On Mar 15, 2012, at 11:20 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote:

Being able to automate is very good, however... <rant>

I am 100% with you... my "perfect system" looks *completely* different to what we have... There are two options: 1) stop fixing bugs and integrating until we have the perfect system for handling it. 2) Accept that it might be better to integrate what people are doing anyway even without yet having the perfect source-code-management/bug tracker/integration. Doing 2 while *of course* alligning things to improve the integration system eventually... but I do not see how we can build the system that I dream about if we don't move already now. And even if it is just for generating small successes that allow us to build on top. It's hard to aquire resources out of nothing, but if you have something to show (as bad as it is) it magically *is* possible! Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de