[Pharo-project] plan for 1.1
Hi guys we were discussing how we can handle 1.1 and the flux of good changes. Here is the proposal: we take two or three weeks to let people try their code in 1.1 beta we integrate fixes that are important or easy then we wait one week then we launch 1.1 rc and 1.2 unstable does this plan look ok for you? The key point is that we want to avoid to have a pile of changes pending because they can rot easily. Stef
On May 26, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
we were discussing how we can handle 1.1 and the flux of good changes. Here is the proposal: we take two or three weeks to let people try their code in 1.1 beta we integrate fixes that are important or easy then we wait one week then we launch 1.1 rc and 1.2 unstable
does this plan look ok for you?
Ok for me. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.
we were discussing how we can handle 1.1 and the flux of good changes. Here is the proposal: we take two or three weeks to let people try their code in 1.1 beta we integrate fixes that are important or easy then we wait one week then we launch 1.1 rc and 1.2 unstable
does this plan look ok for you?
Ok for me.
Ok for me. But we need a Beta that is regularly built for this. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
Stef, My initial reaction to 1.1's approaching release was "where are the callbacks/aliens?" Sig appears to be offering some competition to Alien. If he/we can provide a comprehensive and convenient way to make calls, do callbacks, additionally put calls onto other OS threads, and do all of this on the three major platforms, then it could easily turn out the best option for external interfacing. I am happy to see us take time to get it right. My only concern would be that we not fall into a pattern of leaving out the difficult things that we set out to accomplish with a given release. Since 1.1 is approaching releasable form and FFI/Alien/NB is unclear at present, a release makes sense. Short answer: sure, whatever you say :) Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:20 AM To: Pharo Development Subject: [Pharo-project] plan for 1.1 Hi guys we were discussing how we can handle 1.1 and the flux of good changes. Here is the proposal: we take two or three weeks to let people try their code in 1.1 beta we integrate fixes that are important or easy then we wait one week then we launch 1.1 rc and 1.2 unstable does this plan look ok for you? The key point is that we want to avoid to have a pile of changes pending because they can rot easily. Stef _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
yes this is good point. I would like to have alien or ffi in 1.1. Now I do not know the status of Alien on windows. On May 26, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Stef,
My initial reaction to 1.1's approaching release was "where are the callbacks/aliens?" Sig appears to be offering some competition to Alien. If he/we can provide a comprehensive and convenient way to make calls, do callbacks, additionally put calls onto other OS threads, and do all of this on the three major platforms, then it could easily turn out the best option for external interfacing.
I am happy to see us take time to get it right. My only concern would be that we not fall into a pattern of leaving out the difficult things that we set out to accomplish with a given release. Since 1.1 is approaching releasable form and FFI/Alien/NB is unclear at present, a release makes sense.
Short answer: sure, whatever you say :)
Bill
________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:20 AM To: Pharo Development Subject: [Pharo-project] plan for 1.1
Hi guys
we were discussing how we can handle 1.1 and the flux of good changes. Here is the proposal: we take two or three weeks to let people try their code in 1.1 beta we integrate fixes that are important or easy then we wait one week then we launch 1.1 rc and 1.2 unstable
does this plan look ok for you? The key point is that we want to avoid to have a pile of changes pending because they can rot easily.
Stef _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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Stef, I am more concerned about Alien on Linux, which is not working. Beyond that, I want to learn more about how to make calls using Alien; the more I read, the more I have my doubts about its ease of use. I will gladly eat those words if it's easy to use. Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:04 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] plan for 1.1 yes this is good point. I would like to have alien or ffi in 1.1. Now I do not know the status of Alien on windows. On May 26, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Stef,
My initial reaction to 1.1's approaching release was "where are the callbacks/aliens?" Sig appears to be offering some competition to Alien. If he/we can provide a comprehensive and convenient way to make calls, do callbacks, additionally put calls onto other OS threads, and do all of this on the three major platforms, then it could easily turn out the best option for external interfacing.
