Bil
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Damien, Queue head-slap.wav :) I'll dig around. However, I have the other problem, specifically I have a .bib that I want to convert to RIS for benefit of Bibus. On first glance, I don't see that one but will try again. Thanks! Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Damien Pollet Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 5:12 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:26, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Damien will reply. I think that since he uses seaside canvas. You should use a pier image for now. After with enough pressure I'm sure that he can do a CitezenLoader class :)
That could indeed be helpful :) About RIS input, I suppose it's possible but at the moment there is no such parser. Also I suspect that RIS and BibTeX define different data models, so we'd need a common metamodel to parse to. IMHO the easiest for now is to translate RIS to .bib using one of the existing non-smalltalk tools (I can't give names from the top of my head, but google should). As for working with word, I think it's possible to import or copy-paste html, so you'd just need a trivial wrapper around citezen to ensure that it outputs a complete html page.
On May 16, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Stef,
**DUMB** question. Â I found citezen on SqueakSource, opened monitcello, created a respository and have access to the code. Â That much makes sense tome. Â But it is at this point that I fall apart in understanding MC. Â What is the correct way to load the code?
Pathetically yours<g>,
Bill
-----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr ] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 2:11 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX
did you check citezen?
On May 16, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Hello all,
Sorry for the OT post, but some of you have BibTeX interests and even code(!!!), so I thought it would smart to ask whether any of you have Pharo code to read the RIS format?
I am getting sufficient pressure away from LaTeX, that I am looking at Bibus and OpenOffice. Â I have a lot of data in .bib to try to import into Bibus, which appears to be buggy with respect to to, but there is evidence it correctly understand RIS.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks!
Bil
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On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 12:12, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet@gmail.com> wrote:
After with enough pressure I'm sure that he can do a CitezenLoader class :)
That could indeed be helpful :)
Actually there is one already, and it seems to work. See the wiki tab of http://www.squeaksource.com/Citezen.html -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet
Damien, Nice! I can't yet claim that it works, but it sure looks like it's up to good things. Should I have known to look for this? That's not asking you to beat me up; I'm trying to grok the (evolving?) Pharo culture. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Damien Pollet Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 8:48 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 12:12, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet@gmail.com> wrote:
After with enough pressure I'm sure that he can do a CitezenLoader class :)
That could indeed be helpful :)
Actually there is one already, and it seems to work. See the wiki tab of http://www.squeaksource.com/Citezen.html -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
Damien, It was running along fine and then hit a walkback in RioLocalExecutive class>>initialize. Does not like Current initializeDefault (DNU). Any ideas? That looks like missing steps to me, so it might not be something I can "just fix". Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Damien Pollet Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 8:48 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 12:12, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet@gmail.com> wrote:
After with enough pressure I'm sure that he can do a CitezenLoader class :)
That could indeed be helpful :)
Actually there is one already, and it seems to work. See the wiki tab of http://www.squeaksource.com/Citezen.html -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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