[Pharo-project] Improving the GUI
Cédrick, There is at least use for halos with browsers: figuring out how they were made. At times, I have resorted to see the types of morphs that were ignoring a customization I was trying to enforce. I would not suppress halos unless we have a tool along the lines of the following: http://www.idb.me.uk/idbsnoop.html Of course, one could compromise by toggling halos, perhaps based on the type of system window. Note that since SystemWindow is quite generic, we would either need to add sub-classes, or perhaps better some state to allow the test to work. Does that make any sense? Bill ========================== cdrick cdrick65 at gmail.com
- do we really need those window controls, coming up with ctrl-left mouse? (rotate etc? halos?)
Yes I always wanted to disable them.
I find there are of no use for browsers... What I'd like instead of bringing halo is: -moving the browser (middle button), -change the size of the browser (bottom right expand) (CTRL-middle button) Cédrick Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
There is at least use for halos with browsers: figuring out how they were made. At times, I have resorted to see the types of morphs that were ignoring a customization I was trying to enforce.
Hence we only keep the debug resize and close ? I don't mind if halos are kept actually. Maybe we could have pluggable allow, some specific toOB... Concerning my request, bringing halo already allows to move windows.To me that would be just great that if combined with ctrl, we could resize them ! What others think ? Also, on the listof suggestion, I'd prefer lose the mouse focus and have a click focus (associated to a tab / shift tab one). Cédrick ps: I don't know why but yours answers often breaks threads and it makes following them difficult.
I would not suppress halos unless we have a tool along the lines of the following:
http://www.idb.me.uk/idbsnoop.html
Of course, one could compromise by toggling halos, perhaps based on the type of system window. Note that since SystemWindow is quite generic, we would either need to add sub-classes, or perhaps better some state to allow the test to work. Does that make any sense?
Bill
========================== cdrick cdrick65 at gmail.com
- do we really need those window controls, coming up with ctrl-left mouse? (rotate etc? halos?)
Yes I always wanted to disable them.
I find there are of no use for browsers...
What I'd like instead of bringing halo is: -moving the browser (middle button), -change the size of the browser (bottom right expand) (CTRL-middle button)
Cédrick
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
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And what about adding a preference to enable halos, which would be turned off by default? Adrian On Jul 23, 2008, at 14:59 , Bill Schwab wrote:
Cédrick,
There is at least use for halos with browsers: figuring out how they were made. At times, I have resorted to see the types of morphs that were ignoring a customization I was trying to enforce.
I would not suppress halos unless we have a tool along the lines of the following:
http://www.idb.me.uk/idbsnoop.html
Of course, one could compromise by toggling halos, perhaps based on the type of system window. Note that since SystemWindow is quite generic, we would either need to add sub-classes, or perhaps better some state to allow the test to work. Does that make any sense?
Bill
========================== cdrick cdrick65 at gmail.com
- do we really need those window controls, coming up with ctrl-left mouse? (rotate etc? halos?)
Yes I always wanted to disable them.
I find there are of no use for browsers...
What I'd like instead of bringing halo is: -moving the browser (middle button), -change the size of the browser (bottom right expand) (CTRL-middle button)
Cédrick
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
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This would be nice to give a try and see how we can live without them. Stef On Jul 23, 2008, at 4:04 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
And what about adding a preference to enable halos, which would be turned off by default? Adrian
On Jul 23, 2008, at 14:59 , Bill Schwab wrote:
Cédrick,
There is at least use for halos with browsers: figuring out how they were made. At times, I have resorted to see the types of morphs that were ignoring a customization I was trying to enforce.
I would not suppress halos unless we have a tool along the lines of the following:
http://www.idb.me.uk/idbsnoop.html
Of course, one could compromise by toggling halos, perhaps based on the type of system window. Note that since SystemWindow is quite generic, we would either need to add sub-classes, or perhaps better some state to allow the test to work. Does that make any sense?
Bill
========================== cdrick cdrick65 at gmail.com
- do we really need those window controls, coming up with ctrl-left mouse? (rotate etc? halos?)
Yes I always wanted to disable them.
I find there are of no use for browsers...
What I'd like instead of bringing halo is: -moving the browser (middle button), -change the size of the browser (bottom right expand) (CTRL- middle button)
Cédrick
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bschwab@anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
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