I am happy to see us take time to get it right. My only concern would be that we not fall into a pattern of leaving out the difficult things that we set out to accomplish with a given release. Since 1.1 is approaching releasable form and FFI/Alien/NB is unclear at present, a release makes sense.
Short answer: sure, whatever you say :)
Bill
________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:20 AM To: Pharo Development Subject: [Pharo-project] plan for 1.1
Hi guys
we were discussing how we can handle 1.1 and the flux of good changes. Here is the proposal: we take two or three weeks to let people try their code in 1.1 beta we integrate fixes that are important or easy then we wait one week then we launch 1.1 rc and 1.2 unstable
does this plan look ok for you? The key point is that we want to avoid to have a pile of changes pending because they can rot easily.
Stef _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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Where can I read something about Alien? I can give a little hand for the windows part :). On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab@anest.ufl.edu>wrote:
Stef,
I am more concerned about Alien on Linux, which is not working. Beyond that, I want to learn more about how to make calls using Alien; the more I read, the more I have my doubts about its ease of use. I will gladly eat those words if it's easy to use.
Bill
________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [ pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:04 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] plan for 1.1
yes this is good point. I would like to have alien or ffi in 1.1. Now I do not know the status of Alien on windows.
On May 26, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Stef,
My initial reaction to 1.1's approaching release was "where are the callbacks/aliens?" Sig appears to be offering some competition to Alien. If he/we can provide a comprehensive and convenient way to make calls, do callbacks, additionally put calls onto other OS threads, and do all of this on the three major platforms, then it could easily turn out the best option for external interfacing.
I am happy to see us take time to get it right. My only concern would be that we not fall into a pattern of leaving out the difficult things that we set out to accomplish with a given release. Since 1.1 is approaching releasable form and FFI/Alien/NB is unclear at present, a release makes sense.
Short answer: sure, whatever you say :)
Bill
________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [ pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:20 AM To: Pharo Development Subject: [Pharo-project] plan for 1.1
Hi guys
we were discussing how we can handle 1.1 and the flux of good changes. Here is the proposal: we take two or three weeks to let people try their code in 1.1 beta we integrate fixes that are important or easy then we wait one week then we launch 1.1 rc and 1.2 unstable
does this plan look ok for you? The key point is that we want to avoid to have a pile of changes pending because they can rot easily.
Stef _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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I know that luc is using it for the network rewrite he is doing talking direclty to low level socket without using Socket pluging On May 26, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Stef,
I am more concerned about Alien on Linux, which is not working. Beyond that, I want to learn more about how to make calls using Alien; the more I read, the more I have my doubts about its ease of use. I will gladly eat those words if it's easy to use.
Bill
________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:04 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] plan for 1.1
yes this is good point. I would like to have alien or ffi in 1.1. Now I do not know the status of Alien on windows.
On May 26, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
Stef,
My initial reaction to 1.1's approaching release was "where are the callbacks/aliens?" Sig appears to be offering some competition to Alien. If he/we can provide a comprehensive and convenient way to make calls, do callbacks, additionally put calls onto other OS threads, and do all of this on the three major platforms, then it could easily turn out the best option for external interfacing.
I am happy to see us take time to get it right. My only concern would be that we not fall into a pattern of leaving out the difficult things that we set out to accomplish with a given release. Since 1.1 is approaching releasable form and FFI/Alien/NB is unclear at present, a release makes sense.
Short answer: sure, whatever you say :)
Bill
________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse@inria.fr] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:20 AM To: Pharo Development Subject: [Pharo-project] plan for 1.1
Hi guys
we were discussing how we can handle 1.1 and the flux of good changes. Here is the proposal: we take two or three weeks to let people try their code in 1.1 beta we integrate fixes that are important or easy then we wait one week then we launch 1.1 rc and 1.2 unstable
does this plan look ok for you? The key point is that we want to avoid to have a pile of changes pending because they can rot easily.
Stef _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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Alexandre Bergel -
Guillermo Polito -
Marcus Denker -
Schwab,Wilhelm K -
Stéphane Ducasse